Drafts Since 2000 - Where are they now?

WhoDat205 · 10-08-2007, 12:54 PM

I'm finding as many excuses as possible to not work today, so in honor of an 0-4 start and the pole position in the Glen Dorsey sweepstakes here are some draft stats:

The Saints have drafted 57 players since 2000. The breakdown as follows:
QB 3
RB 3
FB 3
WR 10
TE 2
O-Line 10 (1C, 3G, 6T)
D-Line 12 (7DE, 5DT)
LB 7
CB 4
S 3
K 0
P 0
LS/KR 2

20 (35%) are still with the Saints. The league average from 94-04 was 42% and that number is probably higher for an 8 year span. (SI.com - Writers - Dr. Z: Charting the past decade of draft picks - Thursday July 8, 2004 6:01PM)

34 (60%) are still in the league (14 went to other teams and still play).

39% of the Saints' picks were spent on linemen. 9/24 postions or 37.5% (including K and P) fall in that category.

15 picks have been in the first two rounds (2RB, 3WR, 3OL, 4DL, 1LB, 2S). 10 still play for the Saints, 3 for other teams and 2 (Courtney Watson and Sullivan) are no longer playing.

There's no real point here, I just like #s. There's a good chance my counts are off, but I bet they're all pretty close.

leilung · 10-08-2007, 01:08 PM

The pattern is evident:
A lack of being able to evaluate STRONG NFL CALIBER TALENT!

I swear I've seen some of the hip pocket scouting done by some of the posters on this site do a better job of picking winners!

This also reflects on the fact that it always seems that (of late anyway) the GM is looking for lightning in a bottle (ie. Colston). Bottom line is its a rare find to spot an Armani Suit being sold in a Good Will Store! Stop shopping for filet mignon at hamburger prices because it ain't happening!

Aggressively court the free agent market (Check out what Bellicheat's done) and draft developmental guys if you want to fix the glaring issues and stop the bleeding in our lifetime!

BlackHoleSlam · 10-08-2007, 01:09 PM

I dont have the names. I will say, however, that people will always rag Haslett for the Jonathan Sullivan 2003 pick, but I think he had some pretty decent drafts, all things considered. Look at the 2002 draft particularly. No wonder they started off so surprising that year, they had Stallworth, Grant, and Bentley (Stallworth, if you remember, had a streak going for several weeks of catching at least 1 TD pass a game that season for a while).

J.T. O'Sullivan was taken that year too...he's still in the league.

WhoDat205 · 10-08-2007, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by BlackHoleSlam

I dont have the names. I will say, however, that people will always rag Haslett for the Jonathan Sullivan 2003 pick, but I think he had some pretty decent drafts, all things considered. Look at the 2002 draft particularly. No wonder they started off so surprising that year, they had Stallworth, Grant, and Bentley (Stallworth, if you remember, had a streak going for several weeks of catching at least 1 TD pass a game that season for a while).

J.T. O'Sullivan was taken that year too...he's still in the league.

2002
13 Donté Stallworth Wide Receiver Tennessee NE
25 Charles Grant Defensive End Georgia NO
44 LeCharles Bentley Center Ohio State CLE
82 James Allen Linebacker Oregon State FA
125 Keyuo Craver Cornerback Nebraska FA
186 J.T. O'Sullivan Quarterback UC Davis DET
196 John Gilmore Tight End Penn State CHI
224 Derrius Monroe Defensive End Virginia Tech FA

WhoDat205 · 10-08-2007, 01:19 PM

The 01 draft was a serious flop:

2001
23 Deuce McAllister Running Back Mississippi NO
70 Sedrick Hodge Outside Linebacker North Carolina FA
81 Smith, Kenny Defensive Tackle Alabama FA
115 Moran Norris Fullback Kansas SF
153 Onome Ojo Wide Receiver Cal-Davis FA
185 Mitch White Tackle Oregon State FA
221 Ennis Davis Defensive Tackle Southern California FA

2 Players are still in the league.

hagan714 · 10-08-2007, 02:48 PM

I know it sux even more in black and white

10-08-2007, 12:54 PM	#1
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Drafts Since 2000 - Where are they now? I'm finding as many excuses as possible to not work today, so in honor of an 0-4 start and the pole position in the Glen Dorsey sweepstakes here are some draft stats: The Saints have drafted 57 players since 2000. The breakdown as follows: QB 3 RB 3 FB 3 WR 10 TE 2 O-Line 10 (1C, 3G, 6T) D-Line 12 (7DE, 5DT) LB 7 CB 4 S 3 K 0 P 0 LS/KR 2 20 (35%) are still with the Saints. The league average from 94-04 was 42% and that number is probably higher for an 8 year span. (SI.com - Writers - Dr. Z: Charting the past decade of draft picks - Thursday July 8, 2004 6:01PM) 34 (60%) are still in the league (14 went to other teams and still play). 39% of the Saints' picks were spent on linemen. 9/24 postions or 37.5% (including K and P) fall in that category. 15 picks have been in the first two rounds (2RB, 3WR, 3OL, 4DL, 1LB, 2S). 10 still play for the Saints, 3 for other teams and 2 (Courtney Watson and Sullivan) are no longer playing. There's no real point here, I just like #s. There's a good chance my counts are off, but I bet they're all pretty close.
	"defence's personal to allwats double team or watch is over, that one reason why the saints or not any good." - Vador101

10-08-2007, 01:08 PM	#2
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,369	Re: Drafts Since 2000 - Where are they now? The pattern is evident: A lack of being able to evaluate STRONG NFL CALIBER TALENT! I swear I've seen some of the hip pocket scouting done by some of the posters on this site do a better job of picking winners! This also reflects on the fact that it always seems that (of late anyway) the GM is looking for lightning in a bottle (ie. Colston). Bottom line is its a rare find to spot an Armani Suit being sold in a Good Will Store! Stop shopping for filet mignon at hamburger prices because it ain't happening! Aggressively court the free agent market (Check out what Bellicheat's done) and draft developmental guys if you want to fix the glaring issues and stop the bleeding in our lifetime!
	A wise man once said, "Poo-poo smells just as bad as s#!%. One just SOUNDS cuter!"

10-08-2007, 01:09 PM	#3
BlackHoleSlam Registered Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 40	Re: Drafts Since 2000 - Where are they now? I dont have the names. I will say, however, that people will always rag Haslett for the Jonathan Sullivan 2003 pick, but I think he had some pretty decent drafts, all things considered. Look at the 2002 draft particularly. No wonder they started off so surprising that year, they had Stallworth, Grant, and Bentley (Stallworth, if you remember, had a streak going for several weeks of catching at least 1 TD pass a game that season for a while). J.T. O'Sullivan was taken that year too...he's still in the league.
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10-08-2007, 01:14 PM	#4
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Drafts Since 2000 - Where are they now? Originally Posted by BlackHoleSlam I dont have the names. I will say, however, that people will always rag Haslett for the Jonathan Sullivan 2003 pick, but I think he had some pretty decent drafts, all things considered. Look at the 2002 draft particularly. No wonder they started off so surprising that year, they had Stallworth, Grant, and Bentley (Stallworth, if you remember, had a streak going for several weeks of catching at least 1 TD pass a game that season for a while). J.T. O'Sullivan was taken that year too...he's still in the league. 2002 13 Donté Stallworth Wide Receiver Tennessee NE 25 Charles Grant Defensive End Georgia NO 44 LeCharles Bentley Center Ohio State CLE 82 James Allen Linebacker Oregon State FA 125 Keyuo Craver Cornerback Nebraska FA 186 J.T. O'Sullivan Quarterback UC Davis DET 196 John Gilmore Tight End Penn State CHI 224 Derrius Monroe Defensive End Virginia Tech FA

10-08-2007, 01:19 PM	#5
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Drafts Since 2000 - Where are they now? The 01 draft was a serious flop: 2001 23 Deuce McAllister Running Back Mississippi NO 70 Sedrick Hodge Outside Linebacker North Carolina FA 81 Smith, Kenny Defensive Tackle Alabama FA 115 Moran Norris Fullback Kansas SF 153 Onome Ojo Wide Receiver Cal-Davis FA 185 Mitch White Tackle Oregon State FA 221 Ennis Davis Defensive Tackle Southern California FA 2 Players are still in the league.

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