Brees Takes Fans to Task for Booing Kicker

EJAMM · 11-09-2007, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

Uh, that's great and all but the guy is 6 for 12. Booing is part of the game whether Drew likes it or not. To give up a draft pick and pay Mare what we are paying to get this type of production, well, booing should be the least of Drew's concerns.

Maybe the Saints are not really paying for the current kicking production or rather lack of production. If his contract is performance based than Mare will see the lack of production in his paycheck. One can only hope, eh.

Budsdrinker · 11-09-2007, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by Cassady37

Sorry, if the numb-nuts kicker had a history of hitting consistently for us, it would be a different story. But as of yet, he hasn't proven we can rely on him for the clutch kick. And Payton holding onto him when other kickers are out there that can at least give a fresh perspective, is infuriating. I read somewhere Payton said after he made that last field goal, "ok, we're good now." Ummmm....what, were there not two other field goals missed? Sorry, I was the one pulling for him to miss the third one so it would force a change. O-well, when he misses for us in a BIG game, I don't want to hear all the whining about how we should have made a change.

The only thing I have to asked is what kickers out there are you referring to?
Gramatica? cut by Dallas for missing too many
Vanderjagt? also cut by Dallas for missing too many also missed a game winner against the Pats when playing for the Colts a couple of years ago.
All kickers go through this period. We had O'Brien because the 49'ers released him for missing too many. Than we got Carney because the Chargers cut him for missing too many.
The Texans have Kris Brown because the Steelers cut him some years ago for missing kicks. If you look at Morten Andersen's last year with the Saints he even missed more than he ever did before and then turned it around for the Falcons and rubbed our face in it. Just about all kickers go through this whether it's a problem with an unfamiliar holder or the kicker's mechanics it's just something they have to work out. Hopefully he can correct it quickly if not he won't be in a Saints uniform next year but like it or not we will be stuck with him the rest of the year so we might as well try to support him. Hopefully the offense will score more TD's and we don't have to worry about FG's.

exiled · 11-09-2007, 09:35 AM

I've always thought NOLA fans had a higher degree of class. Booing the guy is wrong any way you look at it.

before he even walks out on the field?

I have heard that kicking is 30% confidence.

Maybe if all kickers go through this - he'll snapp out of it soon and he'll have had his turn at a slump.

We need every weapon we can get right now.

andersen · 11-09-2007, 09:55 AM

Yeah, why don't we just starting booing him in pre-game warm ups. That's a big boost to his confidence. We are stuck with him (for now). It is our responsibility to take it on the chin this week and cheer this guy (untill he misses one).

JOESAM2002 · 11-09-2007, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

True. But he's all you have. Why boo him? Especially at home? Drew's right and it is counter productive anyway you slice it.

You wanna boo someone, it should be directed at the GM for letting this go on for as long as it has. I mean, lets face it: down by 2, with 3 secs left on the clock, Mare ain't my go to guy!

Agreed, on the booing of the GM but.......with everything else he's done lately, I'd sure enough hate to boo even him. Loomis, in my eyes has done a very good job in the last couple of years. I guess we could just stand up and give him a disclaimer before the boo. something like this.

Hey Micky, be aware that we are about to boo you. But we want you to know that we think you are doing a great job in all but one thing, so here we go...........BOOOOOOOOOOOO FOR SIGNING MARE! BOOOOOOOOO FOR SIGNING MARE! However yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh for everything else! LOL.

Sorry Lielung, I just had to have some fun with that one. I could just imagine the confusion in the dome if that happened. It would sound like a bunch of lawyers did it.

stockman311 · 11-09-2007, 03:04 PM

Good Lord. Is Mare that emotionally unstable that a little booing throws him off his game? Why not MAN UP, pop that ball through the uprights and give the old middle finger to the home crowd. Shut them up by PERFORMING.
What is he going to do come playoff time on another teams field when the boos are cascading with far more venom??? Probably piss himself and hook the ball into the cheerleaders on the sidelines would be my guess. Mare will kill us before this season is over. I'm telling you all this so you will be emotionally prepared. He is going to end our season and it's going to hurt all the more because we all saw it coming and the coaching staff did nothing to stop it.

phatoosdey · 11-10-2007, 12:40 AM

for those who boo, i boo you
booooooooooo!

hagan714 · 11-10-2007, 08:28 AM

Booing effect everyone. The point is why make matters worse as the home team. Simple and to the point. Do not look at this to deep. Either you can try to help the guy or not. What kind of fan are you? that is the question I put to you.

JOESAM2002 · 11-10-2007, 08:34 AM

I just had a great idea. We could all stand up and do a silent boo. You know, stand up and just open your mouth, and instead of booing, pour some beer down your throat. See, that's why I get the BIG money around here. Man, I come up with some great ideas! If some of you guys could think of things like that, you too could be jet set members. LOL. LOL. Where in the world do I get this stuff?????? LOL

I need more coffee!

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-10-2007, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by exiled

I've always thought NOLA fans had a higher degree of class. Booing the guy is wrong any way you look at it.

before he even walks out on the field?

Correct me if I'm wrong. The fans booed Mare when he came out for his second kick. He had already missed one, right?

Booing comes from frustration. You're talking about a fan base that had become used to Carney being automatic for so many years.

Frankly if Mare doesn't want to be booed, then he needs to do his job. AFAIC the only kick he gets a pass on this year is the 54 yarder for Carolina near the end of the game. He was hurt. It was long. We really needed him to make it, but the odds were against him. But all the rest of them are problematic.

I have heard that kicking is 30% confidence.

Maybe if all kickers go through this - he'll snapp out of it soon and he'll have had his turn at a slump.

We need every weapon we can get right now.

We need a kicker we can trust. How would you feel right now if the Saints needed a 48 yarder with no time left to win the game?

Not a real good feeling right now to me.

SFIAH

11-09-2007, 09:03 AM	#11
EJAMM Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 13	Re: Brees Takes Fans to Task for Booing Kicker Originally Posted by saintsmissile Uh, that's great and all but the guy is 6 for 12. Booing is part of the game whether Drew likes it or not. To give up a draft pick and pay Mare what we are paying to get this type of production, well, booing should be the least of Drew's concerns. Maybe the Saints are not really paying for the current kicking production or rather lack of production. If his contract is performance based than Mare will see the lack of production in his paycheck. One can only hope, eh.
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11-09-2007, 09:12 AM	#12
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Brees Takes Fans to Task for Booing Kicker Originally Posted by Cassady37 Sorry, if the numb-nuts kicker had a history of hitting consistently for us, it would be a different story. But as of yet, he hasn't proven we can rely on him for the clutch kick. And Payton holding onto him when other kickers are out there that can at least give a fresh perspective, is infuriating. I read somewhere Payton said after he made that last field goal, "ok, we're good now." Ummmm....what, were there not two other field goals missed? Sorry, I was the one pulling for him to miss the third one so it would force a change. O-well, when he misses for us in a BIG game, I don't want to hear all the whining about how we should have made a change. The only thing I have to asked is what kickers out there are you referring to? Gramatica? cut by Dallas for missing too many Vanderjagt? also cut by Dallas for missing too many also missed a game winner against the Pats when playing for the Colts a couple of years ago. All kickers go through this period. We had O'Brien because the 49'ers released him for missing too many. Than we got Carney because the Chargers cut him for missing too many. The Texans have Kris Brown because the Steelers cut him some years ago for missing kicks. If you look at Morten Andersen's last year with the Saints he even missed more than he ever did before and then turned it around for the Falcons and rubbed our face in it. Just about all kickers go through this whether it's a problem with an unfamiliar holder or the kicker's mechanics it's just something they have to work out. Hopefully he can correct it quickly if not he won't be in a Saints uniform next year but like it or not we will be stuck with him the rest of the year so we might as well try to support him. Hopefully the offense will score more TD's and we don't have to worry about FG's.

11-09-2007, 09:35 AM	#13
exiled Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: on the road - now based in Austin, TX Posts: 483	Re: Brees Takes Fans to Task for Booing Kicker I've always thought NOLA fans had a higher degree of class. Booing the guy is wrong any way you look at it. before he even walks out on the field? I have heard that kicking is 30% confidence. Maybe if all kickers go through this - he'll snapp out of it soon and he'll have had his turn at a slump. We need every weapon we can get right now.

11-09-2007, 09:55 AM	#14
andersen With an "E" Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Madisonville, LA Posts: 429	Re: Brees Takes Fans to Task for Booing Kicker Yeah, why don't we just starting booing him in pre-game warm ups. That's a big boost to his confidence. We are stuck with him (for now). It is our responsibility to take it on the chin this week and cheer this guy (untill he misses one).

11-09-2007, 10:02 AM	#15
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Brees Takes Fans to Task for Booing Kicker Originally Posted by leilung True. But he's all you have. Why boo him? Especially at home? Drew's right and it is counter productive anyway you slice it. You wanna boo someone, it should be directed at the GM for letting this go on for as long as it has. I mean, lets face it: down by 2, with 3 secs left on the clock, Mare ain't my go to guy! Agreed, on the booing of the GM but.......with everything else he's done lately, I'd sure enough hate to boo even him. Loomis, in my eyes has done a very good job in the last couple of years. I guess we could just stand up and give him a disclaimer before the boo. something like this. Hey Micky, be aware that we are about to boo you. But we want you to know that we think you are doing a great job in all but one thing, so here we go...........BOOOOOOOOOOOO FOR SIGNING MARE! BOOOOOOOOO FOR SIGNING MARE! However yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh for everything else! LOL. Sorry Lielung, I just had to have some fun with that one. I could just imagine the confusion in the dome if that happened. It would sound like a bunch of lawyers did it.
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11-09-2007, 03:04 PM	#16
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Brees Takes Fans to Task for Booing Kicker Good Lord. Is Mare that emotionally unstable that a little booing throws him off his game? Why not MAN UP, pop that ball through the uprights and give the old middle finger to the home crowd. Shut them up by PERFORMING. What is he going to do come playoff time on another teams field when the boos are cascading with far more venom??? Probably piss himself and hook the ball into the cheerleaders on the sidelines would be my guess. Mare will kill us before this season is over. I'm telling you all this so you will be emotionally prepared. He is going to end our season and it's going to hurt all the more because we all saw it coming and the coaching staff did nothing to stop it.

11-10-2007, 12:40 AM	#17
phatoosdey Drunkagen Join Date: May 2007 Location: kenner Posts: 356	Re: Brees Takes Fans to Task for Booing Kicker for those who boo, i boo you booooooooooo!

11-10-2007, 08:28 AM	#18
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Brees Takes Fans to Task for Booing Kicker Booing effect everyone. The point is why make matters worse as the home team. Simple and to the point. Do not look at this to deep. Either you can try to help the guy or not. What kind of fan are you? that is the question I put to you.

11-10-2007, 08:34 AM	#19
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Brees Takes Fans to Task for Booing Kicker I just had a great idea. We could all stand up and do a silent boo. You know, stand up and just open your mouth, and instead of booing, pour some beer down your throat. See, that's why I get the BIG money around here. Man, I come up with some great ideas! If some of you guys could think of things like that, you too could be jet set members. LOL. LOL. Where in the world do I get this stuff?????? LOL I need more coffee!

11-10-2007, 09:47 AM	#20
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Brees Takes Fans to Task for Booing Kicker Originally Posted by exiled I've always thought NOLA fans had a higher degree of class. Booing the guy is wrong any way you look at it. before he even walks out on the field? Correct me if I'm wrong. The fans booed Mare when he came out for his second kick. He had already missed one, right? Booing comes from frustration. You're talking about a fan base that had become used to Carney being automatic for so many years. Frankly if Mare doesn't want to be booed, then he needs to do his job. AFAIC the only kick he gets a pass on this year is the 54 yarder for Carolina near the end of the game. He was hurt. It was long. We really needed him to make it, but the odds were against him. But all the rest of them are problematic. I have heard that kicking is 30% confidence. Maybe if all kickers go through this - he'll snapp out of it soon and he'll have had his turn at a slump. We need every weapon we can get right now. We need a kicker we can trust. How would you feel right now if the Saints needed a 48 yarder with no time left to win the game? Not a real good feeling right now to me. SFIAH
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