Final thoughts before kickoff

FatiusJeebs · 09-04-2007, 10:38 AM

The way i see it....

1. Limit turnovers.
2. Pressure Manning.
3. Play clock controled offense. The longer we have the ball...the less they do.

exiled · 09-04-2007, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by FatiusJeebs

The way i see it....

1. Limit turnovers.
2. Pressure Manning.
3. Play clock controled offense. The longer we have the ball...the less they do.

Well, create a few turnovers too.

looking forward to Turs. if any one is in DC or Bal'more and knows of either a saints bar or one where other Saints fans watch - let me know.

WhoDat205 · 09-04-2007, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Actually 4 TE set. Miller is going to be out with a bad back.

SFIAH

Great...we're screwed now.

In all seriousness, I think the main key to victory lies squarely on the shoulders of Coach Payton. He needs to rekindle the game-planning magic of last season and get the team motivated like they were on the big stage last year (see the 1st ATL game, the Dallas game). He and Gibbs have to be near perfect because if you can slow down the Colts' offensive machine even the slightest bit, you can beat them with such a great offense.

I also think the Saints need to make points out of special teams play. Whether it be a kick return or a blocked FG, they need to get a lot of momentum early and then sustain the attack with clock eating drives, heavy on the Deuce (it takes 2 years to fully recover from ACL surgery).

Finally, they team needs to straight-up punch the colts in the mouth from the opening kick-off to the final wistle and on both sides of the ball. If you look back at the games when the Pats owned the Colts, that was how it was done. Brutal, unrelenting and senseless violence focused 100% on Archie's Boy. If you really lay some lumber on #18, he folds like a cheap tent and the game is yours. So I say play bump and run man coverage on the wideouts and release the hounds...if you get beat deep a few times, so what, just get beat quick and get the O back on the field.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 09-04-2007, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by ssmitty

you leave off an important part...........
penaltys.........

What about them? Last year the team was in the top 5 in the league for both least penalties and penalty-yardarge.

and you leave off the offense
our offense, doing the same thing....

Doing the same thing? Most yards per game? Top 5 in scoring?

I'd be quite happy if the offense were doing the same thing!

this killed us with the best defenses
and will continue to do so if we
can't gel and overcome.......
other than that, everythings peachy.............

Thanks for making my point. Everything is in fact peachy. Every offense in the NFL has problems with top 5 defenses, including the Saints and the Colts.

The Colts do not have the best defense. The Saints defense is better than the Colts defense.

Thursday will not be a blowout in either direction. But overall the Saints have a comparable offense and a better defense than the Colts. That should translate to a win.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL · 09-04-2007, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

Great...we're screwed now.

My mistake. It's Campbell who's out, not Miller.

In all seriousness, I think the main key to victory lies squarely on the shoulders of Coach Payton. He needs to rekindle the game-planning magic of last season and get the team motivated like they were on the big stage] last year (see the 1st ATL game, the Dallas game). He and Gibbs have to be near perfect because if you can slow down the Colts' offensive machine even the slightest bit, you can beat them with such a great offense.

Agreed.

I also think the Saints need to make points out of special teams play. Whether it be a kick return or a blocked FG, they need to get a lot of momentum early and then sustain the attack with clock eating drives, heavy on the Deuce (it takes 2 years to fully recover from ACL surgery).

Agree here too. We should pound the rock.

Finally, they team needs to straight-up punch the colts in the mouth from the opening kick-off to the final wistle and on both sides of the ball. If you look back at the games when the Pats owned the Colts, that was how it was done. Brutal, unrelenting and senseless violence focused 100% on Archie's Boy. If you really lay some lumber on #18, he folds like a cheap tent and the game is yours. So I say play bump and run man coverage on the wideouts and release the hounds...if you get beat deep a few times, so what, just get beat quick and get the O back on the field.

Perfect gameplan. Also be prepared to accept getting burned a time or two. But with the Colts if you can get them down to 50/50 on scoring drives, with their paper thin defense, it should be enough.

SFIAH

WhoDat205 · 09-04-2007, 01:10 PM

SI.com - Writers - Monday Morning QB (cont.) - Monday September 3, 2007 2:02PM

Quote of the Week VII
"I figured it would possibly be us and New England or us and the Saints, because they want to put two entertaining teams on TV. I've played in this opener before a few years ago, when it was up in New England and a rematch of the AFC Conference Championship. Once the schedule comes out, you look at it and you realize how tough a schedule we have playing the Saints. You're always going to have to play the AFC division winners, like San Diego, Baltimore and New England. It's a tough schedule, and it doesn't get any tougher starting against the Saints.''

-- Peyton Manning, on Sunday, talking about the season opener Thursday night in Indy.

Peter King wrote a great MMQ this week. You guys should check it out for the section where a on-the-bubble Olineman for the Skins talks about getting cut. Really moving stuff.

cadilacin · 09-04-2007, 02:45 PM

The one advantage that we have on the majority of our opponents this season is "offensive continuity". That alone should help us compete and maybe even beat the Colts on opening day (I think we'll win). And that alone should allow us to beat most of the rest of the schedule. I think we'll win 10 games, and if we don't let a lesser team beat us, we could win 11.

I just can't wait! 2 more days.

Let's just enjoy the fact that our team can REALLY compete with everybody in this league. I've been extremely happy this off-season because of that.

You boys Enjoy!!

who dat!

NOLAmite · 09-04-2007, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

I think that the Saints can win if and only if they score more points than the colts.

The "if we can score points than the Colts by the end of the fourth quarter, we have a good chance of winning the game" gameplan... I like the way you're thinking whodat!!!

BooBirdSaint · 09-07-2007, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by BooBirdSaint

As a Saints fan here is what I see of the Colts...
One of the most potent offensive air attacks in the NFL (ranked in the top ten or higher for like the last 10 years). Early season beasts (10-0 in 06 & 13-0 in 05). Oh and defending Super Bowl Champs on their home turf...
I would like a win but lets face it No Way Baby! Our offense last year was great but against AFC team... Mmm not so good. I just hope we come thru healthy. The prize for us this year is a defense of the NFC South Crown and a trip to the post season. Forget trying to win the SB in September or send a message!!! Bla bla bla.

Oh that was 9-0 in 06. Just wanted to correct that error. I wouldn't want to submerge the optimism in falsehoods.

09-04-2007, 10:38 AM	#21
FatiusJeebs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 973	Re: Final thoughts before kickoff The way i see it.... 1. Limit turnovers. 2. Pressure Manning. 3. Play clock controled offense. The longer we have the ball...the less they do.
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09-04-2007, 10:57 AM	#22
exiled Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: on the road - now based in Austin, TX Posts: 482	Re: Final thoughts before kickoff Originally Posted by FatiusJeebs The way i see it.... 1. Limit turnovers. 2. Pressure Manning. 3. Play clock controled offense. The longer we have the ball...the less they do. Well, create a few turnovers too. looking forward to Turs. if any one is in DC or Bal'more and knows of either a saints bar or one where other Saints fans watch - let me know.

09-04-2007, 11:19 AM	#23
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Final thoughts before kickoff Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Actually 4 TE set. Miller is going to be out with a bad back. SFIAH Great...we're screwed now. In all seriousness, I think the main key to victory lies squarely on the shoulders of Coach Payton. He needs to rekindle the game-planning magic of last season and get the team motivated like they were on the big stage last year (see the 1st ATL game, the Dallas game). He and Gibbs have to be near perfect because if you can slow down the Colts' offensive machine even the slightest bit, you can beat them with such a great offense. I also think the Saints need to make points out of special teams play. Whether it be a kick return or a blocked FG, they need to get a lot of momentum early and then sustain the attack with clock eating drives, heavy on the Deuce (it takes 2 years to fully recover from ACL surgery). Finally, they team needs to straight-up punch the colts in the mouth from the opening kick-off to the final wistle and on both sides of the ball. If you look back at the games when the Pats owned the Colts, that was how it was done. Brutal, unrelenting and senseless violence focused 100% on Archie's Boy. If you really lay some lumber on #18, he folds like a cheap tent and the game is yours. So I say play bump and run man coverage on the wideouts and release the hounds...if you get beat deep a few times, so what, just get beat quick and get the O back on the field.
	"defence's personal to allwats double team or watch is over, that one reason why the saints or not any good." - Vador101

09-04-2007, 11:58 AM	#24
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Final thoughts before kickoff Originally Posted by ssmitty you leave off an important part........... penaltys......... What about them? Last year the team was in the top 5 in the league for both least penalties and penalty-yardarge. and you leave off the offense our offense, doing the same thing.... Doing the same thing? Most yards per game? Top 5 in scoring? I'd be quite happy if the offense were doing the same thing! this killed us with the best defenses and will continue to do so if we can't gel and overcome....... other than that, everythings peachy............. Thanks for making my point. Everything is in fact peachy. Every offense in the NFL has problems with top 5 defenses, including the Saints and the Colts. The Colts do not have the best defense. The Saints defense is better than the Colts defense. Thursday will not be a blowout in either direction. But overall the Saints have a comparable offense and a better defense than the Colts. That should translate to a win. SFIAH
	Super Bowl Championships: New Orleans Saints:1, Carolina:0, Atlanta Chokers: STILL ZERO Only Atlanta choked in an unchokable situation... Life is definitely good.

09-04-2007, 12:02 PM	#25
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Final thoughts before kickoff Originally Posted by WhoDat205 Great...we're screwed now. My mistake. It's Campbell who's out, not Miller. In all seriousness, I think the main key to victory lies squarely on the shoulders of Coach Payton. He needs to rekindle the game-planning magic of last season and get the team motivated like they were on the big stage] last year (see the 1st ATL game, the Dallas game). He and Gibbs have to be near perfect because if you can slow down the Colts' offensive machine even the slightest bit, you can beat them with such a great offense. Agreed. I also think the Saints need to make points out of special teams play. Whether it be a kick return or a blocked FG, they need to get a lot of momentum early and then sustain the attack with clock eating drives, heavy on the Deuce (it takes 2 years to fully recover from ACL surgery). Agree here too. We should pound the rock. Finally, they team needs to straight-up punch the colts in the mouth from the opening kick-off to the final wistle and on both sides of the ball. If you look back at the games when the Pats owned the Colts, that was how it was done. Brutal, unrelenting and senseless violence focused 100% on Archie's Boy. If you really lay some lumber on #18, he folds like a cheap tent and the game is yours. So I say play bump and run man coverage on the wideouts and release the hounds...if you get beat deep a few times, so what, just get beat quick and get the O back on the field. Perfect gameplan. Also be prepared to accept getting burned a time or two. But with the Colts if you can get them down to 50/50 on scoring drives, with their paper thin defense, it should be enough. SFIAH

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09-04-2007, 01:10 PM	#26
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Final thoughts before kickoff SI.com - Writers - Monday Morning QB (cont.) - Monday September 3, 2007 2:02PM *Quote of the Week VII* "I figured it would possibly be us and New England or us and the Saints, because they want to put two entertaining teams on TV. I've played in this opener before a few years ago, when it was up in New England and a rematch of the AFC Conference Championship. Once the schedule comes out, you look at it and you realize how tough a schedule we have playing the Saints. You're always going to have to play the AFC division winners, like San Diego, Baltimore and New England. It's a tough schedule, and it doesn't get any tougher starting against the Saints.'' -- Peyton Manning, on Sunday, talking about the season opener Thursday night in Indy. Peter King wrote a great MMQ this week. You guys should check it out for the section where a on-the-bubble Olineman for the Skins talks about getting cut. Really moving stuff.
	"defence's personal to allwats double team or watch is over, that one reason why the saints or not any good." - Vador101

09-04-2007, 02:45 PM	#27
cadilacin "Real Talk" Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 148	Re: Final thoughts before kickoff The one advantage that we have on the majority of our opponents this season is "offensive continuity". That alone should help us compete and maybe even beat the Colts on opening day (I think we'll win). And that alone should allow us to beat most of the rest of the schedule. I think we'll win 10 games, and if we don't let a lesser team beat us, we could win 11. I just can't wait! 2 more days. Let's just enjoy the fact that our team can REALLY compete with everybody in this league. I've been extremely happy this off-season because of that. You boys Enjoy!! who dat!
	The best conerback tandem in the league reside in the N.O.

09-04-2007, 03:39 PM	#28
NOLAmite Registered Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 70	Re: Final thoughts before kickoff Originally Posted by WhoDat205 I think that the Saints can win if and only if they score more points than the colts. The "if we can score points than the Colts by the end of the fourth quarter, we have a good chance of winning the game" gameplan... I like the way you're thinking whodat!!!
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09-07-2007, 08:17 AM	#29
BooBirdSaint 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 273	Re: Final thoughts before kickoff Originally Posted by BooBirdSaint As a Saints fan here is what I see of the Colts... One of the most potent offensive air attacks in the NFL (ranked in the top ten or higher for like the last 10 years). Early season beasts (10-0 in 06 & 13-0 in 05). Oh and defending Super Bowl Champs on their home turf... I would like a win but lets face it No Way Baby! Our offense last year was great but against AFC team... Mmm not so good. I just hope we come thru healthy. The prize for us this year is a defense of the NFC South Crown and a trip to the post season. Forget trying to win the SB in September or send a message!!! Bla bla bla. Oh that was 9-0 in 06. Just wanted to correct that error. I wouldn't want to submerge the optimism in falsehoods.