Same ol'

saintfan · 09-28-2007, 02:21 PM

I think the frustration is born from most people's willingness to blame Brooks for everything wrong with those Haz teams when it's pretty clear that wasn't accurate. We averaged 29 points a game a few years back with Brooks and still everything wrong with civilization got pinned on him.

Now we have a pro-bowl caliber QB who's probably thrown more crappy passes over a three game span than Brooks ever did and people are defending him. (See the tipped pass argument)

I, for one, have been pointing to the O-Line for several years now. It's as bad now as it was then, but it's no worse.

fhotard · 09-28-2007, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I think the frustration is born from most people's willingness to blame Brooks for everything wrong with those Haz teams when it's pretty clear that wasn't accurate. We averaged 29 points a game a few years back with Brooks and still everything wrong with civilization got pinned on him.

Now we have a pro-bowl caliber QB who's probably thrown more crappy passes over a three game span than Brooks ever did and people are defending him. (See the tipped pass argument)

I, for one, have been pointing to the O-Line for several years now. It's as bad now as it was then, but it's no worse.

You just have to realize that Smiley made himself an easy target by his general demeanor during the game... especially the precious seconds immediately following one of his bad plays.
Brooks walked off the field smiling... I know, different people deal with adversity differently.
His smiling was probably just his natural reaction to stress.

Brees, the other hand, looks like someone just ran over his puppy right after he throws an INT.

It's all in perception. Most fans looked at Brooks' smiles and wanted to wring his neck, but then they see Brees make a similar throw, and when they see his face, they just want him to do better.

Someone commented about Brees talking and laughing with some of the opponents after a game... that's a sign of a good sport and of a professional. What was he supposed to do, tell them f off? That wouldn't sit well.

twelvegauge · 09-28-2007, 03:47 PM

See how those excuses flow so easily for Brees? that just what they're excuses. You should no matter get pissed if your team leader is seen laughing it up just after getting the teams butt hole ripped are right after a play, it doesn't matter but you will make an excuse for Brees like you always do!

Brees has had more turnovers this season bettering Brooks by leaps and bounds, forget the puppy...This is the same exact thing Mcnabb was talking about the treatment.

saintfan · 09-28-2007, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by fhotard

You just have to realize that Smiley made himself an easy target by his general demeanor during the game... especially the precious seconds immediately following one of his bad plays.
Brooks walked off the field smiling... I know, different people deal with adversity differently.
His smiling was probably just his natural reaction to stress.

Brees, the other hand, looks like someone just ran over his puppy right after he throws an INT.

It's all in perception. Most fans looked at Brooks' smiles and wanted to wring his neck, but then they see Brees make a similar throw, and when they see his face, they just want him to do better.

Someone commented about Brees talking and laughing with some of the opponents after a game... that's a sign of a good sport and of a professional. What was he supposed to do, tell them f off? That wouldn't sit well.

Well, that's what LT did last year, and reviews were mixed as I recall. Believe me, I know it's all perception...been saying that for many years now.

09-28-2007, 02:21 PM	#1
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Same ol' I think the frustration is born from most people's willingness to blame Brooks for everything wrong with those Haz teams when it's pretty clear that wasn't accurate. We averaged 29 points a game a few years back with Brooks and still everything wrong with civilization got pinned on him. Now we have a pro-bowl caliber QB who's probably thrown more crappy passes over a three game span than Brooks ever did and people are defending him. (See the tipped pass argument) I, for one, have been pointing to the O-Line for several years now. It's as bad now as it was then, but it's no worse.

09-28-2007, 03:22 PM	#2
fhotard 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 263	Re: Same ol' Originally Posted by saintfan I think the frustration is born from most people's willingness to blame Brooks for everything wrong with those Haz teams when it's pretty clear that wasn't accurate. We averaged 29 points a game a few years back with Brooks and still everything wrong with civilization got pinned on him. Now we have a pro-bowl caliber QB who's probably thrown more crappy passes over a three game span than Brooks ever did and people are defending him. (See the tipped pass argument) I, for one, have been pointing to the O-Line for several years now. It's as bad now as it was then, but it's no worse. You just have to realize that Smiley made himself an easy target by his general demeanor during the game... especially the precious seconds immediately following one of his bad plays. Brooks walked off the field smiling... I know, different people deal with adversity differently. His smiling was probably just his natural reaction to stress. Brees, the other hand, looks like someone just ran over his puppy right after he throws an INT. It's all in perception. Most fans looked at Brooks' smiles and wanted to wring his neck, but then they see Brees make a similar throw, and when they see his face, they just want him to do better. Someone commented about Brees talking and laughing with some of the opponents after a game... that's a sign of a good sport and of a professional. What was he supposed to do, tell them f off? That wouldn't sit well.

09-28-2007, 03:47 PM	#3
twelvegauge Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 2	Re: Same ol' See how those excuses flow so easily for Brees? that just what they're excuses. You should no matter get pissed if your team leader is seen laughing it up just after getting the teams butt hole ripped are right after a play, it doesn't matter but you will make an excuse for Brees like you always do! Brees has had more turnovers this season bettering Brooks by leaps and bounds, forget the puppy...This is the same exact thing Mcnabb was talking about the treatment.

09-28-2007, 04:06 PM	#4
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Same ol' Originally Posted by fhotard You just have to realize that Smiley made himself an easy target by his general demeanor during the game... especially the precious seconds immediately following one of his bad plays. Brooks walked off the field smiling... I know, different people deal with adversity differently. His smiling was probably just his natural reaction to stress. Brees, the other hand, looks like someone just ran over his puppy right after he throws an INT. It's all in perception. Most fans looked at Brooks' smiles and wanted to wring his neck, but then they see Brees make a similar throw, and when they see his face, they just want him to do better. Someone commented about Brees talking and laughing with some of the opponents after a game... that's a sign of a good sport and of a professional. What was he supposed to do, tell them f off? That wouldn't sit well. Well, that's what LT did last year, and reviews were mixed as I recall. Believe me, I know it's all perception...been saying that for many years now.