why are the saints 0-3?

ssmitty · 10-03-2007, 05:50 AM

2theadvocate.com | Saints | Several factors help explain Saints' 0-3 mark — Baton Rouge, LA

Euphoria · 10-03-2007, 12:03 PM

"A suspect offensive line that appeared to overachieve last season has been manhandled this season, disrupting everything that an offense that was No. 1 in the NFL last season has tried to do".

Hmm, who has been sayin this...

papz · 10-03-2007, 01:42 PM

I think we ALL know how you feel by now Euph. The dead horse is dead... leave it alone.

Euphoria · 10-03-2007, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I think we ALL know how you feel by now Euph. The dead horse is dead... leave it alone.

I am going to beat this drum for as long as I can. I been putting up with the crap for a few years...

Euphoria · 10-03-2007, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

Offensive line, without a doubt. Course, when you have guys like Zach Strief SITTING there waiting for his chance, you have to put some blame on the coaching staff as well. Not to mention, you draft guys like Alleman and Bushrod to contribute SOMETHING to this team. For whatever reason, Payton will not pull these guys for playing poorly. For me, I don't care what you reputation is, how many probowls you've gone to etc. You play like CRAP for 3 games straight, your as* is getting benched.

Yeah I would like to agree with you but sometimes whats sitting behind those players maybe not the answer as well. They may not be ready to go and handle it. We are just screwed until the offseason. If we really are going to do this right we need to take a couple of years and rebuild, not just a quick fix.

Budsdrinker · 10-03-2007, 02:30 PM

It's 3 freaking games!!!! If it goes to 0-7 then start to think about rebuilding. There have been winning streaks in the past where teams have won 10 games in row you know. And the way the NFC looks this year, 9-7 should make the playoffs.

Euphoria · 10-03-2007, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

It's 3 freaking games!!!! If it goes to 0-7 then start to think about rebuilding. There have been winning streaks in the past where teams have won 10 games in row you know. And the way the NFC looks this year, 9-7 should make the playoffs.

We are only 4 weeks from being 0-7. As far as regular season goes we are 10-9. Thats not very promising either with all the expectation and over-hyped promies we were given. So do you want to take up this conversation in 4 weeks? lol.

WhoDat205 · 10-03-2007, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

Here's my deal with the offensive line. You have Strief, Alleman, Bushrod, Goodwin. Are all these guys stiffs or what? Other than Goodwin all are very young, granted. However, we spent 4 draft picks in the last two drafts on O lineman. They're still on the team so what the f?

I'm still trying to figure out what happened to the O-Line. They were great last year. WTF happened?!?

WhoDat205 · 10-03-2007, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

You know, you see a lot of posts condeming Payton, Gibbs etc. Why are we not BASHING the O Line coach? He has to take MUCH of this blame too. Hell, who is he anyway?

Marrone is listed as the OC/OLC on the team's website.

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LongTimeFan · 10-03-2007, 08:08 PM

As I said in another thread, the Saints can't block so the our running game is suffering and so is Brees, if they can somehow figure out how to protect Brees and make some holes the running game will get better but it starts up front, question is did the bye week give them time to work on the problem.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: why are the saints 0-3? "A suspect offensive line that appeared to overachieve last season has been manhandled this season, disrupting everything that an offense that was No. 1 in the NFL last season has tried to do". Hmm, who has been sayin this...

10-03-2007, 01:42 PM	#3
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: why are the saints 0-3? I think we ALL know how you feel by now Euph. The dead horse is dead... leave it alone.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: why are the saints 0-3? Originally Posted by papz I think we ALL know how you feel by now Euph. The dead horse is dead... leave it alone. I am going to beat this drum for as long as I can. I been putting up with the crap for a few years...

10-03-2007, 02:08 PM	#5
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: why are the saints 0-3? Originally Posted by saintsmissile Offensive line, without a doubt. Course, when you have guys like Zach Strief SITTING there waiting for his chance, you have to put some blame on the coaching staff as well. Not to mention, you draft guys like Alleman and Bushrod to contribute SOMETHING to this team. For whatever reason, Payton will not pull these guys for playing poorly. For me, I don't care what you reputation is, how many probowls you've gone to etc. You play like CRAP for 3 games straight, your as* is getting benched. Yeah I would like to agree with you but sometimes whats sitting behind those players maybe not the answer as well. They may not be ready to go and handle it. We are just screwed until the offseason. If we really are going to do this right we need to take a couple of years and rebuild, not just a quick fix.

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Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: why are the saints 0-3? It's 3 freaking games!!!! If it goes to 0-7 then start to think about rebuilding. There have been winning streaks in the past where teams have won 10 games in row you know. And the way the NFC looks this year, 9-7 should make the playoffs.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: why are the saints 0-3? Originally Posted by Budsdrinker It's 3 freaking games!!!! If it goes to 0-7 then start to think about rebuilding. There have been winning streaks in the past where teams have won 10 games in row you know. And the way the NFC looks this year, 9-7 should make the playoffs. We are only 4 weeks from being 0-7. As far as regular season goes we are 10-9. Thats not very promising either with all the expectation and over-hyped promies we were given. So do you want to take up this conversation in 4 weeks? lol.

10-03-2007, 03:03 PM	#8
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: why are the saints 0-3? Originally Posted by saintsmissile Here's my deal with the offensive line. You have Strief, Alleman, Bushrod, Goodwin. Are all these guys stiffs or what? Other than Goodwin all are very young, granted. However, we spent 4 draft picks in the last two drafts on O lineman. They're still on the team so what the f? I'm still trying to figure out what happened to the O-Line. They were great last year. WTF happened?!?

10-03-2007, 03:22 PM	#9
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: why are the saints 0-3? Originally Posted by saintsmissile You know, you see a lot of posts condeming Payton, Gibbs etc. Why are we not BASHING the O Line coach? He has to take MUCH of this blame too. Hell, who is he anyway? Marrone is listed as the OC/OLC on the team's website. New Orleans Saints - Coaches

10-03-2007, 08:08 PM	#10
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Re: why are the saints 0-3? As I said in another thread, the Saints can't block so the our running game is suffering and so is Brees, if they can somehow figure out how to protect Brees and make some holes the running game will get better but it starts up front, question is did the bye week give them time to work on the problem.