Somebody Please Explain This To Me

lynwood · 08-23-2007, 10:10 PM

only Payton knows

saintsrule · 08-24-2007, 03:11 AM

I assume they will do it more during the regular season.

leilung · 08-24-2007, 07:10 AM

Sitting here and second guessing Payton is like watching Skywalker question Yoda.

A Master he is. Faith, you must have.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-24-2007, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

Sitting here and second guessing Payton is like watching Skywalker question Yoda.

A Master he is. Faith, you must have.

"Faith, have you must." is probably closer to a Yodaism.

SFIAH

lumm0x · 08-24-2007, 10:02 AM

You don't just try something, fail at it and assume the team doesn't have the ability to do it. My guess is that Payton has told the squad he wants to be able to see positive results running out of that set and formation in that situation and we'll keep practicing it and employing it until we run it properly. More so, if opponents see you consistently run certain plays on a particular down and distance the element of surprise is greater when you mix it up in the midst of a game.

Tobias-Reiper · 08-25-2007, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

You don't just try something, fail at it and assume the team doesn't have the ability to do it. My guess is that Payton has told the squad he wants to be able to see positive results running out of that set and formation in that situation and we'll keep practicing it and employing it until we run it properly. More so, if opponents see you consistently run certain plays on a particular down and distance the element of surprise is greater when you mix it up in the midst of a game.

... ahhh! now you must snatch the pebble from my hand, grasshopper..

Budsdrinker · 08-24-2007, 12:33 PM

I agree with the running calls in preseason. I do believe when it counts you will see more creative play calling in the RZ. There will be at least 1 pass attempt in the reg season.

Saintsfan4ever · 08-24-2007, 04:32 PM

I can see it now.. it`s 3rd goal on the Colts 1 yd line with Deuce and Karney in the backfield.. The Colts' DC says "yeah they tried this at KC in preseason, protect the middle! protect the middle!". Karney goes in motion, Brees takes the snap, fakes to Deuce up the middle, Karney knocks a snot bubble in the blitzing saftey, while Brees bootlegs to the corner untouched for 6.

WillMacKenzie · 08-24-2007, 07:37 PM

Actually if you go back and watch the play where Deuce is stuffed on that 4th down at the goal line #44 Karney the FB WAS in the game and DID open a sufficient hole off to the right. Deuce tried to jump for some reason and didn't follow his block. Watch it again.

cadilacin · 08-26-2007, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Dan the Man

This was a problem for me all year last year, and now on our first possession we're doing it again. If we have the best blocking Fullback in the league, THEN WHY DO WE GO INTO A SINGLE-BACK SET EVERYTIME WE GET INTO THE REDZONE?!?! It drives me crazy. It's the main reason we can't score once we're in the redzone. And then we finally put Karney in, block him to the outside and run it up the middle? I just don't understand. Anyone else?

I feel you. I didn't like our redzone playcalling alot at times last year. But I still trust in Payton.

08-23-2007, 10:10 PM	#1
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Re: Somebody Please Explain This To Me only Payton knows

08-24-2007, 03:11 AM	#2
saintsrule 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 657	Re: Somebody Please Explain This To Me I assume they will do it more during the regular season.
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08-24-2007, 07:10 AM	#3
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,430	Re: Somebody Please Explain This To Me Sitting here and second guessing Payton is like watching Skywalker question Yoda. A Master he is. Faith, you must have.

08-24-2007, 10:02 AM	#5
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Somebody Please Explain This To Me You don't just try something, fail at it and assume the team doesn't have the ability to do it. My guess is that Payton has told the squad he wants to be able to see positive results running out of that set and formation in that situation and we'll keep practicing it and employing it until we run it properly. More so, if opponents see you consistently run certain plays on a particular down and distance the element of surprise is greater when you mix it up in the midst of a game.

08-25-2007, 06:46 AM	#6
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Somebody Please Explain This To Me Originally Posted by lumm0x You don't just try something, fail at it and assume the team doesn't have the ability to do it. My guess is that Payton has told the squad he wants to be able to see positive results running out of that set and formation in that situation and we'll keep practicing it and employing it until we run it properly. More so, if opponents see you consistently run certain plays on a particular down and distance the element of surprise is greater when you mix it up in the midst of a game. ... ahhh! now you must snatch the pebble from my hand, grasshopper..

08-24-2007, 01:13 PM	#4
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,786	Re: Somebody Please Explain This To Me Originally Posted by leilung Sitting here and second guessing Payton is like watching Skywalker question Yoda. A Master he is. Faith, you must have. "Faith, have you must." is probably closer to a Yodaism. SFIAH

08-24-2007, 12:33 PM	#7
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Somebody Please Explain This To Me I agree with the running calls in preseason. I do believe when it counts you will see more creative play calling in the RZ. There will be at least 1 pass attempt in the reg season.

08-24-2007, 04:32 PM	#8
Saintsfan4ever 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Moss Point, MS Posts: 612 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Somebody Please Explain This To Me I can see it now.. it`s 3rd goal on the Colts 1 yd line with Deuce and Karney in the backfield.. The Colts' DC says "yeah they tried this at KC in preseason, protect the middle! protect the middle!". Karney goes in motion, Brees takes the snap, fakes to Deuce up the middle, Karney knocks a snot bubble in the blitzing saftey, while Brees bootlegs to the corner untouched for 6.

08-24-2007, 07:37 PM	#9
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Somebody Please Explain This To Me Actually if you go back and watch the play where Deuce is stuffed on that 4th down at the goal line #44 Karney the FB WAS in the game and DID open a sufficient hole off to the right. Deuce tried to jump for some reason and didn't follow his block. Watch it again.

08-26-2007, 08:47 PM	#10
cadilacin "Real Talk" Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 148	Re: Somebody Please Explain This To Me Originally Posted by Dan the Man This was a problem for me all year last year, and now on our first possession we're doing it again. If we have the best blocking Fullback in the league, THEN WHY DO WE GO INTO A SINGLE-BACK SET EVERYTIME WE GET INTO THE REDZONE?!?! It drives me crazy. It's the main reason we can't score once we're in the redzone. And then we finally put Karney in, block him to the outside and run it up the middle? I just don't understand. Anyone else? I feel you. I didn't like our redzone playcalling alot at times last year. But I still trust in Payton.