A Simple Bush Question

blacksaint · 09-26-2007, 05:35 PM

With three performances in the books. Do you think Reggie Bush is ready to take over the reigns as the premier back of the New Orleans Saints? I heard from a lot of so-called experts and damn near all of them think he's not even close. Well, I think if he runs north to south instead of east to west he's going to be fine. So I just want to know what you guys think.

ScottyRo · 09-26-2007, 05:45 PM

Reggie has not given me any reason to believe that he cannot carry the load of a featured back. He may not be the type to do 20+ carries right up the middle, but I can see him with 25 to 35 touches a game and being fine.

What I'd really like to see in short yardage situations is Karney in the backfield with a TE as a lead blocker with Reggie lined up as WR (or not even on the field).

DeadmaN · 09-26-2007, 06:14 PM

While I do think Reggie is a grate athlete I don't him stepping up and playing to his full potential in this position

Reggie is a very elusive runner and when he does brake loose he’d going to burn people every time but that is the exact problem, Reggie will not be able to run effectively simply because the “O” can put up a block for him
so if he can't make it into the secondary where his running style can be affective then what is the point

This is what I said in another post similar to this one…

Originally Posted by DeadmaN

Yeah I totally agree…

look I’m a huge fan of Reggie, I love to watch him play and I know I going to get flak about this post but I'm calling it like I see it because…

…you can dress that hag up in makeup and a new dress but at the end of the day all you are left with is a hag

I’m willing to bet that from a QB’s standpoint that has to put you in an uneasy spot just being on the field let alone passing the ball. Then on top of that he is not being given time in the pocket like he was last season due to the lack of effective blocks.

And now I they are saying Duce has torn ACL (normally career ending) and what really concerns me is that I don’t think Reggie is up to the task of being a success at the starting RB position considering this offensive line can’t block to save there lives, and in no way am I saying he is not good, I’m simply saying that he is no Duce nor is he an up the gut runner without proper blocking.

Personally I would love to see him line up in the slot that would make 2 backs that should be able to make catches coming out of the back field cause lets face it outside of Colston no one else seams to be able to hold on to the ball

Let’s face facts Reggie does not do as well with the ball in his hands until he is in the secondary. I mean, we all saw how explosive he can be once he is there…
So, my question is why not put him in the very position that would get him there (the secondary) right from the start of the play?
Not to mention with his speed and moves I bet he would light the field on fire I mean come on he is faster then the majority of the CB’s in the league

Then let Pitman and Thomas work the ball from the back field under the guidance of Duce and Stecker

I bet that they would see a huge improvement

I agree with what ScottyRo said about someone with some power in the back field
Simply because with no blocking capabilities from our “O” line then you need a really physical ball carrier and we had that in duce but unfortunately he can’t help us in that department now

look I’m a huge fan of Reggie, I love to watch him play and I know I going to get flak about this post but I'm calling it like I see it because…

…you can dress that hag up in makeup and a new dress but at the end of the day all you are left with is a hag

Euphoria · 09-26-2007, 09:05 PM

Reggie isn't a featured back... will never be a feature back! Yeah I said it. He's not built for it. He can't take the pounding, he's more of the lil red sports car not a full-size pick up truck you drive to work everyday.

frankeefrank · 09-27-2007, 01:56 AM

first off, Euph you're wrong.
Reggie will be fine as a "feature back" is they trust him and give him the ball.
Ask the Giants if Reggie can be a every down back.

Hell, what's with all this 25 carries a game talk anyway... It's not like we ran the ball that much w/ or w/o Deuce.

BTW, Didn't we score 14 pts. with Deuce on the bench?
It's time to move forward and trust what we have...
Let's see Reggie run and see how we do before we guess.

If that doesn't work, Isn't Ricky Williams up for re-instatement?

iceshack149 · 09-27-2007, 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Reggie isn't a featured back... will never be a feature back! Yeah I said it. He's not built for it. He can't take the pounding, he's more of the lil red sports car not a full-size pick up truck you drive to work everyday.

That's bunk, Euphoria. You don't know that and neither do I. Barry Sanders played behind an offensive line worse than this and was one of the most productive RB's in the history of the game. Bush may be the next Sanders, we haven't seen anything to prove otherwise.

saintsrule · 09-27-2007, 03:20 AM

He was the 2nd pick in the draft for a reason. He just did not get the chance, because Deuce was here. Now he will show what he can do. But he needs the rest of the team to play well also. And after the bye week, we have to believe they will.

LordOfEntropy · 09-27-2007, 07:58 AM

I'll believe that.... when he stops running backwards.

I'll believe that.... when he delivers a hit (instead of running away from one).

As of right now, he hasn't show me squat. I don't have near enough to believe he'll ever be on the caliber of Sanders.

Show me otherwise Reggie. I'm waiting.

saintfan · 09-27-2007, 08:09 AM

Reggie will be fine. The truth is he's still got a lot to learn, but I have complete faith that he will. I wish he had a line half as good as the one Emmit ran all the way to Canton behind...but he doesn't. You know, Deuce wasn't exactly settin' the world on fire either...

bobcat4u2 · 09-27-2007, 08:22 AM

he would be as capable as barry sanders was with some blocking up front. without it ,he'll join duece in re-hab

09-26-2007, 05:35 PM	#1
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	A Simple Bush Question With three performances in the books. Do you think Reggie Bush is ready to take over the reigns as the premier back of the New Orleans Saints? I heard from a lot of so-called experts and damn near all of them think he's not even close. Well, I think if he runs north to south instead of east to west he's going to be fine. So I just want to know what you guys think.

09-26-2007, 05:45 PM	#2
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Re: A Simple Bush Question Reggie has not given me any reason to believe that he cannot carry the load of a featured back. He may not be the type to do 20+ carries right up the middle, but I can see him with 25 to 35 touches a game and being fine. What I'd really like to see in short yardage situations is Karney in the backfield with a TE as a lead blocker with Reggie lined up as WR (or not even on the field).

09-26-2007, 06:14 PM	#3
DeadmaN Saints Junky Join Date: May 2007 Location: Metairie Originally now a Houston transplant Posts: 672	Re: A Simple Bush Question While I do think Reggie is a grate athlete I don't him stepping up and playing to his full potential in this position Reggie is a very elusive runner and when he does brake loose he’d going to burn people every time but that is the exact problem, Reggie will not be able to run effectively simply because the “O” can put up a block for him so if he can't make it into the secondary where his running style can be affective then what is the point This is what I said in another post similar to this one… Originally Posted by DeadmaN Yeah I totally agree… look I’m a huge fan of Reggie, I love to watch him play and I know I going to get flak about this post but I'm calling it like I see it because… …you can dress that hag up in makeup and a new dress but at the end of the day all you are left with is a hag I’m willing to bet that from a QB’s standpoint that has to put you in an uneasy spot just being on the field let alone passing the ball. Then on top of that he is not being given time in the pocket like he was last season due to the lack of effective blocks. And now I they are saying Duce has torn ACL (normally career ending) and what really concerns me is that I don’t think Reggie is up to the task of being a success at the starting RB position considering this offensive line can’t block to save there lives, and in no way am I saying he is not good, I’m simply saying that he is no Duce nor is he an up the gut runner without proper blocking. Personally I would love to see him line up in the slot that would make 2 backs that should be able to make catches coming out of the back field cause lets face it outside of Colston no one else seams to be able to hold on to the ball Let’s face facts Reggie does not do as well with the ball in his hands until he is in the secondary. I mean, we all saw how explosive he can be once he is there… So, my question is why not put him in the very position that would get him there (the secondary) right from the start of the play? Not to mention with his speed and moves I bet he would light the field on fire I mean come on he is faster then the majority of the CB’s in the league Then let Pitman and Thomas work the ball from the back field under the guidance of Duce and Stecker I bet that they would see a huge improvement I agree with what ScottyRo said about someone with some power in the back field Simply because with no blocking capabilities from our “O” line then you need a really physical ball carrier and we had that in duce but unfortunately he can’t help us in that department now look I’m a huge fan of Reggie, I love to watch him play and I know I going to get flak about this post but I'm calling it like I see it because… …you can dress that hag up in makeup and a new dress but at the end of the day all you are left with is a hag
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09-26-2007, 09:05 PM	#4
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: A Simple Bush Question Reggie isn't a featured back... will never be a feature back! Yeah I said it. He's not built for it. He can't take the pounding, he's more of the lil red sports car not a full-size pick up truck you drive to work everyday.

09-27-2007, 01:56 AM	#5
frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	Re: A Simple Bush Question first off, Euph you're wrong. Reggie will be fine as a "feature back" is they trust him and give him the ball. Ask the Giants if Reggie can be a every down back. Hell, what's with all this 25 carries a game talk anyway... It's not like we ran the ball that much w/ or w/o Deuce. BTW, Didn't we score 14 pts. with Deuce on the bench? It's time to move forward and trust what we have... Let's see Reggie run and see how we do before we guess. If that doesn't work, Isn't Ricky Williams up for re-instatement?
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09-27-2007, 03:17 AM	#6
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	Re: A Simple Bush Question Originally Posted by Euphoria Reggie isn't a featured back... will never be a feature back! Yeah I said it. He's not built for it. He can't take the pounding, he's more of the lil red sports car not a full-size pick up truck you drive to work everyday. That's bunk, Euphoria. You don't know that and neither do I. Barry Sanders played behind an offensive line worse than this and was one of the most productive RB's in the history of the game. Bush may be the next Sanders, we haven't seen anything to prove otherwise.

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saintsrule 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 657	Re: A Simple Bush Question He was the 2nd pick in the draft for a reason. He just did not get the chance, because Deuce was here. Now he will show what he can do. But he needs the rest of the team to play well also. And after the bye week, we have to believe they will.
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09-27-2007, 07:58 AM	#8
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: A Simple Bush Question I'll believe that.... when he stops running backwards. I'll believe that.... when he delivers a hit (instead of running away from one). As of right now, he hasn't show me squat. I don't have near enough to believe he'll ever be on the caliber of Sanders. Show me otherwise Reggie. I'm waiting.

09-27-2007, 08:09 AM	#9
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: A Simple Bush Question Reggie will be fine. The truth is he's still got a lot to learn, but I have complete faith that he will. I wish he had a line half as good as the one Emmit ran all the way to Canton behind...but he doesn't. You know, Deuce wasn't exactly settin' the world on fire either...

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bobcat4u2 Registered Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 71	Re: A Simple Bush Question he would be as capable as barry sanders was with some blocking up front. without it ,he'll join duece in re-hab
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