Everybody Is Right!!

cadilacin · 09-17-2007, 09:31 PM

I've watched all you die hard saints fans argue point after point in this forum. The more I read, the more I realize one thing...Everyone of you are RIGHT.

Yes WillieMac, we need to run deuce.

Yes WhoDat, The WRs lack leadership, and Simoneau can't play.

Yes Euphoria, THE D SUCKS

Yes Hagan, It all starts with the OL and DL

Yes Cheramie, After 1 1/2 that was the performance we got.

Papz...Yes...The Forums are getting very negative and gloomy.

Saintsfan1976 (good question)...What the hell HAS happened to the offense?

Longtimefan...I'm also STUNNED

Frenzy Fan...Drew Brees has sucked the first two games

Yes, Oldies DJ...The receivers need to play with a velcro football and gloves.

Yes...BlackSaint...I also have to drink Greygoose to get through the games!!

AND YES...EVERYBODY...JASON DAVID CAN'T COVER!!

We have debated point for point over the last 2 weeks about the reasons why the team that most of us (excluding Euphoria

) had Super high hopes for going into the season, has not shown up.

AAll of the things thats been pointed out by most of the folks on this MIGHTY forum are correct. It's almost pointless to try and dis-prove the theory of another fellow fan. Everybody whatches the same game, but we all focus on different things.

The fact that we have so many different theories about whats wrong tells me one thing....THERE ARE ALOT OF THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED WITH OUR BELOVED SAINTS.

So keep the posts coming boys....But also....KEEP THE FAITH!

We will bounce back. We have alot of talent, and alot of character on this team. We just wainting on them to put it together.

Thank god for the HOME OPENER.

Those of you who are fortunate enough to get to the dome next week...Tear The Roof Off the Dome!!!! and energize our boys. And if they disappoint you...come back to the BLACKANDGOLD and vent with your fellow fans as much as you want.

WE WILL WIN (sooner or later) WHO DAT!!

Get atcha boy...

QBREES9 · 09-17-2007, 11:34 PM

Wow !!!!!!!!!!!!

Euphoria · 09-17-2007, 11:59 PM

Is that we will win this week or we will win at least a game this year?

Saintsfan4ever · 09-18-2007, 12:47 AM

true cadi, something is not seriously wrong, someTHINGS are seriously wrong.

People we haven`t just lost 2 games, we`ve been DESTROYED 2 games, totally DOMINATED 2 games. I`m concerned, very concerned.

FrenzyFan · 09-18-2007, 08:57 AM

Nice post, Cad. Very sobering too.

There are a couple of things I disagree with, however. The defense does NOT suck. They are not great by any means, but they are not awful either. They've given up big plays when they're kept on the field a lot. They're good enough to keep us in it when they're fresh. When they're forced to rush right back on the field after our offense continually fails us, they get tore up. That happens to most defenses and considering our defense is a very pedestrian middle-of-the-road unit, they get tore up more than many.
The coaches know that about the D, but they planned this group as a TEAM. The offense was supposed to actually show up, sustain long drives, put points on the board, capture the lead, etc. With that expectation, you don't need the greatest defense. Since the offense is AWFUL right now, our very average defense is catching all the heat.

WhoDat205 · 09-18-2007, 09:14 AM

I saw Keyshawn and Tuna on SC last night talking about the Saints. Keyshawn made three points:
1. Deuce needs to get the ball 25-30x a game. (that's from a WR)
2. The O Line has to protect the passer.
3. The receivers are young and in need of leadership, and Patten may not enough of a contributor to do that.

Parcells said: The back seven on D have to improve for anything to get better.

I'm paraphrasing of course, but that all sounds familiar.

cadilacin · 09-18-2007, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by FrenzyFan

Nice post, Cad. Very sobering too.

There are a couple of things I disagree with, however. The defense does NOT suck.

I truly understand this point. The only reason that I agreed they "suck" is not about the points the giving up...it's how there're giving them up....BIG PLAYS.

But this is why I say "Everybody is right". Its all perception. So many things are wrong. Different people see different things.

saintsfan1976 · 09-18-2007, 02:41 PM

So what the hell, exactly, has happened to our offense?? Maybe we should wait until NEXT Tuesday to discuss that one.

hagan714 · 09-18-2007, 08:02 PM

Nothing has changed from week 1. so why put the effort into writing anything about week 2 in depth?

LongTimeFan · 09-18-2007, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by cadillacin

I've watched all you die hard saints fans argue point after point in this forum. The more I read, the more I realize one thing...Everyone of you are RIGHT.

Yes WillieMac, we need to run deuce.

Yes WhoDat, The WRs lack leadership, and Simoneau can't play.

Yes Euphoria, THE D SUCKS

Yes Hagan, It all starts with the OL and DL

Yes Cheramie, After 1 1/2 that was the performance we got.

Papz...Yes...The Forums are getting very negative and gloomy.

Saintsfan1976 (good question)...What the hell HAS happened to the offense?

Longtimefan...I'm also STUNNED

Frenzy Fan...Drew Brees has sucked the first two games

Yes, Oldies DJ...The receivers need to play with a Velcro football and gloves.

Yes...Blackplanet...I also have to drink Greygoose to get through the games!!

AND YES...EVERYBODY...JASON DAVID CAN'T COVER!!

We have debated point for point over the last 2 weeks about the reasons why the team that most of us (excluding Euphoria ) had Super high hopes for going into the season, has not shown up.

All of the things that's been pointed out by most of the folks on this MIGHTY forum are correct. It's almost pointless to try and dis-prove the theory of another fellow fan. Everybody watches the same game, but we all focus on different things.

The fact that we have so many different theories about whats wrong tells me one thing....THERE ARE ALOT OF THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED WITH OUR BELOVED SAINTS.

So keep the posts coming boys....But also....KEEP THE FAITH!

We will bounce back. We have a lot of talent, and a lot of character on this team. We just waiting on them to put it together.

Thank god for the HOME OPENER.

Those of you who are fortunate enough to get to the dome next week...Tear The Roof Off the Dome!!!! and energize our boys. And if they disappoint you...come back to the BLACKANDGOLD and vent with your fellow fans as much as you want.

WE WILL WIN (sooner or later) WHO DAT!!

Get atcha boy...

Great job doing your homework, also great quotes

It's fitting that my name is on your list due to my signature.

09-17-2007, 09:31 PM	#1
cadilacin "Real Talk" Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 148	Everybody Is Right!! I've watched all you die hard saints fans argue point after point in this forum. The more I read, the more I realize one thing...Everyone of you are RIGHT. Yes WillieMac, we need to run deuce. Yes WhoDat, The WRs lack leadership, and Simoneau can't play. Yes Euphoria, THE D SUCKS Yes Hagan, It all starts with the OL and DL Yes Cheramie, After 1 1/2 that was the performance we got. Papz...Yes...The Forums are getting very negative and gloomy. Saintsfan1976 (good question)...What the hell HAS happened to the offense? Longtimefan...I'm also STUNNED Frenzy Fan...Drew Brees has sucked the first two games Yes, Oldies DJ...The receivers need to play with a velcro football and gloves. Yes...BlackSaint...I also have to drink Greygoose to get through the games!! AND YES...EVERYBODY...JASON DAVID CAN'T COVER!! We have debated point for point over the last 2 weeks about the reasons why the team that most of us (excluding Euphoria ) had Super high hopes for going into the season, has not shown up. AAll of the things thats been pointed out by most of the folks on this MIGHTY forum are correct. It's almost pointless to try and dis-prove the theory of another fellow fan. Everybody whatches the same game, but we all focus on different things. The fact that we have so many different theories about whats wrong tells me one thing....THERE ARE ALOT OF THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED WITH OUR BELOVED SAINTS. So keep the posts coming boys....But also....KEEP THE FAITH! We will bounce back. We have alot of talent, and alot of character on this team. We just wainting on them to put it together. Thank god for the HOME OPENER. Those of you who are fortunate enough to get to the dome next week...Tear The Roof Off the Dome!!!! and energize our boys. And if they disappoint you...come back to the BLACKANDGOLD and vent with your fellow fans as much as you want. WE WILL WIN (sooner or later) WHO DAT!! Get atcha boy...
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cadilacin "Real Talk" Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 148	Re: Everybody Is Right!! Originally Posted by FrenzyFan Nice post, Cad. Very sobering too. There are a couple of things I disagree with, however. The defense does NOT suck. I truly understand this point. The only reason that I agreed they "suck" is not about the points the giving up...it's how there're giving them up....BIG PLAYS. But this is why I say "Everybody is right". Its all perception. So many things are wrong. Different people see different things.

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LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Re: Everybody Is Right!! Originally Posted by cadillacin I've watched all you die hard saints fans argue point after point in this forum. The more I read, the more I realize one thing...Everyone of you are RIGHT. Yes WillieMac, we need to run deuce. Yes WhoDat, The WRs lack leadership, and Simoneau can't play. Yes Euphoria, THE D SUCKS Yes Hagan, It all starts with the OL and DL Yes Cheramie, After 1 1/2 that was the performance we got. Papz...Yes...The Forums are getting very negative and gloomy. Saintsfan1976 (good question)...What the hell HAS happened to the offense? Longtimefan...I'm also STUNNED Frenzy Fan...Drew Brees has sucked the first two games Yes, Oldies DJ...The receivers need to play with a Velcro football and gloves. Yes...Blackplanet...I also have to drink Greygoose to get through the games!! AND YES...EVERYBODY...JASON DAVID CAN'T COVER!! We have debated point for point over the last 2 weeks about the reasons why the team that most of us (excluding Euphoria ) had Super high hopes for going into the season, has not shown up. All of the things that's been pointed out by most of the folks on this MIGHTY forum are correct. It's almost pointless to try and dis-prove the theory of another fellow fan. Everybody watches the same game, but we all focus on different things. The fact that we have so many different theories about whats wrong tells me one thing....THERE ARE ALOT OF THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED WITH OUR BELOVED SAINTS. So keep the posts coming boys....But also....KEEP THE FAITH! We will bounce back. We have a lot of talent, and a lot of character on this team. We just waiting on them to put it together. Thank god for the HOME OPENER. Those of you who are fortunate enough to get to the dome next week...Tear The Roof Off the Dome!!!! and energize our boys. And if they disappoint you...come back to the BLACKANDGOLD and vent with your fellow fans as much as you want. WE WILL WIN (sooner or later) WHO DAT!! Get atcha boy... Great job doing your homework, also great quotes It's fitting that my name is on your list due to my signature.