Can We Run the Table?

leilung · 11-09-2007, 09:39 AM

Is it possible for this team to end this season by running the table with 8 straight wins?

Letâ€™s face it, the rest of our schedule (barring a few of these teams somehow catching fire), really doesnâ€™t field a bunch of NFL juggernauts. Our boys are currently ranked 6th (3rd in the NFC), with an offense that has miraculously gotten back in synch, and ranked 21st with a defense that has come to life, looking previously like it was on life support and about to have the plug pulled.

Our competition by overall Offense/ Defense rankings to date:
STL- 29/ 19
HOU- 11/ 15
CAR- 25/ 14
TB- 17/ 6
ATL- 27/ 18
ARI- 19/ 9
PHL- 9/ 12
CHI- 26/ 27

So tell me seriously, barring injuries to our boys, who of the above truly scares you?

biloxi-indian · 11-09-2007, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

Is it possible for this team to end this season by running the table with 8 straight wins?

Letâ€™s face it, the rest of our schedule (barring a few of these teams somehow catching fire), really doesnâ€™t field a bunch of NFL juggernauts. Our boys are currently ranked 6th (3rd in the NFC), with an offense that has miraculously gotten back in synch, and ranked 21st with a defense that has come to life, looking previously like it was on life support and about to have the plug pulled.

Our competition by overall Offense/ Defense rankings to date:
STL- 29/ 19
HOU- 11/ 15
CAR- 25/ 14
TB- 17/ 6
ATL- 27/ 18
ARI- 19/ 9
PHL- 9/ 12
CHI- 26/ 27

So tell me seriously, barring injuries to our boys, who of the above truly scares you?

ALL of them. On any given Sunday, no matter their rankings on offense or defense, they can beat you (even CHI)! One reason why I like Payton so much, focuses on one game at a time and doesn't appear to be looking ahead.

SapperSaint · 11-09-2007, 10:28 AM

STL- 29/ 19 My biggest worry.

HOU- 11/ 15 We should pull this one off. This will be a better team next year. My hats
off to them so far.

CAR- 25/ 14 Revenge time!!!

TB- 17/ 6 See remarks above!!!!

ATL- 27/ 18 Same ole' same ole'. We win.

ARI- 19/ 9 Worried but not scaried.

PHL- 9/ 12 Always have to worry about this game.

CHI- 26/ 27 Toss up game, really don't know, even though we should win.

Record for this run: 7-1

JOESAM2002 · 11-09-2007, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian

ALL of them. On any given Sunday, no matter their rankings on offense or defense, they can beat you (even CHI)! One reason why I like Payton so much, focuses on one game at a time and doesn't appear to be looking ahead.

So very true. Plus, he demands that the team do the same thing. One at a time. You have to win the first one before you can win the second.
I really do like Payton, but I am still amazed that he still keeps Mare. Seems to me that with the way he likes winning, he'd be able to see that one of these days, Mare is going to cost us a game. At least, that's what I see.

WhoDat205 · 11-09-2007, 10:40 AM

Yeah, I made a harsh post about coach earlier this year that I now regret. I still think he acts like a sorority girl sometime (see 2006 season grave, empty band wagon, multiple injuries at the waterpark and the mousetraps), but if it works, it's cool with me. The important stuff like keeping an 0-4 team motivated and cohesive, preparing effective game plans and (mostly) good personnel moves seem to be his strong points, so I'll cut him some slack on the theatrics.

JOESAM2002 · 11-09-2007, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

Yeah, I made a harsh post about coach earlier this year that I now regret. I still think he acts like a sorority girl sometime (see 2006 season grave, empty band wagon, multiple injuries at the waterpark and the mousetraps), but if it works, it's cool with me. The important stuff like keeping an 0-4 team motivated and cohesive, preparing effective game plans and (mostly) good personnel moves seem to be his strong points, so I'll cut him some slack on the theatrics.

If and when he comes out dressed like Little Bo Peep, then i'll really start to worry.

leilung · 11-09-2007, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian

ALL of them. On any given Sunday, no matter their rankings on offense or defense, they can beat you (even CHI)! One reason why I like Payton so much, focuses on one game at a time and doesn't appear to be looking ahead.

To clear that up, as a long suffering Saint fan I know that you always need to look out for the game you SHOULD win. This is the NFL and in the words of Chris Berman, "Its why they play the game."

That being said, All of the teams left in our schedule are very beatable, unlike in other years when it seems like we are faced with a monumental task to somehow squeak out a win.

7-1 (room for someone else to step up their game) seems doable.

LordOfEntropy · 11-09-2007, 11:22 AM

The Tampa game scares me the most. If there's one game left on the schedule that we absolutely CANNOT afford to lose, it's the TB game. Looking at what's left of their schedule, I think it's even easier than ours.

Regarding Mare, absolutely. I cannot understand why he's still on the team. The only possible reason I can think of is that coach has even less confidence in the kickers that are available. And the only good thing I see in it? - we'll go for the TD rather than the FG almost every time.

I've got to give Mare credit for that onsides kick against JAX though. Absolutely perfect execution.

JOESAM2002 · 11-09-2007, 11:26 AM

"I've got to give him credit for that onsides kick against JAX though. Absolutely perfect execution."

I have to agree with this but, i'm not sure that the timing of the kick (when it was used) was more important than the kick itself. No one was expecting it at that time.

biloxi-indian · 11-09-2007, 11:38 AM

Bear with me...here is a quote from another board;

"Payton on Mare: (from the Bayou Buzz article on the front page): "Sean Payton says he hasn't given up on his kicker Olindo Mare yet because the field goal attempts he has missed on were from far out and his kickoffs are acceptable."

That inspired me to dig up his kicks from NFL.com:

Week 1, Indianapolis (1/2)
52 yards, no good (wide left)
34 yards, good

Week 2, Tampa Bay (0/1)
38 yards, no good (wide left)

Week 5, Carolina (2/4)
25 yards, good
28 yards, good
20 yards, no good (blocked)
54 yards, no good (wide left)

Week 8, San Francisco (1/1)
26 yards, good

Week 9, Jacksonville (2/4)
46 yards, good
43 yards, no good (wide right)
52 yards, no good (wide right)
34 yards, good

Total (6/12)
made: 25, 26, 28, 34, 34, 46
missed: 38, 43, 52, 52, 54
blocked: 20

Obviously he needs to make the long ones at a better rate, but there was that groin injury. He was fine last season, so with any luck his long accuracy will return. At least he's 100% for 35 yards and less (not counting the block)."

So, he did not hit three from outside 50 yds and only two from 38 and 43 while suffering from a groin injury. The 20 yd was also due to the injury. I think Payton is looking at the stats and believes there is nothing better out there given Mare's ability to kick deep on kickoffs! Secondarily, I do not believe Payton wants to take up a spot on the roster for an additional kicker! He did that last year and I think he regrets it! All IMHO.

11-09-2007, 09:39 AM	#1
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,373	Can We Run the Table? Is it possible for this team to end this season by running the table with 8 straight wins? Letâ€™s face it, the rest of our schedule (barring a few of these teams somehow catching fire), really doesnâ€™t field a bunch of NFL juggernauts. Our boys are currently ranked 6th (3rd in the NFC), with an offense that has miraculously gotten back in synch, and ranked 21st with a defense that has come to life, looking previously like it was on life support and about to have the plug pulled. Our competition by overall Offense/ Defense rankings to date: STL- 29/ 19 HOU- 11/ 15 CAR- 25/ 14 TB- 17/ 6 ATL- 27/ 18 ARI- 19/ 9 PHL- 9/ 12 CHI- 26/ 27 So tell me seriously, barring injuries to our boys, who of the above truly scares you?
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11-09-2007, 09:49 AM	#2
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: Can We Run the Table? Originally Posted by leilung Is it possible for this team to end this season by running the table with 8 straight wins? Letâ€™s face it, the rest of our schedule (barring a few of these teams somehow catching fire), really doesnâ€™t field a bunch of NFL juggernauts. Our boys are currently ranked 6th (3rd in the NFC), with an offense that has miraculously gotten back in synch, and ranked 21st with a defense that has come to life, looking previously like it was on life support and about to have the plug pulled. Our competition by overall Offense/ Defense rankings to date: STL- 29/ 19 HOU- 11/ 15 CAR- 25/ 14 TB- 17/ 6 ATL- 27/ 18 ARI- 19/ 9 PHL- 9/ 12 CHI- 26/ 27 So tell me seriously, barring injuries to our boys, who of the above truly scares you? ALL of them. On any given Sunday, no matter their rankings on offense or defense, they can beat you (even CHI)! One reason why I like Payton so much, focuses on one game at a time and doesn't appear to be looking ahead.

11-09-2007, 10:28 AM	#3
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Can We Run the Table? STL- 29/ 19 My biggest worry. HOU- 11/ 15 We should pull this one off. This will be a better team next year. My hats off to them so far. CAR- 25/ 14 Revenge time!!! TB- 17/ 6 See remarks above!!!! ATL- 27/ 18 Same ole' same ole'. We win. ARI- 19/ 9 Worried but not scaried. PHL- 9/ 12 Always have to worry about this game. CHI- 26/ 27 Toss up game, really don't know, even though we should win. Record for this run: 7-1

11-09-2007, 10:30 AM	#4
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Can We Run the Table? Originally Posted by biloxi-indian ALL of them. On any given Sunday, no matter their rankings on offense or defense, they can beat you (even CHI)! One reason why I like Payton so much, focuses on one game at a time and doesn't appear to be looking ahead. So very true. Plus, he demands that the team do the same thing. One at a time. You have to win the first one before you can win the second. I really do like Payton, but I am still amazed that he still keeps Mare. Seems to me that with the way he likes winning, he'd be able to see that one of these days, Mare is going to cost us a game. At least, that's what I see.

11-09-2007, 10:40 AM	#5
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Can We Run the Table? Yeah, I made a harsh post about coach earlier this year that I now regret. I still think he acts like a sorority girl sometime (see 2006 season grave, empty band wagon, multiple injuries at the waterpark and the mousetraps), but if it works, it's cool with me. The important stuff like keeping an 0-4 team motivated and cohesive, preparing effective game plans and (mostly) good personnel moves seem to be his strong points, so I'll cut him some slack on the theatrics.

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11-09-2007, 10:42 AM	#6
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Can We Run the Table? Originally Posted by WhoDat205 Yeah, I made a harsh post about coach earlier this year that I now regret. I still think he acts like a sorority girl sometime (see 2006 season grave, empty band wagon, multiple injuries at the waterpark and the mousetraps), but if it works, it's cool with me. The important stuff like keeping an 0-4 team motivated and cohesive, preparing effective game plans and (mostly) good personnel moves seem to be his strong points, so I'll cut him some slack on the theatrics. If and when he comes out dressed like Little Bo Peep, then i'll really start to worry.

11-09-2007, 11:19 AM	#7
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,373	Re: Can We Run the Table? Originally Posted by biloxi-indian ALL of them. On any given Sunday, no matter their rankings on offense or defense, they can beat you (even CHI)! One reason why I like Payton so much, focuses on one game at a time and doesn't appear to be looking ahead. To clear that up, as a long suffering Saint fan I know that you always need to look out for the game you SHOULD win. This is the NFL and in the words of Chris Berman, "Its why they play the game." That being said, All of the teams left in our schedule are very beatable, unlike in other years when it seems like we are faced with a monumental task to somehow squeak out a win. 7-1 (room for someone else to step up their game) seems doable.

11-09-2007, 11:22 AM	#8
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: Can We Run the Table? The Tampa game scares me the most. If there's one game left on the schedule that we absolutely CANNOT afford to lose, it's the TB game. Looking at what's left of their schedule, I think it's even easier than ours. Regarding Mare, absolutely. I cannot understand why he's still on the team. The only possible reason I can think of is that coach has even less confidence in the kickers that are available. And the only good thing I see in it? - we'll go for the TD rather than the FG almost every time. I've got to give Mare credit for that onsides kick against JAX though. Absolutely perfect execution.
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11-09-2007, 11:26 AM	#9
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Can We Run the Table? "I've got to give him credit for that onsides kick against JAX though. Absolutely perfect execution." I have to agree with this but, i'm not sure that the timing of the kick (when it was used) was more important than the kick itself. No one was expecting it at that time.

11-09-2007, 11:38 AM	#10
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: Can We Run the Table? Bear with me...here is a quote from another board; "Payton on Mare: (from the Bayou Buzz article on the front page): "Sean Payton says he hasn't given up on his kicker Olindo Mare yet because the field goal attempts he has missed on were from far out and his kickoffs are acceptable." That inspired me to dig up his kicks from NFL.com: Week 1, Indianapolis (1/2) 52 yards, no good (wide left) 34 yards, good Week 2, Tampa Bay (0/1) 38 yards, no good (wide left) Week 5, Carolina (2/4) 25 yards, good 28 yards, good 20 yards, no good (blocked) 54 yards, no good (wide left) Week 8, San Francisco (1/1) 26 yards, good Week 9, Jacksonville (2/4) 46 yards, good 43 yards, no good (wide right) 52 yards, no good (wide right) 34 yards, good Total (6/12) made: 25, 26, 28, 34, 34, 46 missed: 38, 43, 52, 52, 54 blocked: 20 Obviously he needs to make the long ones at a better rate, but there was that groin injury. He was fine last season, so with any luck his long accuracy will return. At least he's 100% for 35 yards and less (not counting the block)." So, he did not hit three from outside 50 yds and only two from 38 and 43 while suffering from a groin injury. The 20 yd was also due to the injury. I think Payton is looking at the stats and believes there is nothing better out there given Mare's ability to kick deep on kickoffs! Secondarily, I do not believe Payton wants to take up a spot on the roster for an additional kicker! He did that last year and I think he regrets it! All IMHO.
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