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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by papz I maybe wrong (though I don't think so) but it's not the fans who vote for the Pro Bowl alternates... I believe it's the players and coaches. The fans vote for the Pro Bowl starters. If ...
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10-24-2007, 08:46 PM | #31 |
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Re: Jeff Faine
Originally Posted by papz
I have Holt on my fantasy team and he's just not helping me at all, it's not his fault why his numbers are down,, QB injured, RB injured which pretty much killed their running game, they are averaging 11.4 points scored per game, not good if your a Rams fan or if you own Holt own your team as I do, I continue to play Holt each week, you just can't sit down a Torry Holt. |
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10-24-2007, 11:03 PM | #32 |
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Re: Jeff Faine
Originally Posted by papz
This is my point... you buy dinner and have some good friends in the NFL... you get into the Pro Bowl. I assume we agree on this. I also heard something of the sort on ESPN recently. I don't know if you were just saying the same thing or trying to argue my point but its the same point.
Don't mislead my second point though I feel like Bently deserved based on his actually play. Faine has not. Some players get known by the fans who vote based on numbers and excitment. Some get in because the players don't accept the invite to play in the Pro Bowl so they find someone to fill in. |
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10-24-2007, 11:47 PM | #33 |
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Re: Jeff Faine
Look, Faine has done well at times and is adequate. If I not mistaken, wasn't Brooks a Pro-Bowl alternate one year? The Pro Bowl is a joke now. A lot of players that get invited, don't even go anymore. Tony Romo went to the Pro Bowl last year after playing like 9 games or something. I believe the fan's vote is partial to the players that get selected.
These arguments get so blown out of proportion. Honestly, would you rather still have Bentley or Faine? That's both being completely healthy of course. To me, it's a no brainer. |
10-25-2007, 12:26 AM | #34 |
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Re: Jeff Faine
Originally Posted by Boogro
if you wanna settle for adequate then I guess you are happy with 2-4. Faine is stinking up the joint this year that if FOR SURE!
Agree BENTLEY, hands down! |
10-25-2007, 02:16 AM | #35 |
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Re: Jeff Faine
Originally Posted by Euphoria
Euph, I am sure if the "Agree Bentley" part was a sarcastic remark. I actually agree, no sarcasm involved. There shouldn't even be an argument over this ridiculous comparison. To me, getting rid of Bentley was a bad mistake, but I have to live it. I think most of us can agree that Bentley was better. Last year, I had no problem with Faine...we were winning. No one is playing as well as they did last year except maybe Moore Karney, Weatherford, and Bullocks has improved. That's not saying much.
I am happy with 2-4, but only after we lost the first four. I am disgusted from an overall standpoint. As far as the Faine/Bentley comparison, I still haven't got answer from my previous question. Which is, did ANYONE ever see Bentley get manhandled like Faine did in the Titans game? I don't think so. Bentley is a far better run blocker and pass blocker than Faine is, hands down. If the "I with Jeff Faine" club still don't believe me, then wait until the Jags game. Their DT's are the best in football and they'll eat Faine's lunch (if he plays). I hope he can improve and play better as goes for the rest of the team. Brown was looking bad the first couple games and looks to be going a lot better so it can happen. Let's just hope this offense can get their rhythm back and get going. |
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10-25-2007, 09:57 AM | #37 |
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Re: Jeff Faine
Jeff Faine (pectoral) missed practice Wednesday and is not expected to play in Week 8.
Faine tried to play through an injured left pectoral muscle Sunday, but left the game several times before finally calling it quits. The Saints have avoided revealing the exact nature of the injury, but a torn muscle could sideline him for several games. Jonathan Goodwin, who filled in Sunday, would start in his place. Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune I guess some get their wish. |
10-25-2007, 10:03 AM | #38 |
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Re: Jeff Faine
Papz,my friend. You know that there are people on here that no matter who or what happens, they will never be happy with who or what we have. It's just their nature. There are times however, I'd like to see their butts out there trying to do some of the things we ask our players to do. That would be interesting to say the least.
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10-25-2007, 07:33 PM | #39 |
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I've heard how painful a pectoral injury can be, it's very hard to take deep breaths much less lean over and put weight on one arm and snap the ball with the other.
I hope we get him back soon but that type of an injury can be tricky and can be tweaked very easily.. IMO they'll be OK until they get him bacl on the field. |
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Re: Jeff Faine
Actually, I think they do select Pro Bowl alternates just in case someone drops out or has surgery or what not. I know it doesn't mean he is a Pro Bowler.
By pointing out Faine's problems as a center this year, doesn't mean I don't think we can upgrade the position. He played well last year, no doubt. It's a "what have you done for me lately" league and Faine really hasn't done much lately. Notice who was one of the guys blocking down field for Pierre when he scored, Goodwin. All I care about is winning and we won 2 in a row and I am thankful for that. I am happy with Thomas playing corner, Mare kicking, the whole team....as long as we keep winning. I don't care how we do it. Doesn't mean that I won't be calling for upgrades in the offseason though. Now, to say that I or any of you try this game at their level, it's impossible. They are Pros, the best of the best, but some aren't as good as others. It's really pointless to even bring up such a ridiculous statement. We are the best fans in the world, fellas. Might even be the most brutal to our players and coaches. When you expect you team to make the playoffs and go deep into the playoffs and they start out 0-4, then the sh*t hits the fan. I have been optimistic the whole time and I still am, but let's be honest with ourselves, this team has played well below par. We are gradually improving and I think the defense has been outstanding lately. Now if they can hold on until the offense improves, then we'll have something. Right now we are a 2-4 team on the rise and I hope it continues. I am not a big fan of Faine, never was, along with a few other players on this club. As I am sure some of you feel a certain way about other players. This whole argument started with a Faine/Bentley comparison and I think the majority of us agree, even Euph. Now let's move on and kick some ass out there in fruitcake land. |