Out With the Old, in With the New: Raiders Coach Lane Kiffin Could Cut Warren Sapp

Nemesis · 07-30-2007, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

Yeah, actually I would prefer not to have another Joe Horn type player. Give me a Brian Urlacher type any day (as in a guy who keeps his mouth shut and cares more for the welfare of the team).

We already have that in Simmons. He may not be going to the Hall, but he's a solid player, teammate, and citizen. Maybe not good enough in your eyes, but Payton likes him.

Joe Horn did the most to mentor the WRs, and was as much a part of the community as any other player. His contributions and efforts are well-documented. He was the only one to reach out to Ricky and AB, by visiting them at home.

TheDeuce · 07-30-2007, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Nemesis

We already have that in Simmons. He may not be going to the Hall, but he's a solid player, teammate, and citizen. Maybe not good enough in your eyes, but Payton likes him.

Joe Horn did the most to mentor the WRs, and was as much a part of the community as any other player. His contributions and efforts are well-documented. He was the only one to reach out to Ricky and AB, by visiting them at home.

Good enough in my eyes? What does that mean? Did I say anything about Brian Simmons? I'm confused about what you're getting at here.

And yes Joe did help mentor those guys, but he also f***ed Willie Roaf's wife and attracted a lot of attention over the years with his antics. I'm not saying that I didn't love Joe, because I did, but I think that Payton proved last year that getting high character guys works better than getting a bunch of self-centered players who might be a bit more talented.

saintsrule · 07-30-2007, 02:37 PM

I could careless about their charater. No one is perfect. I just want good players on the team. If I were perfect I could want everyone else to be. I hope the Saints would and could get both of them.

07-30-2007, 05:15 PM	#1
Nemesis VIP~~Drunken Clam Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Quahog Posts: 422	Re: Out With the Old, in With the New: Raiders Coach Lane Kiffin Could Cut Warren Sap Originally Posted by TheDeuce Yeah, actually I would prefer not to have another Joe Horn type player. Give me a Brian Urlacher type any day (as in a guy who keeps his mouth shut and cares more for the welfare of the team). We already have that in Simmons. He may not be going to the Hall, but he's a solid player, teammate, and citizen. Maybe not good enough in your eyes, but Payton likes him. Joe Horn did the most to mentor the WRs, and was as much a part of the community as any other player. His contributions and efforts are well-documented. He was the only one to reach out to Ricky and AB, by visiting them at home.
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07-30-2007, 06:42 PM	#2
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: Out With the Old, in With the New: Raiders Coach Lane Kiffin Could Cut Warren Sap Originally Posted by Nemesis We already have that in Simmons. He may not be going to the Hall, but he's a solid player, teammate, and citizen. Maybe not good enough in your eyes, but Payton likes him. Joe Horn did the most to mentor the WRs, and was as much a part of the community as any other player. His contributions and efforts are well-documented. He was the only one to reach out to Ricky and AB, by visiting them at home. Good enough in my eyes? What does that mean? Did I say anything about Brian Simmons? I'm confused about what you're getting at here. And yes Joe did help mentor those guys, but he also f***ed Willie Roaf's wife and attracted a lot of attention over the years with his antics. I'm not saying that I didn't love Joe, because I did, but I think that Payton proved last year that getting high character guys works better than getting a bunch of self-centered players who might be a bit more talented.
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07-30-2007, 02:37 PM	#3
saintsrule 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 657	Re: Out With the Old, in With the New: Raiders Coach Lane Kiffin Could Cut Warren Sap I could careless about their charater. No one is perfect. I just want good players on the team. If I were perfect I could want everyone else to be. I hope the Saints would and could get both of them.
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