why are the saints 0-3?

ssmitty · 10-03-2007, 04:50 AM

2theadvocate.com | Saints | Several factors help explain Saints' 0-3 mark — Baton Rouge, LA

Euphoria · 10-03-2007, 11:03 AM

"A suspect offensive line that appeared to overachieve last season has been manhandled this season, disrupting everything that an offense that was No. 1 in the NFL last season has tried to do".

Hmm, who has been sayin this...

papz · 10-03-2007, 12:42 PM

I think we ALL know how you feel by now Euph. The dead horse is dead... leave it alone.

Euphoria · 10-03-2007, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I think we ALL know how you feel by now Euph. The dead horse is dead... leave it alone.

I am going to beat this drum for as long as I can. I been putting up with the crap for a few years...

Budsdrinker · 10-03-2007, 01:30 PM

It's 3 freaking games!!!! If it goes to 0-7 then start to think about rebuilding. There have been winning streaks in the past where teams have won 10 games in row you know. And the way the NFC looks this year, 9-7 should make the playoffs.

Euphoria · 10-03-2007, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

It's 3 freaking games!!!! If it goes to 0-7 then start to think about rebuilding. There have been winning streaks in the past where teams have won 10 games in row you know. And the way the NFC looks this year, 9-7 should make the playoffs.

We are only 4 weeks from being 0-7. As far as regular season goes we are 10-9. Thats not very promising either with all the expectation and over-hyped promies we were given. So do you want to take up this conversation in 4 weeks? lol.

LongTimeFan · 10-03-2007, 07:08 PM

As I said in another thread, the Saints can't block so the our running game is suffering and so is Brees, if they can somehow figure out how to protect Brees and make some holes the running game will get better but it starts up front, question is did the bye week give them time to work on the problem.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-04-2007, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by LongTimeFan

As I said in another thread, the Saints can't block so the our running game is suffering and so is Brees, if they can somehow figure out how to protect Brees and make some holes the running game will get better but it starts up front, question is did the bye week give them time to work on the problem.

This is the quote of the year and the fundamental question to be analyzed for this team. Let's take a look at the timeline a bit:

1) In the preseason of 2006, the Saints O-Line was picked by many pundits to be the worst line in the league. 32 out of 32 teams.

2) The 2006 season comes along and the Saints offense is prolific. #1 in the league for the year in yards and passing. Top 5 in every other category except rushing.

3) The 2007 preseason comes along and while two mid level picks are used for lineman, essentially the line comes back intact (along with the rest of the offense with the exception of TE and one WR position). Also during the preseason two foundations of the line, Faine and Brown, sustain injuries.

4) The 2007 season starts and frankly the line seems to be living down to their 2006 preseason prediction. Can't run block. Can't pass protect. Can't open holes. In Mora speak "diddly poo!".

So the question is what happened and how do we fix it? Is it simply attitude? Do we need new linemen from the backups to play (Streif, Allenman, etc)? No blocking schemes (zone blocking?). New plays to cover up the line deficiencies?

The offense has no rhythm, no identity. And now no Deuce to stabilize.

I know that some are calling for a revamp. Draft new players and the like. But it's the middle of the season. We have who we have. We have the coaches and players that we have. That hand is set.

So how do we play that hand to our advantage?

Ideas?

SFIAH

leilung · 10-03-2007, 07:37 PM

Why are the saints 0-3?

We're...ummm, not good.

MatthewT · 10-03-2007, 08:48 PM

There is a very good reason why the Saints are 0-3. That's because they are the Saints. I've been watching this team religiously since around the middle to late 70's, and it's always been one heartbreak after another. Then when things start really looking up, like the Saints are on their way, things have a tendency to break apart. It's been a horrible trend ever since I've started watching them. Anyway, I will continue to be a loyal New Orleans Saints fan, no matter how much it really hurts.

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10-03-2007, 11:03 AM	#2
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: why are the saints 0-3? "A suspect offensive line that appeared to overachieve last season has been manhandled this season, disrupting everything that an offense that was No. 1 in the NFL last season has tried to do". Hmm, who has been sayin this...

10-03-2007, 12:42 PM	#3
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: why are the saints 0-3? I think we ALL know how you feel by now Euph. The dead horse is dead... leave it alone.

10-03-2007, 12:46 PM	#4
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: why are the saints 0-3? Originally Posted by papz I think we ALL know how you feel by now Euph. The dead horse is dead... leave it alone. I am going to beat this drum for as long as I can. I been putting up with the crap for a few years...

10-03-2007, 01:30 PM	#5
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: why are the saints 0-3? It's 3 freaking games!!!! If it goes to 0-7 then start to think about rebuilding. There have been winning streaks in the past where teams have won 10 games in row you know. And the way the NFC looks this year, 9-7 should make the playoffs.

10-03-2007, 01:34 PM	#6
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: why are the saints 0-3? Originally Posted by Budsdrinker It's 3 freaking games!!!! If it goes to 0-7 then start to think about rebuilding. There have been winning streaks in the past where teams have won 10 games in row you know. And the way the NFC looks this year, 9-7 should make the playoffs. We are only 4 weeks from being 0-7. As far as regular season goes we are 10-9. Thats not very promising either with all the expectation and over-hyped promies we were given. So do you want to take up this conversation in 4 weeks? lol.

10-03-2007, 07:08 PM	#7
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Re: why are the saints 0-3? As I said in another thread, the Saints can't block so the our running game is suffering and so is Brees, if they can somehow figure out how to protect Brees and make some holes the running game will get better but it starts up front, question is did the bye week give them time to work on the problem.

10-04-2007, 07:05 AM	#8
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: why are the saints 0-3? Originally Posted by LongTimeFan As I said in another thread, the Saints can't block so the our running game is suffering and so is Brees, if they can somehow figure out how to protect Brees and make some holes the running game will get better but it starts up front, question is did the bye week give them time to work on the problem. This is the quote of the year and the fundamental question to be analyzed for this team. Let's take a look at the timeline a bit: 1) In the preseason of 2006, the Saints O-Line was picked by many pundits to be the worst line in the league. 32 out of 32 teams. 2) The 2006 season comes along and the Saints offense is prolific. #1 in the league for the year in yards and passing. Top 5 in every other category except rushing. 3) The 2007 preseason comes along and while two mid level picks are used for lineman, essentially the line comes back intact (along with the rest of the offense with the exception of TE and one WR position). Also during the preseason two foundations of the line, Faine and Brown, sustain injuries. 4) The 2007 season starts and frankly the line seems to be living down to their 2006 preseason prediction. Can't run block. Can't pass protect. Can't open holes. In Mora speak "diddly poo!". So the question is what happened and how do we fix it? Is it simply attitude? Do we need new linemen from the backups to play (Streif, Allenman, etc)? No blocking schemes (zone blocking?). New plays to cover up the line deficiencies? The offense has no rhythm, no identity. And now no Deuce to stabilize. I know that some are calling for a revamp. Draft new players and the like. But it's the middle of the season. We have who we have. We have the coaches and players that we have. That hand is set. So how do we play that hand to our advantage? Ideas? SFIAH
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10-03-2007, 07:37 PM	#9
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10-03-2007, 08:48 PM	#10
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: why are the saints 0-3? There is a very good reason why the Saints are 0-3. That's because they are the Saints. I've been watching this team religiously since around the middle to late 70's, and it's always been one heartbreak after another. Then when things start really looking up, like the Saints are on their way, things have a tendency to break apart. It's been a horrible trend ever since I've started watching them. Anyway, I will continue to be a loyal New Orleans Saints fan, no matter how much it really hurts.