Reggie Bush
 

Reggie did ok in his first game as the featured back. 3 yards per carry is not very impressive, but Carolina has a decent defense. The jury is still out on him as a featured back, but he deserves a couple more games. It is concurring that we seemed to abandon the inside running game.

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i thought reggie was ok but one area he needs to improve is hitting the chip block before going out on his check down pattern.

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This will probably sound stupid, but I think Reggie accelerates too quickly to the hole. If you watch other runners they save that burst for when they get to the hole to blow past the LBs and DL. Reggie hits it at full speed and nothings had time to develop.

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LOL..Sterling Sharpe said the same thing one time. He said that RB is just too fast for his own good. Truth is....I thought he did well yestarday. Nothing foolish or fancy. He got positive yardage practically every time he touched the ball. Oh, and he held on to it as well. This season.....due to circumstances....Bush is gonna learn a lot and thats only good for us.

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Oh God! I'm thinking like Sterling?

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LOLOL....sorry to burst your bubble. But yeah....he said he is too fast and sometimes that speed does not allow him to see plays fully develop. He even demonstrated it.

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He isn't a feature back nor should ever be. When he gets in the hole he doesn't keep driving forward when its gets bunched up he tries to dance and take off to the side and runs in to his own blockers... I know own blockers sounds funny since there aren't really any. There were a couple of plays that caused him to do down after tunning into the big guys that were just standing around wearing the same uniform.

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I hope people realize what you said... Reggie did 'ok'. OK for a number one RB pick.

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I thought Reggie ran just fine

I disagree Euph
I did see the "O" line protected Drew much better this week then others but as far as run blocking I was not impressed at all
Bush was getting hit at the line on 7 out of 10 of his carries
I think it is foolish to give up on this young man so soon
I know this season has been a huge disappointment but Reggie is no flop
Maybe this will remind you and everyone of what he can do when he gets a few good blocks and I really want everyone to pay attention to the blocking in these videos
Then if you want to see something really saddening look at some highlights from this year and there is no blocking at all

YouTube - Reggie Bush TD against Cowboys

YouTube - Reggie Bush Walks it Out Saints Style

YouTube - Saints Seaon 1 Reggie Highlights

It seams easer to blame the man with the ball that to place the blame where it should be

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I don't understand what you are disagreeing with me on??? Ok line may have protected Brees well at times but there run blocking they didn't do well... so they sucked. Thats what I have been saying for years the problem is with the line I don't care if they have one decent portion to a game but they have sucked all year and years before.

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well you said I disagree
I know what this young man is capable of and he is a feature back

the biggest problem I see is a true lack of effort and team work
you must be willing to bleed for the guy standing next to you

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But you have nothing to prove this statement on???

At USC he wasn't a featured back then... how can you even make a statement like this. Makes no sense.

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Listen.....Dunn did it.....Westbrook does it.....I'm sure Bush will too. Both of these guys too a little while to develop into big time backs due to their size...Bush is in the same category and he too will eventually run like you expect him to run. For now, I thought he did great yestarday. He took what the defense gave him and nothing more. he didn't go crazy....nor did he dance around for an hour. He ran well and will do better as the year goes on.

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So you are saying he's going to contribute to a win eventually? He's got not blockers worth a damn right now. He can't carry a team nor will he ever. Why wasn't he that at USC? He was just the sports car on a very good, very talented team that let him out of the garage to return kicks and do some jukes moves and razle dazle the crowd. He was NOT nor WAS he EVER the go to guy at USC. So all of a sudden he is going to be in New Orleans??? makes no sense.

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When you have the personnel you had at USC do you have to make him the featured back? Is any ONE guy supposed to carry a TEAM? Reggie has had numerous productive days here in NO. I'm sure if he had Emmit Smith's lines from the Cowboys he'd be all over but for now.....he's doing fine and he's only gonna get better. Especially considering that he has no blockers right now.

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Reggie is just a rookie as a featured back. He has a lot to learn. Speed kills is a double edge sword. As for the OL I really hope at least two of our young guys step up and start. Just remember the panthers do have a couple of pretty good DL players to. All in all I have to say we did take a step in the right direction. Baby step but a step.

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Still doesn't make any sense... you draft a guy to be a feature back and he never was not even at USC. How can he be now? He wasn't drafted to be a feature back he was drafted to sell jerseys nothing more.

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So just to clarify, you're saying Reggie Bush has no value to the Saints other than to sell jersey's. Is that what you're saying?

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Uhm no thats not what I am saying, can't you read.

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Ummm....I'm kinda reading the same thing.

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I have lots to prove that statement on
hell I posted 3 videos that have a bunch of highlights that show clearly that when this guy gets blocks he puts up numbers plan and simple

I think your only seeing what you want too on this subject

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Ronnie Brown and Caddy Williams are both doomed for failure by his logic. McFadden and Jones out of Arkansas might as well not enter the draft either. Willie Parker must be a fluke as well.

The vast majority of collegiate programs run 2 or 3 back systems. They're all doomed. The future of NFL running backs are screwed.

You truly are clueless.

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WhoDat said: "This will probably sound stupid, but I think Reggie accelerates too quickly to the hole. If you watch other runners they save that burst for when they get to the hole to blow past the LBs and DL. Reggie hits it at full speed and nothings had time to develop." The word is patience . . . He is too quick for his own good. Trying to make things happen instead of letting the play develop. But I think with a little time as the featured back he will acquire this wisdom.

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Thirty touches, longest 13 yards. Not very impressive.

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like I said the guy is not getting blocks like he did last season
you can have the top back in the league but if he has to go up against tackler after tackler because of missed blocks you will see him fail every time


and lets not forget Reggie won the Heisman

last I checked they don't give that award to just anyone

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I'm not bashing Mr. Bush. I just want to point out that a featured back doesn't avoid contact by sliding toward the sideline when an additional 2 yards could mean the difference between a 1st down and a punt.

The NFL Today had an interesting analysis of the impact of speed. In a 40 yard dash 4.3guy will have 1.8 feet advantage over a 4.5 guy. In the passing game, that's huge. In close contact, it doesn't mean much, especially if the defender has the angle. Trying to slide laterall to the outside to avoid the hit has only two possibilities from the runner's perspective. (A) he doesn't like contact or (B) he doesn't understand how to be a running back.

For Reggie, I'm gonna say both. Watch the films, he just avoids contact like the plague. And, he doesn't know how to time his blocks.

Get Jamaal Branch back. Let him carry the load. He's currently unemployed and he knows the system and he's durable and certainly not afraid of contact.

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Jamal Branch is an interesting idea. I wonder why they haven't called him?

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He does run to quick to see the hole sometimes. But when he does have patience the o-line does not make a hole for him to run through. Why is Sean Payton always bringing Karney in the game when they want Reggie to run east to west. Everyone should stop blaming Reggie. Who dropped the ball 2-3 time costing us the game. Can anyone answer that question.

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No you're not... highlights aren't going to prove your statement either. You need to look at the game and the way he was used in the systems to see how he got the highlights.

Reggie Bush was not a feature everydown back at USC. Do you know where I live??? I live in Los Angeles just a few blocks away from USC. I drive though USC everyday on my way home from work. I watched and know a lot about USC while Reggie was here. He was NOT a feature back. He was a punt/kick returner and someone they used to counter and change up at RB while they had White as a RB who I will add wasn't the feature back but the pounding bruising back, more closer to the feature back than Bush was.

You can not use Reggie as a feature back he is a returner/reciever/back but not a feature running back. If you ever here anaylist say "you give him the ball in space" its because he can't be a feature back, he is someone you can allow to run the ball with hardly any blockers and let him take on a defender one on one, he is harder to bring down that way. He isn't the feature RB you can have pound the ball up the middle on any given play. Especially if you have a horrible offensive line.

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Euphoria what in the blue hell are u talking about. He can be a feature back if they open holes for him. He had a 100yd game against the Giants. LenDale white is just a fat ass guy who has good blockers.

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Devery, Colston, Reggie, Copper, Moore, and Johnson...just to name a few.

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NO he can't... why... because he never was. Thats like asking Brees ok you play our feature RB. He wasn't the feature back against the Giants that day.

Whats your point about LenDale??? go back and read my previous post.

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Reggie Bush - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Bush had an excellent 2005 season, as he was a unanimous All-American first-team pick and the winner of the Heisman Memorial Trophy. He was named the Associated Press 2005 Player of the Year, Pigskin Club of Washington D.C. Offensive Player of the Year, Touchdown Club of Columbus Player of the Year and was the recipient of the Walter Camp Player of the Year Award and Doak Walker Award (nation's best running back). He led the nation with an average of 222.3 all-purpose yards per game. and finished fourth in the NCAA Division 1-A ranks with an average of 133.85 yards per game rushing. "

Pretty impressive for a non-feature back.

2005 Rushing Stats:

Lendale - 197 Carries for 1,302
Reggie - 200 for 1,740

First off, your argument that Reggie can't be a feature back because he has never been one makes almost as little sense as your claim that your proximity to USC makes you an authority on the matter. Give us some points that actually back up your claim like "he's too small" or "he dances around too much", or better yet, give some thoughts about how he could develop into a feature back.

I think Reggie can definitely be a feature back. I do think he needs a power back to complement him, but that in no way means he can't take the bulk of the carries (see Westbrook/Buckhalter). I also think he has some bad tendencies that he needs to address/is addressing. He needs to find the balance between being patient and hitting the hole. Having better blocking and a more effective passing game would go a long way to help Reggie realize his potential as well. I am not ready label a kid who has scored 11 TDs in 1 1/4 seasons a bust.

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To say Reggie Bush can never be a feature running back because he never has been one just isn't true. There might be another reason (I can't think of one right now but) That's not a very good one. It's like saying I can never be a sumo wrestler because I never have been one. If I have the talent and brain to do it and the time to learn it, even I could do it. You give Reggie enough time and I think (IMHO) he can make it. There are many others that have pulled it off. So give me another reason. To me, that one is very weak.

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First of all don't make the mistake that I have called Reggie Bush a bust. I have never said that!

Second of all thanks for posting off of the numbers which only proves my point that he wasn't the feature back at USC. It poves there numbers were close and shared.

Thanks again for proving my point.

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The statement is true he hasn't been one. Nor is there any proof to show he can be one... there is however evidence that he will never be one.

If you want to consider the reason weak that is fine but its a reason none the less. There is no reasoning for saying he is and will be when he in fact has never been a feature back.

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Just as to me there is no reason to think that he won't be. Show me an example of where he proved he never will be. It can't be done in one game. If you think it can, i'm sure glad you're not the coach. Seems to me you have to give a guy a chance. Maybe to you you don't but in management that kind of thinking wouldn't last very long.

End of my discussing this subject. I prefer to at least try to keep some kind of positive outlook. It's hard but it can be done.:)

P.S. I never said he had been an every down feature back.

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I think Reggie has the potential to be very, very, very dangerous - when he learns to run straight up through a seam like Westbrook. Westbrook had to learn as well, so it's not like Reggie's vision is all it's ever going to be. He just needs some more experience with the NFL, how to spot good seams, and to run to them with his 4.3 speed. He'll be fine, just have some patience.

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I never said you called bush a bust. I said I was not ready to call him a bust. However, you did say:

Reggie had more carries and more yards than anyone on the team and we haven't even mentioned him as a reciever. How was he not the go-to guy? Are you saying that he was an afterthought in the opposition's game plan? Seriously, you could ask any D-Coordinator that played against SC that year and I would bet that at the top of the game plan was "stop Reggie Bush".

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I have every reason to think he will never be a feature back in the NFL and his past career thus far has proven it. Sure I can make the statement and until I am proven wrong then I am right. Now when that happens I'll be the first to admit I am wrong and all of you who want to call me out on it at that time feel free to do so, I feel you will have every right too.

There has been a lot of things I have been right on, including our beloved Offensive line for years now.