Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture?

JOESAM2002 · 11-10-2007, 08:50 AM

One other thing that some might have missed is that lately a good number of his kickoffs haven't made it to the endzone. So does that make him worth less?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-10-2007, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by JOESAM2002

One other thing that some might have missed is that lately a good number of his kickoffs haven't made it to the endzone. So does that make him worth less?

Absolutely. Carney was ditched because he couldn't put kickoffs in the endzone and couldn't make long field goals accurately. So we ended up carrying two kickers on the roster at the end of last season.

Mare was supposed to be the cure for these ills. He has led the league in touchbacks for at least a couple of years and has been a rather accurate kicker in Miami. The thought must have been that he could use a single roster slot, put the ball in the endzone, and be available for those 50+ yard kicks that Carney simply did not have the leg for.

But...

Dude hasn't panned out. There was a minimum of a 13 point swing in last week's game due to Mare. Carolina was a disaster. There's no trust.

How long do we carry the guy before the team really gets burned by him?

SFIAH

JOESAM2002 · 11-10-2007, 03:36 PM

Oh, you can bet it'll happen. Sooner rather than later in my mind. I hate to see it, but it's coming.

QBREES9 · 11-09-2007, 09:49 PM

I hope you're right, but coach Payton did sound like he was giving up on Mare. Boy do I want Carney Back

exiled · 11-10-2007, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

I hope you're right, but coach Payton did sound like he was giving up on Mare. Boy do I want Carney Back

He used the word "yet" in his quote. I am not giving up on him "Yet" which sounds like there is a point out there in the foreseeable future that he 'will have given up.'

I am ways liked carney.
after the "river city relay" he could have lost confidence. gotten into his own head. maybe even "Should have" gotten into his head. I would have.

he didn't.he came back and his accuracy for the next few years was every thing you look for.

hagan714 · 11-10-2007, 07:24 AM

Nope he will not be cut. He will do the kickoffs and maybe split the FG duties if anything happens. Say hello to two kicker again this year if it happens

graywolfkris · 11-10-2007, 03:40 PM

Please bring Carney back!

QBREES9 · 11-10-2007, 09:47 PM

—QB Drew Brees said he threw his arms in the air in support of K Olindo Mare on Sunday as fans booed when Mare trotted onto the field and missed a 52-yard field goal just before halftime against the Jags.

Fans were frustrated because Mare, who is just 6-for-12 this season, had missed a 43-yard attempt seconds earlier. Brees said he simply was urging fans to be more supportive of Mare.

"I was saying, 'Support him,'" Brees said Wednesday. "We all have rough times, and the guy's had some rough times. So support him. You know, cheer for him.

"If you want him to make the kick, then make him feel good about it. Don't make him feel like everybody's booing him and, 'If I miss, they're going to boo even louder.' Support the guy, that's what I was saying."

—The surging Saints will be going after their fifth consecutive win — which would equal the fourth-longest winning streak in club history — when they face the winless Rams in the Superdome on Sunday.

If Drew is behind so am I

11-10-2007, 08:50 AM	#1
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? One other thing that some might have missed is that lately a good number of his kickoffs haven't made it to the endzone. So does that make him worth less?

11-10-2007, 02:57 PM	#2
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 One other thing that some might have missed is that lately a good number of his kickoffs haven't made it to the endzone. So does that make him worth less? Absolutely. Carney was ditched because he couldn't put kickoffs in the endzone and couldn't make long field goals accurately. So we ended up carrying two kickers on the roster at the end of last season. Mare was supposed to be the cure for these ills. He has led the league in touchbacks for at least a couple of years and has been a rather accurate kicker in Miami. The thought must have been that he could use a single roster slot, put the ball in the endzone, and be available for those 50+ yard kicks that Carney simply did not have the leg for. But... Dude hasn't panned out. There was a minimum of a 13 point swing in last week's game due to Mare. Carolina was a disaster. There's no trust. How long do we carry the guy before the team really gets burned by him? SFIAH
	Super Bowl Championships: New Orleans Saints:1, Carolina:0, Atlanta Chokers: STILL ZERO Only Atlanta choked in an unchokable situation... Life is definitely good.

11-10-2007, 03:36 PM	#3
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? Oh, you can bet it'll happen. Sooner rather than later in my mind. I hate to see it, but it's coming.

11-09-2007, 09:49 PM	#4
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? I hope you're right, but coach Payton did sound like he was giving up on Mare. Boy do I want Carney Back

11-10-2007, 06:13 AM	#5
exiled Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: on the road - now based in Austin, TX Posts: 486	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? Originally Posted by QBREES9 I hope you're right, but coach Payton did sound like he was giving up on Mare. Boy do I want Carney Back He used the word "yet" in his quote. I am not giving up on him "Yet" which sounds like there is a point out there in the foreseeable future that he 'will have given up.' I am ways liked carney. after the "river city relay" he could have lost confidence. gotten into his own head. maybe even "Should have" gotten into his head. I would have. he didn't.he came back and his accuracy for the next few years was every thing you look for.

11-10-2007, 07:24 AM	#6
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? Nope he will not be cut. He will do the kickoffs and maybe split the FG duties if anything happens. Say hello to two kicker again this year if it happens

11-10-2007, 03:40 PM	#7
graywolfkris Registered Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Conehatta, MS Posts: 30	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? Please bring Carney back!

11-10-2007, 09:47 PM	#8
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? —QB Drew Brees said he threw his arms in the air in support of K Olindo Mare on Sunday as fans booed when Mare trotted onto the field and missed a 52-yard field goal just before halftime against the Jags. Fans were frustrated because Mare, who is just 6-for-12 this season, had missed a 43-yard attempt seconds earlier. Brees said he simply was urging fans to be more supportive of Mare. "I was saying, 'Support him,'" Brees said Wednesday. "We all have rough times, and the guy's had some rough times. So support him. You know, cheer for him. "If you want him to make the kick, then make him feel good about it. Don't make him feel like everybody's booing him and, 'If I miss, they're going to boo even louder.' Support the guy, that's what I was saying." —The surging Saints will be going after their fifth consecutive win — which would equal the fourth-longest winning streak in club history — when they face the winless Rams in the Superdome on Sunday. If Drew is behind so am I

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