not paytons fault on reverse

Supes · 12-03-2007, 10:18 AM

sure it probably shouldn't have been run but
sure it probably should've been stecker on the reverse since reggie this year cant catch or pitch this year
we've seen this play work before
it was all execution
i've seen the replay a million times and tampa totally bought that reggie was going to run to the outside and if reggie would've gotten the ball to Henderson
Henderson would've had nothing but daylight ahead of him
if reggie would've gotten the ball to henderson everyone would be calling Payton a genius today instead of calling for his job
i know we want to win and we want to when now but the coach cant execute the play himself, and aren't we in a rebuilding phase now
i mean really why were our expectations so high, because they did so well last year? but they shouldn't have done that well last year we were lucky in a lot of games last year
reallistically year two of a rebuild shouldn't we expect 7-9 and that would be with a healthy deuce without we should have expected 5-11 not 12-4 like most people were expecting.i mean our team has a coach that is still learning, and a lot of players that are learning.reallistically we shouldn't have a expected a to win a division title or playoff game until at least year 3 of the regime
all i am saying is be REALISTIC we are starting to sound like ALABAMBA fans calling for jobs so soon in a new regime
just like when Bama lost to Mississippi State,LA-Monroe,then god forbid they lose to Auburn; Bama fans were calling for firing Saban saying he was no better than Shula. now who does that sound like. Sounds like some posts i've read on a lotta boards. people saying FIRE Payton, he's HAZ part two
he's not Mike Martz he's not Haz, he shouldn't be Fired, we shouldn't have expected so much so soon. now if by end of year four we haven't won more playoff games or the division, then i'd be on the that bandwagon of getting rid of payton. But we do have to give the man time to learn, get his players in,build his team,rebuild our team

AllSaints · 12-03-2007, 10:21 AM

Coaching lost us that game.... dont blame reggie....

Dan the Man · 12-03-2007, 10:23 AM

I agree that calling for Payton to be fired is going way too far, but it was his fault. Yeah, it was a poorly executed play...but it shouldn't have been executed at all.

LongTimeFan · 12-03-2007, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by Dan the Man

I agree that calling for Payton to be fired is going way too far, but it was his fault. Yeah, it was a poorly executed play...but it shouldn't have been executed at all.

Wanting Sean fired right now is very premature, yes he called a play that didn't work but more important was the timing.
Payton will be OK, I wouldn't trade hire anyone over him right now, let's give him a couple of more years to show us what kind of coach he is.

QBREES9 · 12-03-2007, 10:35 AM

The play should have never been call. NO you don't fire coach Payton. Hey Carolina did it right in there game.

Supes · 12-03-2007, 10:37 AM

well Bush shouldn't have been just Reggie being blamed
if Jamal Brown would've held his position instead of being pushed back Reggie and Devery's being out of sync because Reggie almost ran into the back of Brown, and so he tried to toss it (albeit poorly) instead of handing it off to Henderson
If reggie was "great" like a lot of a lot of us think then cut it up or head out of bounds as he saw the play blowing up instead of improving by tossing the ball half heartedly

papz · 12-03-2007, 10:45 AM

Wrong time in the game to be calling that type of play. I believe afterwards Payton even said it was bad call. Had that play been executed, we still would have lost over 5 yards on the play. They had it covered well on both sides.

With the big holes the line were making throughout the game right up the middle, we should have ran it up the gut. Oh well.

choupique01 · 12-03-2007, 11:39 AM

It is how we find a way to loose that is so discouraging. Sometimes it's the players, sometimes, like today, it's the coach. If I see another false start penalty I am going to kill my television.

How can you play a third string quarterback and have him go 15 for 15 passing??

What if we had started our second string quarterback, what would it have been like??

Lots of questions and no answers.

Papa Voodoo · 12-03-2007, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Wrong time in the game to be calling that type of play. I believe afterwards Payton even said it was bad call. Had that play been executed, we still would have lost over 5 yards on the play. They had it covered well on both sides.

With the big holes the line were making throughout the game right up the middle, we should have ran it up the gut. Oh well.

DING DING DING...We have ourselves a winner.

Tobias-Reiper · 12-03-2007, 05:36 PM

.. not only was it the wrong play at the wrong time, but Bush was clearly hobbling. He should not have been on the field.

12-03-2007, 10:18 AM	#1
Supes 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 126	not paytons fault on reverse sure it probably shouldn't have been run but sure it probably should've been stecker on the reverse since reggie this year cant catch or pitch this year we've seen this play work before it was all execution i've seen the replay a million times and tampa totally bought that reggie was going to run to the outside and if reggie would've gotten the ball to Henderson Henderson would've had nothing but daylight ahead of him if reggie would've gotten the ball to henderson everyone would be calling Payton a genius today instead of calling for his job i know we want to win and we want to when now but the coach cant execute the play himself, and aren't we in a rebuilding phase now i mean really why were our expectations so high, because they did so well last year? but they shouldn't have done that well last year we were lucky in a lot of games last year reallistically year two of a rebuild shouldn't we expect 7-9 and that would be with a healthy deuce without we should have expected 5-11 not 12-4 like most people were expecting.i mean our team has a coach that is still learning, and a lot of players that are learning.reallistically we shouldn't have a expected a to win a division title or playoff game until at least year 3 of the regime all i am saying is be REALISTIC we are starting to sound like ALABAMBA fans calling for jobs so soon in a new regime just like when Bama lost to Mississippi State,LA-Monroe,then god forbid they lose to Auburn; Bama fans were calling for firing Saban saying he was no better than Shula. now who does that sound like. Sounds like some posts i've read on a lotta boards. people saying FIRE Payton, he's HAZ part two he's not Mike Martz he's not Haz, he shouldn't be Fired, we shouldn't have expected so much so soon. now if by end of year four we haven't won more playoff games or the division, then i'd be on the that bandwagon of getting rid of payton. But we do have to give the man time to learn, get his players in,build his team,rebuild our team
Supes 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 126

12-03-2007, 10:21 AM	#2
AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	Re: not paytons fault on reverse Coaching lost us that game.... dont blame reggie....

12-03-2007, 10:23 AM	#3
Dan the Man Registered Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New Orleans Posts: 87	Re: not paytons fault on reverse I agree that calling for Payton to be fired is going way too far, but it was his fault. Yeah, it was a poorly executed play...but it shouldn't have been executed at all.

12-03-2007, 07:40 PM	#4
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Re: not paytons fault on reverse Originally Posted by Dan the Man I agree that calling for Payton to be fired is going way too far, but it was his fault. Yeah, it was a poorly executed play...but it shouldn't have been executed at all. Wanting Sean fired right now is very premature, yes he called a play that didn't work but more important was the timing. Payton will be OK, I wouldn't trade hire anyone over him right now, let's give him a couple of more years to show us what kind of coach he is.

12-03-2007, 10:35 AM	#5
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	Re: not paytons fault on reverse The play should have never been call. NO you don't fire coach Payton. Hey Carolina did it right in there game.

12-03-2007, 10:37 AM	#6
Supes 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 126	Re: not paytons fault on reverse well Bush shouldn't have been just Reggie being blamed if Jamal Brown would've held his position instead of being pushed back Reggie and Devery's being out of sync because Reggie almost ran into the back of Brown, and so he tried to toss it (albeit poorly) instead of handing it off to Henderson If reggie was "great" like a lot of a lot of us think then cut it up or head out of bounds as he saw the play blowing up instead of improving by tossing the ball half heartedly
Supes 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 126

12-03-2007, 10:45 AM	#7
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: not paytons fault on reverse Wrong time in the game to be calling that type of play. I believe afterwards Payton even said it was bad call. Had that play been executed, we still would have lost over 5 yards on the play. They had it covered well on both sides. With the big holes the line were making throughout the game right up the middle, we should have ran it up the gut. Oh well.

12-03-2007, 11:39 AM	#8
choupique01 Rookie Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5	Re: not paytons fault on reverse It is how we find a way to loose that is so discouraging. Sometimes it's the players, sometimes, like today, it's the coach. If I see another false start penalty I am going to kill my television. How can you play a third string quarterback and have him go 15 for 15 passing?? What if we had started our second string quarterback, what would it have been like?? Lots of questions and no answers.
choupique01 Rookie Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5

12-03-2007, 01:57 PM	#9
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: not paytons fault on reverse Originally Posted by papz Wrong time in the game to be calling that type of play. I believe afterwards Payton even said it was bad call. Had that play been executed, we still would have lost over 5 yards on the play. They had it covered well on both sides. With the big holes the line were making throughout the game right up the middle, we should have ran it up the gut. Oh well. DING DING DING...We have ourselves a winner.

12-03-2007, 05:36 PM	#10
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: not paytons fault on reverse .. not only was it the wrong play at the wrong time, but Bush was clearly hobbling. He should not have been on the field.