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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper I'm not disagreeing with you on Bullocks, but you cannot train the safeties to just drop back in support at any cost, because that cost is having the middle of the field open. That was my ...
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Re: It's not all on Jason David
Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper
You're right, you can't give saftey support on every play, but I have yet to see a saftey make a play on a single deep ball. These guys (Harper and Bullocks) have one int between them and honestly, I could have made that catch that Bullocks made. That ball probably would have been a intentional grounding call if it were incomplete, which begs the question, what was he doing there?![]()
My main point is that regardless of how terrible Jason David is, there are two decent players in our entire defensive back 7. There's plenty of blame to go around. David's screw ups are highly visible - everyone sees that #42 fultilely running after the reciver, but Simoneau, for example, is tougher to evaluate because his screw ups are harder to see during a live broadcast. |
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Re: It's not all on Jason David
"but Simoneau, for example, is tougher to evaluate because his screw ups are harder to see during a live broadcast."
Maybe for most, this is true but I see them, having played a bit of MLB. He does get trapped quite a bit and is caught in the melee a good bit. He's not a starter in my books either. But neither was I to some. I just stuck my nose where I thought it should be. I was slow by all descriptions But was rarely out of place. I wasn't afraid to place myself anywhere, hence the physical condition I'm in now. $ knee operations,9 bad discs. Any various aand sundry other things we won't go into. But Simomeau is the best we have right now. He's not great, but by the same token he ain't terrible either. I have seen worse with the Saints. Don't ask me to name them right now cause I can't. I just feel,he gave up one touchdown this week to a tightend, but David has given up a multitude of touchdowns this season. |
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Re: It's not all on Jason David
Originally Posted by WhoDat205
… and I agree with you, there is plenty of blame to go around. ![]()
And Simoneau isn’t Singletary, no question. But it is not that 3rd Down’s mistakes are more visible, sure they are, but how often they come, and how devastating they are to any momentum the team can amass. At least Simoneau is in the middle of the play; he may get pushed around, but at least he’s there. But every time you see that #42 running 10 yards behind a streaking Andre Johnson or Joey Galloway or Terry Holt or whoever happens to be on that side of the field for a long TD or a long 3rd down conversion, you ask yourself, who or what the hell was David covering? … and I guess as long as I’m piling it on 3rd Down, I need to pile it on the coaching staff for allowing this to happen. Try Jason Craft, or Fred Thomas. Heck, try Lance Moore at CB. Can’t get any worst than it is now, that’s for sure… |
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