Final thoughts before kickoff

saintsfan1976 · 09-03-2007, 02:33 PM

Well, we're here.... almost. I've been waiting for this kickoff for what seems like an eternity!! In my opinion, this is the biggest challenge we could face to begin the season and now that it's around the corner what, if any, glaring questions do you feel we have going into the game with Indianapolis??

Offense?
Defense?
Special Teams?
Coaching?
Mental mistakes??

maximkat · 09-03-2007, 02:38 PM

just curious to see what the starting defensive backfield is going to look like.

iceshack149 · 09-03-2007, 02:50 PM

LCB 34 Mike McKenzie 21 Jason Craft 38 Usama Young

SS 41 Roman Harper 20 Jay Bellamy

FS 29 Josh Bullocks 43 Kevin Kaesviharn

RCB 42 Jason David 22 Fred Thomas

New Orleans Saints - Depth Chart

This is how it's listed on the team site.
I hope that Usama becomes good enough to get into the nickel package sometime this season.

kategory 5 · 09-03-2007, 02:59 PM

the front 4 has to get pressure if we can get pressure with the 4, our secondary will be efficient enough to get the job done, as long as we can keep big play FT off the field.

geaux saints

saintsfan1976 · 09-03-2007, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by kategory 5

the front 4 has to get pressure if we can get pressure with the 4, our secondary will be efficient enough to get the job done, as long as we can keep big play FT off the field.

geaux saints

I think secondary is the key!! Manning can make plays if we bing the heat or not. NO BIG PLAYS....

SaintFanInATLHELL · 09-03-2007, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I think secondary is the key!! Manning can make plays if we bing the heat or not. NO BIG PLAYS....

Truthfully after watching Gibbs defense for a year, I think that giving up big plays is part of the risk of the defense. I think that the consistency of big plays is going to be the issue.

Gibbs defense is man to man in the secondary with pressure up front. That means that opposing offenses are going to get opportunities to throw the ball down the field. Now you get a mix of results on such plays:

1) Incompletions
2) Completions
3) Interceptions

The problem last season is that there was way too much of #2 and not enough of the others. Increase the defensed passes and interceptions relative to completions and we'll be better off.

Part of Fred's problem was biting on the short fake then getting burned because he couldn't recover afterwards. Even if the secondary allows for a higher percentage of those shorter completions in tradeoff for preventing the longer ones, then I think we'll be better off.

SFIAH

cajun1977 · 09-03-2007, 05:30 PM

we need turnovers simple as that, the more times we can get a turnover and stop third down plays ,the more we can get our offense the ball.and then we can put up some cushion points

Euphoria · 09-03-2007, 05:55 PM

I am going to wait and post my thoughts on the next final thread.

ssmitty · 09-03-2007, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Truthfully after watching Gibbs defense for a year, I think that giving up big plays is part of the risk of the defense. I think that the consistency of big plays is going to be the issue.

Gibbs defense is man to man in the secondary with pressure up front. That means that opposing offenses are going to get opportunities to throw the ball down the field. Now you get a mix of results on such plays:

1) Incompletions
2) Completions
3) Interceptions

The problem last season is that there was way too much of #2 and not enough of the others. Increase the defensed passes and interceptions relative to completions and we'll be better off.

Part of Fred's problem was biting on the short fake then getting burned because he couldn't recover afterwards. Even if the secondary allows for a higher percentage of those shorter completions in tradeoff for preventing the longer ones, then I think we'll be better off.

SFIAH

you leave off an important part...........
penaltys.........
and you leave off the offense
our offense, doing the same thing....
this killed us with the best defenses
and will continue to do so if we
can't gel and overcome.......
other than that, everythings peachy.............

billyh1026 · 09-03-2007, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I think secondary is the key!! Manning can make plays if we bing the heat or not. NO BIG PLAYS....

McKenzie is gonna be picked on all night. Harrison lines up on the right side 99% of the time. Gibbs better have plans to roll a safety over and get him help on that side. AND, figure out other ways to help him too. If he doesn't they're gonna eat McKenzie alive.

As a disclaimer - I have to tell you that I don't think he's a good corner. Wasn't with GB & isn't here. Is he decent? Yes. Is he really good? No.
I think he could be better if he cut the dreads. They have to weigh a good bit and slow his head snap reactions. I honestly think they're a liability to him. Agree? Disagree?

p.s. I hope Deuce scores 3 or 4 touches. He's one of my fantasy RB's. And, it's a score only league...

09-03-2007, 02:33 PM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Final thoughts before kickoff Well, we're here.... almost. I've been waiting for this kickoff for what seems like an eternity!! In my opinion, this is the biggest challenge we could face to begin the season and now that it's around the corner what, if any, glaring questions do you feel we have going into the game with Indianapolis?? Offense? Defense? Special Teams? Coaching? Mental mistakes??

09-03-2007, 02:50 PM	#3
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Final thoughts before kickoff LCB 34 Mike McKenzie 21 Jason Craft 38 Usama Young SS 41 Roman Harper 20 Jay Bellamy FS 29 Josh Bullocks 43 Kevin Kaesviharn RCB 42 Jason David 22 Fred Thomas New Orleans Saints - Depth Chart This is how it's listed on the team site. I hope that Usama becomes good enough to get into the nickel package sometime this season.
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09-03-2007, 02:59 PM	#4
kategory 5 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4	Re: Final thoughts before kickoff the front 4 has to get pressure if we can get pressure with the 4, our secondary will be efficient enough to get the job done, as long as we can keep big play FT off the field. geaux saints
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09-03-2007, 04:40 PM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Final thoughts before kickoff Originally Posted by kategory 5 the front 4 has to get pressure if we can get pressure with the 4, our secondary will be efficient enough to get the job done, as long as we can keep big play FT off the field. geaux saints I think secondary is the key!! Manning can make plays if we bing the heat or not. NO BIG PLAYS....

09-03-2007, 05:03 PM	#6
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Final thoughts before kickoff Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I think secondary is the key!! Manning can make plays if we bing the heat or not. NO BIG PLAYS.... Truthfully after watching Gibbs defense for a year, I think that giving up big plays is part of the risk of the defense. I think that the consistency of big plays is going to be the issue. Gibbs defense is man to man in the secondary with pressure up front. That means that opposing offenses are going to get opportunities to throw the ball down the field. Now you get a mix of results on such plays: 1) Incompletions 2) Completions 3) Interceptions The problem last season is that there was way too much of #2 and not enough of the others. Increase the defensed passes and interceptions relative to completions and we'll be better off. Part of Fred's problem was biting on the short fake then getting burned because he couldn't recover afterwards. Even if the secondary allows for a higher percentage of those shorter completions in tradeoff for preventing the longer ones, then I think we'll be better off. SFIAH
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09-03-2007, 02:38 PM	#2
maximkat ChocolateMilk Connoisseur Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Live Free or Die Posts: 362	Re: Final thoughts before kickoff just curious to see what the starting defensive backfield is going to look like.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Final thoughts before kickoff I am going to wait and post my thoughts on the next final thread.

09-03-2007, 06:02 PM	#9
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Re: Final thoughts before kickoff Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Truthfully after watching Gibbs defense for a year, I think that giving up big plays is part of the risk of the defense. I think that the consistency of big plays is going to be the issue. Gibbs defense is man to man in the secondary with pressure up front. That means that opposing offenses are going to get opportunities to throw the ball down the field. Now you get a mix of results on such plays: 1) Incompletions 2) Completions 3) Interceptions The problem last season is that there was way too much of #2 and not enough of the others. Increase the defensed passes and interceptions relative to completions and we'll be better off. Part of Fred's problem was biting on the short fake then getting burned because he couldn't recover afterwards. Even if the secondary allows for a higher percentage of those shorter completions in tradeoff for preventing the longer ones, then I think we'll be better off. SFIAH you leave off an important part........... penaltys......... and you leave off the offense our offense, doing the same thing.... this killed us with the best defenses and will continue to do so if we can't gel and overcome....... other than that, everythings peachy.............
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09-03-2007, 06:10 PM	#10
billyh1026 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 213	Re: Final thoughts before kickoff Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I think secondary is the key!! Manning can make plays if we bing the heat or not. NO BIG PLAYS.... McKenzie is gonna be picked on all night. Harrison lines up on the right side 99% of the time. Gibbs better have plans to roll a safety over and get him help on that side. AND, figure out other ways to help him too. If he doesn't they're gonna eat McKenzie alive. As a disclaimer - I have to tell you that I don't think he's a good corner. Wasn't with GB & isn't here. Is he decent? Yes. Is he really good? No. I think he could be better if he cut the dreads. They have to weigh a good bit and slow his head snap reactions. I honestly think they're a liability to him. Agree? Disagree? p.s. I hope Deuce scores 3 or 4 touches. He's one of my fantasy RB's. And, it's a score only league...
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