So, Saints, you've just beaten the three worst teams in the NFL....

saintsfan1313 · 10-29-2007, 03:23 PM

I kinda see where everyone is coming from, with NE and Indy being crazy good right now, and how they are guna win the SB....so should every team in the NFC jus quit cuz they have no chance??? F That.....the superbowl is ONE game. Its not a series like NBA or MLB. Once playoffs start, regular season records mean nothing. Any team can beat any team any given day. Honestly, the Colts can be beat, but a handful of teams right now. Are we there yet? no, is it possible to improve enough this season, get to the superbowl and play them and win? yes it is. Until we are mathematically out of the playoffs, we can win the superbowl. Thats it. No one can say we have no chance of winning, becuz there is a chance we can. Dont crown Indy or NE just yet....theres still alot of season....

Budsdrinker · 10-29-2007, 03:33 PM

All this talk about the Colts or Pats winning the Superbowl already is a bunch of crap.
Both teams are great but every team is beatable on any given Sunday. If the Pats keep going all out on teams once the outcome has been decided like they are doing right now some defensive player will take a cheap shot on Brady and take him out for the rest of the year and then the Pats are in trouble. There once was a mighty Colt team way back when that thought they were unbeatable and a young cocky QB from Alabama named Joe took care of that thought. So the bottom line is if you play with the confidence of a winner anything is possible and any team is beatable.

SapperSaint · 10-29-2007, 04:11 PM

All of the players in the NFL are the best players in the world. Any team IS beatable, but nonsense is nonsense. I must be the only crazy person here that thinks that the Saints GOING to the SB muchless WINNING the SB, is a 1-42 chance long shot. You guys are talking about playoffs and SuperBowl like we are 6-1 right now. I'm in no way dogging our team, I'm simply making the point that we are not ready to play teams on the same level as Indy or NE. If you think we can your blinding yourself as a Saint fan.

If we beat JAX like we did SF, I'll change my thought process. But don't sit there and pretty much call me stupid for pre-crowning NE. You can't compare Broadway Joe's victory over Baltimore to NE of 2007. Just because it happens in college football, how many times has it happen in the NFL in the past two decades?

Euphoria · 10-29-2007, 05:01 PM

Yeah the Colts can beat the Pats and the Pats can beat the Colts but as for as anyone esle you aren't living in reality if you think otherwise.

I have been on this band wagon from day one and NO RESPECT, I swear. We are a good team, not great, not close to winning a SB. We will need a lot of luck and no Faine just to get there. Sure YES we can get to the SB you I'll also use this disclaimer "because we are in the NFC".

Euphoria · 10-29-2007, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by mjf150

Have you ever heard of a "bad 2-0 team"? Records are not always indicative of how good a team is or isn't. Those two wins came against a Panthers team that finished 8-8 and a Tampa team who finished 4-12. We were a good 2-0 team, and they were a bad 2-0 team, and we proved that when the two went head-to-head.

2-0 bad team is called "surprise team".

I can agree with you that records aren't an indication how good your team is based on schedule of opponets and football gods have to be looking in on ya from time to time.

With this said you can see why we could say we over-achieved last year based on this arguement. We did look good against the 49ers but I'll agree lets keep this in perspective... its the 49ers, not the Pats. We might be the best 3-4 team out there but winning a SB is a bit of a reach.

BlackHoleSlam · 10-29-2007, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by mjf150

BlackHoleSlam, the Saints are a good team, not great team, that played poorly in the first 4 games. Why are you arguing symantics? The Falcons were a bad team last year - period. They may have been 2-0 at the time, but there have been a few teams to start off a season 2-0 and not be good. Remember, you can be 2-0 and be lucky, instead of good. However, luck will eventually run out, but good teams continue to win. Are you a closet Falcons fan?

LOL @ closet falcons fan.

You are basing your statement on what the Falcons later became. Even after the Saints game, the Falcons still ended up starting 5-2. Meaning that nearly halfway into the season, they were still a viable threat in the division. Just because they went on a 4-game losing streak and eventually folded into dogcrap doesn't mean that they weren't a "good" team at the time that the Saints played them in the Superdome.

The Saints started the 2002 season 6-1. During that season, they defeated Tampa Bay twice. Does that mean the Saints were never a good team during that season AT ANY POINT, since they "finished" by missing the playoffs?

papz · 10-29-2007, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Yeah the Colts can beat the Pats and the Pats can beat the Colts but as for as anyone esle you aren't living in reality if you think otherwise.

I have been on this band wagon from day one and NO RESPECT, I swear. We are a good team, not great, not close to winning a SB. We will need a lot of luck and no Faine just to get there. Sure YES we can get to the SB you I'll also use this disclaimer "because we are in the NFC".

For a person who predicted we go 0-5... damn I sense some optimism in there. He said we were a good team! Someone look outside and tell me if pigs are flying.

I can slowly see Euph chasing after the bus... someone stop and let him on.

saintsfan1313 · 10-29-2007, 05:20 PM

winning the superbowl isnt out of reach....its week 8.....i dont think we've been elimated yet.....as far as i kno, no one has secured a playoff spot yet.....

Euphoria · 10-29-2007, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1313

I kinda see where everyone is coming from, with NE and Indy being crazy good right now, and how they are guna win the SB....so should every team in the NFC jus quit cuz they have no chance??? F That.....the superbowl is ONE game. Its not a series like NBA or MLB. Once playoffs start, regular season records mean nothing. Any team can beat any team any given day. Honestly, the Colts can be beat, but a handful of teams right now. Are we there yet? no, is it possible to improve enough this season, get to the superbowl and play them and win? yes it is. Until we are mathematically out of the playoffs, we can win the superbowl. Thats it. No one can say we have no chance of winning, becuz there is a chance we can. Dont crown Indy or NE just yet....theres still alot of season....

I hear what you are saying but you have to look at it as only a mere 'prediction' base on how they are playing. They are leaps and bounds over any NFC team. That is something we need to learn and strive towards. Are we in that league, honestly ask yourself that question. The answer, unless you living in World of Warcraft or some other realm un known to mankind is -NO-.

Euphoria · 10-29-2007, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by papz

For a person who predicted we go 0-5... damn I sense some optimism in there. He said we were a good team! Someone look outside and tell me if pigs are flying.

I can slowly see Euph chasing after the bus... someone stop and let him on.

Papz don't start this again... I didn't predict. I said if we go 0-5 here is why. Thats like saying your name is Papz so where the hell is my allowance?

10-29-2007, 03:23 PM	#31
saintsfan1313 El Mero Mero Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kingsville, Tx Posts: 669	Re: So, Saints, you've just beaten the three worst teams in the NFL.... I kinda see where everyone is coming from, with NE and Indy being crazy good right now, and how they are guna win the SB....so should every team in the NFC jus quit cuz they have no chance??? F That.....the superbowl is ONE game. Its not a series like NBA or MLB. Once playoffs start, regular season records mean nothing. Any team can beat any team any given day. Honestly, the Colts can be beat, but a handful of teams right now. Are we there yet? no, is it possible to improve enough this season, get to the superbowl and play them and win? yes it is. Until we are mathematically out of the playoffs, we can win the superbowl. Thats it. No one can say we have no chance of winning, becuz there is a chance we can. Dont crown Indy or NE just yet....theres still alot of season....
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10-29-2007, 03:33 PM	#32
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: So, Saints, you've just beaten the three worst teams in the NFL.... All this talk about the Colts or Pats winning the Superbowl already is a bunch of crap. Both teams are great but every team is beatable on any given Sunday. If the Pats keep going all out on teams once the outcome has been decided like they are doing right now some defensive player will take a cheap shot on Brady and take him out for the rest of the year and then the Pats are in trouble. There once was a mighty Colt team way back when that thought they were unbeatable and a young cocky QB from Alabama named Joe took care of that thought. So the bottom line is if you play with the confidence of a winner anything is possible and any team is beatable.

10-29-2007, 04:11 PM	#33
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: So, Saints, you've just beaten the three worst teams in the NFL.... All of the players in the NFL are the best players in the world. Any team IS beatable, but nonsense is nonsense. I must be the only crazy person here that thinks that the Saints GOING to the SB muchless WINNING the SB, is a 1-42 chance long shot. You guys are talking about playoffs and SuperBowl like we are 6-1 right now. I'm in no way dogging our team, I'm simply making the point that we are not ready to play teams on the same level as Indy or NE. If you think we can your blinding yourself as a Saint fan. If we beat JAX like we did SF, I'll change my thought process. But don't sit there and pretty much call me stupid for pre-crowning NE. You can't compare Broadway Joe's victory over Baltimore to NE of 2007. Just because it happens in college football, how many times has it happen in the NFL in the past two decades?
	"We are number one. All others are number two, or lower." -The Sphinx http://blackandgold.com/groups/28-ou...tsman-s-corner Last edited by SapperSaint; 10-29-2007 at 04:14 PM..

10-29-2007, 05:01 PM	#34
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: So, Saints, you've just beaten the three worst teams in the NFL.... Yeah the Colts can beat the Pats and the Pats can beat the Colts but as for as anyone esle you aren't living in reality if you think otherwise. I have been on this band wagon from day one and NO RESPECT, I swear. We are a good team, not great, not close to winning a SB. We will need a lot of luck and no Faine just to get there. Sure YES we can get to the SB you I'll also use this disclaimer "because we are in the NFC".

10-29-2007, 05:05 PM	#35
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: So, Saints, you've just beaten the three worst teams in the NFL.... Originally Posted by mjf150 Have you ever heard of a "bad 2-0 team"? Records are not always indicative of how good a team is or isn't. Those two wins came against a Panthers team that finished 8-8 and a Tampa team who finished 4-12. We were a good 2-0 team, and they were a bad 2-0 team, and we proved that when the two went head-to-head. 2-0 bad team is called "surprise team". I can agree with you that records aren't an indication how good your team is based on schedule of opponets and football gods have to be looking in on ya from time to time. With this said you can see why we could say we over-achieved last year based on this arguement. We did look good against the 49ers but I'll agree lets keep this in perspective... its the 49ers, not the Pats. We might be the best 3-4 team out there but winning a SB is a bit of a reach.
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10-29-2007, 05:10 PM	#36
BlackHoleSlam Registered Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 40	Re: So, Saints, you've just beaten the three worst teams in the NFL.... Originally Posted by mjf150 BlackHoleSlam, the Saints are a good team, not great team, that played poorly in the first 4 games. Why are you arguing symantics? The Falcons were a bad team last year - period. They may have been 2-0 at the time, but there have been a few teams to start off a season 2-0 and not be good. Remember, you can be 2-0 and be lucky, instead of good. However, luck will eventually run out, but good teams continue to win. Are you a closet Falcons fan? LOL @ closet falcons fan. You are basing your statement on what the Falcons later became. Even after the Saints game, the Falcons still ended up starting 5-2. Meaning that nearly halfway into the season, they were still a viable threat in the division. Just because they went on a 4-game losing streak and eventually folded into dogcrap doesn't mean that they weren't a "good" team at the time that the Saints played them in the Superdome. The Saints started the 2002 season 6-1. During that season, they defeated Tampa Bay twice. Does that mean the Saints were never a good team during that season AT ANY POINT, since they "finished" by missing the playoffs?
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10-29-2007, 05:18 PM	#37
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	Re: So, Saints, you've just beaten the three worst teams in the NFL.... Originally Posted by Euphoria Yeah the Colts can beat the Pats and the Pats can beat the Colts but as for as anyone esle you aren't living in reality if you think otherwise. I have been on this band wagon from day one and NO RESPECT, I swear. We are a good team, not great, not close to winning a SB. We will need a lot of luck and no Faine just to get there. Sure YES we can get to the SB you I'll also use this disclaimer "because we are in the NFC". For a person who predicted we go 0-5... damn I sense some optimism in there. He said we were a good team! Someone look outside and tell me if pigs are flying. I can slowly see Euph chasing after the bus... someone stop and let him on.

10-29-2007, 05:20 PM	#38
saintsfan1313 El Mero Mero Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kingsville, Tx Posts: 669	Re: So, Saints, you've just beaten the three worst teams in the NFL.... winning the superbowl isnt out of reach....its week 8.....i dont think we've been elimated yet.....as far as i kno, no one has secured a playoff spot yet.....

10-29-2007, 05:22 PM	#40
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: So, Saints, you've just beaten the three worst teams in the NFL.... Originally Posted by papz For a person who predicted we go 0-5... damn I sense some optimism in there. He said we were a good team! Someone look outside and tell me if pigs are flying. I can slowly see Euph chasing after the bus... someone stop and let him on. Papz don't start this again... I didn't predict. I said if we go 0-5 here is why. Thats like saying your name is Papz so where the hell is my allowance?