Jeff Faine

Euphoria · 10-23-2007, 10:10 PM

wait you want me to be positive about a player who sucks... hmmm let me see if I can figure this one out.

...look at it this way he showed up to the game
...He knew how to put his helmet on, cool.

I feel bad he's hurt but on the field he isn't a loss. (actually that is a possitive huh?) If its not a loss its a positive.

Boogro · 10-23-2007, 10:47 PM

Look, I live in the N.O. metro area and I know a lot of Saints fans that are always negative. I just just their nature. When you lose for so long, it gets to you. Now, I am as big of a Saints fan as any. The posts may not show it, but I come here pretty often...mostly in the offseason for some reason...It's hard to be positive when you expect so much out of this football team and they start off 0-4. Now we won 2 in a row....Great...But I am still not pleased with their play...The line has improved and Reggie is fun to watch, but the offense looks so out of rhythm.

I am trying best as I can to stay positive, but it sucks when people bring up next year's draft after 3 or 4 games. Thats when you know you've hit rock bottom. All I am saying is, people take losing differently. While some look at the good, some point out the bad. People are going to have opinions. Some outrageous and some are agreable. I am not going to as far to say this team doesn't have talent or Reggie is a 3rd down back, but I will say Reggie is a lot better off with a healthy Duece McAllister.

Now, I can give a good Rube Baker speech to get everyone to look on the bright side of things, but I can't do that until I see a more consistent offense and kicker. We have improved, but to meet our expectations we are going to have to improve a hell of a lot more. Like Reggie said, I wanna be that team that everyone hate to play.

frankeefrank · 10-23-2007, 10:26 PM

Euph,
What was you take on LeCharles Bentley?
Just wondering.

I think Faine is an upgrade over Bentley at Center. Bentley was a great guard.

Euphoria · 10-23-2007, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by frankeefrank

Euph,
What was you take on LeCharles Bentley?
Just wondering.

I think Faine is an upgrade over Bentley at Center. Bentley was a great guard.

When you talk offensive lines you actually have to watch the player in the game not the offensive stats. Thats where show they don't know the real game. I said before and I'll say it again watch Faine on a screen pass and you'll see why we can't run screens he moves out of the way from a Defender instead of leveling a small db he lets them go. He'd rather just stand in front of someone and just try and be in there way in stead of engaging in hitting.

Bently far better! I think he's a better Guard than Center though but I know some will say otherwise and that is fine. I just think its easier to replace a center than a guard. The hardest part is setting the blocking.

Boogro · 10-23-2007, 10:56 PM

There is no wat Faine is a better center than Bentley. Yes, Bentley was a great guard and he was also a great center. Faine is better now cause he can actually play, but Bentley was the heart of our line. Did you watch the Titans game? Have you ever seen Bentley get run over that bad......ever?

Euphoria · 10-23-2007, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Boogro

There is no wat Faine is a better center than Bentley. Yes, Bentley was a great guard and he was also a great center. Faine is better now cause he can actually play, but Bentley was the heart of our line. Did you watch the Titans game? Have you ever seen Bentley get run over that bad......ever?

Well Faine injured and I can argue he can play but Bently is about to return for the Browns from what I hear.

QBREES9 · 10-24-2007, 12:51 PM

Any word on jeff playing this weekend.

papz · 10-24-2007, 07:30 PM

Pro Bowl alternate" You don't neccesarily get into the Pro Bowl based on numbers its also a popularity vote. You be nice to voters, take a few out to dinner, play nice nice, you to have a shot to get in.

I maybe wrong (though I don't think so) but it's not the fans who vote for the Pro Bowl alternates... I believe it's the players and coaches. The fans vote for the Pro Bowl starters.

He's a FRAUD! You might want to also add he was a starter for the Browns most of those years... and they dumped him off for WHO??? BENTLY!!!

If you sit there and think about that, that doesn't exactly prove your point of Faine being a fraud... considering Bentley was a Pro Bowl guard/center. And just because he played for a horrible team, doesn't mean he's a horrible player if you were implying that. For example the Rams suck... that doesn't mean Torry Holt sucks.

LongTimeFan · 10-24-2007, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I maybe wrong (though I don't think so) but it's not the fans who vote for the Pro Bowl alternates... I believe it's the players and coaches. The fans vote for the Pro Bowl starters.

If you sit there and think about that, that doesn't exactly prove your point of Faine being a fraud... considering Bentley was a Pro Bowl guard/center. And just because he played for a horrible team, doesn't mean he's a horrible player if you were implying that. For example the Rams suck... that doesn't mean Torry Holt sucks.

I have Holt on my fantasy team and he's just not helping me at all, it's not his fault why his numbers are down,, QB injured, RB injured which pretty much killed their running game, they are averaging 11.4 points scored per game, not good if your a Rams fan or if you own Holt own your team as I do, I continue to play Holt each week, you just can't sit down a Torry Holt.

Euphoria · 10-24-2007, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I maybe wrong (though I don't think so) but it's not the fans who vote for the Pro Bowl alternates... I believe it's the players and coaches. The fans vote for the Pro Bowl starters.

If you sit there and think about that, that doesn't exactly prove your point of Faine being a fraud... considering Bentley was a Pro Bowl guard/center. And just because he played for a horrible team, doesn't mean he's a horrible player if you were implying that. For example the Rams suck... that doesn't mean Torry Holt sucks.

This is my point... you buy dinner and have some good friends in the NFL... you get into the Pro Bowl. I assume we agree on this. I also heard something of the sort on ESPN recently. I don't know if you were just saying the same thing or trying to argue my point but its the same point.

Don't mislead my second point though I feel like Bently deserved based on his actually play. Faine has not. Some players get known by the fans who vote based on numbers and excitment. Some get in because the players don't accept the invite to play in the Pro Bowl so they find someone to fill in.

10-23-2007, 10:10 PM	#1
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jeff Faine wait you want me to be positive about a player who sucks... hmmm let me see if I can figure this one out. ...look at it this way he showed up to the game ...He knew how to put his helmet on, cool. I feel bad he's hurt but on the field he isn't a loss. (actually that is a possitive huh?) If its not a loss its a positive.

10-23-2007, 10:47 PM	#2
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	Re: Jeff Faine Look, I live in the N.O. metro area and I know a lot of Saints fans that are always negative. I just just their nature. When you lose for so long, it gets to you. Now, I am as big of a Saints fan as any. The posts may not show it, but I come here pretty often...mostly in the offseason for some reason...It's hard to be positive when you expect so much out of this football team and they start off 0-4. Now we won 2 in a row....Great...But I am still not pleased with their play...The line has improved and Reggie is fun to watch, but the offense looks so out of rhythm. I am trying best as I can to stay positive, but it sucks when people bring up next year's draft after 3 or 4 games. Thats when you know you've hit rock bottom. All I am saying is, people take losing differently. While some look at the good, some point out the bad. People are going to have opinions. Some outrageous and some are agreable. I am not going to as far to say this team doesn't have talent or Reggie is a 3rd down back, but I will say Reggie is a lot better off with a healthy Duece McAllister. Now, I can give a good Rube Baker speech to get everyone to look on the bright side of things, but I can't do that until I see a more consistent offense and kicker. We have improved, but to meet our expectations we are going to have to improve a hell of a lot more. Like Reggie said, I wanna be that team that everyone hate to play.
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10-23-2007, 10:26 PM	#3
frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	Re: Jeff Faine Euph, What was you take on LeCharles Bentley? Just wondering. I think Faine is an upgrade over Bentley at Center. Bentley was a great guard.
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10-23-2007, 10:50 PM	#4
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jeff Faine Originally Posted by frankeefrank Euph, What was you take on LeCharles Bentley? Just wondering. I think Faine is an upgrade over Bentley at Center. Bentley was a great guard. When you talk offensive lines you actually have to watch the player in the game not the offensive stats. Thats where show they don't know the real game. I said before and I'll say it again watch Faine on a screen pass and you'll see why we can't run screens he moves out of the way from a Defender instead of leveling a small db he lets them go. He'd rather just stand in front of someone and just try and be in there way in stead of engaging in hitting. Bently far better! I think he's a better Guard than Center though but I know some will say otherwise and that is fine. I just think its easier to replace a center than a guard. The hardest part is setting the blocking.

10-23-2007, 10:56 PM	#5
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	Re: Jeff Faine There is no wat Faine is a better center than Bentley. Yes, Bentley was a great guard and he was also a great center. Faine is better now cause he can actually play, but Bentley was the heart of our line. Did you watch the Titans game? Have you ever seen Bentley get run over that bad......ever?

10-23-2007, 11:02 PM	#6
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jeff Faine Originally Posted by Boogro There is no wat Faine is a better center than Bentley. Yes, Bentley was a great guard and he was also a great center. Faine is better now cause he can actually play, but Bentley was the heart of our line. Did you watch the Titans game? Have you ever seen Bentley get run over that bad......ever? Well Faine injured and I can argue he can play but Bently is about to return for the Browns from what I hear.

10-24-2007, 12:51 PM	#7
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Jeff Faine Any word on jeff playing this weekend.

10-24-2007, 07:30 PM	#8
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Jeff Faine Pro Bowl alternate" You don't neccesarily get into the Pro Bowl based on numbers its also a popularity vote. You be nice to voters, take a few out to dinner, play nice nice, you to have a shot to get in. I maybe wrong (though I don't think so) but it's not the fans who vote for the Pro Bowl alternates... I believe it's the players and coaches. The fans vote for the Pro Bowl starters. He's a FRAUD! You might want to also add he was a starter for the Browns most of those years... and they dumped him off for WHO??? BENTLY!!! If you sit there and think about that, that doesn't exactly prove your point of Faine being a fraud... considering Bentley was a Pro Bowl guard/center. And just because he played for a horrible team, doesn't mean he's a horrible player if you were implying that. For example the Rams suck... that doesn't mean Torry Holt sucks.

10-24-2007, 07:46 PM	#9
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Re: Jeff Faine Originally Posted by papz I maybe wrong (though I don't think so) but it's not the fans who vote for the Pro Bowl alternates... I believe it's the players and coaches. The fans vote for the Pro Bowl starters. If you sit there and think about that, that doesn't exactly prove your point of Faine being a fraud... considering Bentley was a Pro Bowl guard/center. And just because he played for a horrible team, doesn't mean he's a horrible player if you were implying that. For example the Rams suck... that doesn't mean Torry Holt sucks. I have Holt on my fantasy team and he's just not helping me at all, it's not his fault why his numbers are down,, QB injured, RB injured which pretty much killed their running game, they are averaging 11.4 points scored per game, not good if your a Rams fan or if you own Holt own your team as I do, I continue to play Holt each week, you just can't sit down a Torry Holt.

10-24-2007, 10:03 PM	#10
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jeff Faine Originally Posted by papz I maybe wrong (though I don't think so) but it's not the fans who vote for the Pro Bowl alternates... I believe it's the players and coaches. The fans vote for the Pro Bowl starters. If you sit there and think about that, that doesn't exactly prove your point of Faine being a fraud... considering Bentley was a Pro Bowl guard/center. And just because he played for a horrible team, doesn't mean he's a horrible player if you were implying that. For example the Rams suck... that doesn't mean Torry Holt sucks. This is my point... you buy dinner and have some good friends in the NFL... you get into the Pro Bowl. I assume we agree on this. I also heard something of the sort on ESPN recently. I don't know if you were just saying the same thing or trying to argue my point but its the same point. Don't mislead my second point though I feel like Bently deserved based on his actually play. Faine has not. Some players get known by the fans who vote based on numbers and excitment. Some get in because the players don't accept the invite to play in the Pro Bowl so they find someone to fill in.
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