Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson

CheramieIII · 12-08-2007, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by JOESAM2002

I'll say it again, reggie isn't being used right. He did great with Deuce in the backfield with him because there was another threat back there. Reggie performs better in a 2 back back field. Put Pierre and Reggie in the backfield at the same time you have the same concept. Who are you going to watch? There would be so many things you could do with that.

What he said!

hagan714 · 12-06-2007, 05:16 AM

once again you have to compare the OL. The vikings had a good OL for running before AP was drafted. Now as far as pass protection goes they leave alot to be desired. We are close, I tell you, to having an OL that can do both. one maybe two pieces away from it. The combination of Brown and Evans could be just as good as Hutchinson and McKinnie are for the Vikings.

WhoDat205 · 12-06-2007, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

once again you have to compare the OL. The vikings had a good OL for running before AP was drafted. Now as far as pass protection goes they leave alot to be desired. We are close, I tell you, to having an OL that can do both. one maybe two pieces away from it. The combination of Brown and Evans could be just as good as Hutchinson and McKinnie are for the Vikings.

I want Faneca on this team so bad.

I'm terrible when it comes to evaluating offensive linemen, mainly because I follow the ball, but I'd love to hear you guys' thoughts on Strief as a LT. He always seemed to be solid at worst. I feel like Brown and Evans on the right would be fomidable, and if you put Faneca on at LG with whoever at LT, you should be able to run the dang ball.

Donuts32 · 12-06-2007, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

And how long did it take AP to adjust and break the NFL single-game rushing record? I was happy for a time about getting to draft Reggie, but now I see how blinded even *I* was by the almighty ESPN hype-machine. Bush is a bust (as far as RB is concerned). He can't even catch lately, so I wouldn't even consider him a "great" passing threat either.

Thanks again almighty ESPN hype machine, for draining the meaning and INTEGRITY straight out of professional sports (and slowly but surely college athletics as well).

4 million dollars per year for a college head coach. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? No WONDER I can't even afford an education anymore!

Fed up in Louisiana (with big name sports),

willmac

This is kinda unfair to Reggie. Vikings OL is way better than ours. They make better lanes for Adrian Peterson to run through. If Reggie had those kind of running lanes he would be breaking records.

choupique01 · 12-06-2007, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Donuts32

This is kinda unfair to Reggie. Vikings OL is way better than ours. They make better lanes for Adrian Peterson to run through. If Reggie had those kind of running lanes he would be breaking records.

They are completely different runners. Reggie is not a power back and never will be, but he is extremely elusive in the open field and needs a big back in with him like we used last year with Deuce. He is an excellent decoy IF there is another threat in there. which we don't have this year after Duec's injury.

MatthewT · 12-06-2007, 04:28 PM

The main thing that is disturbing about Reggie is he looks worn out. I agree that he also needs to be coached better as a RB. Hopefully next year he can return to the roll he had in 2006. The Saints really need to get another RB to compliment him, one who can get those 4 yard runs consistently, and a RB who can stand up to the pounding of a 25-30 carry type of game.

hagan714 · 12-06-2007, 09:00 PM

oh god we have an impostor. but great minds think alike.

BoudinSandwich · 12-07-2007, 03:59 AM

Offensive Schemes have a lot to do with it. Sean Payton abandoned focus on an adequate running game for half of his tenure as a head coach.

According to Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com):

Minnesota has rushed 377 times for 2,122 yards and 17 Touchdowns
Minnesota has attempted to pass 306 times for 2,131 yards and 8 Touchdowns

New Orleans has rushed 292 times for 1,032 yards and 10 Touchdowns
New Orleans has attempted to pass 479 times for 3,176 yards, and 20 Touchdowns

It's two totally different offenses. Plus, When Adrian Peterson was out, Chester Taylor continued the dominance at Running Back. It's not like Adrian Peterson was making their running game a success, he was just making it more of one.

Champ Kind · 12-07-2007, 07:37 PM

To the comment WillMcKenzie made.

I think PT is good, but take away that one, touchdown run and he has a 3.0 yrds/carry average.

I think Reggie has done mostly what the coaches expect out of him. It's the media and the fans who have over-hyped him.

hagan714 · 12-08-2007, 05:57 AM

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Nobody is avoiding the issue. But if you are going to go in the direction I think you are going to go. I strongly urge you to go to the ultimate smack down section of B&G. You are not the first to bring this topic up. That is were it belongs. You will get plenty response there.

12-08-2007, 10:02 AM	#1
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,496 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 I'll say it again, reggie isn't being used right. He did great with Deuce in the backfield with him because there was another threat back there. Reggie performs better in a 2 back back field. Put Pierre and Reggie in the backfield at the same time you have the same concept. Who are you going to watch? There would be so many things you could do with that. What he said!

12-06-2007, 05:16 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson once again you have to compare the OL. The vikings had a good OL for running before AP was drafted. Now as far as pass protection goes they leave alot to be desired. We are close, I tell you, to having an OL that can do both. one maybe two pieces away from it. The combination of Brown and Evans could be just as good as Hutchinson and McKinnie are for the Vikings.
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12-06-2007, 08:37 AM	#3
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson Originally Posted by hagan714 once again you have to compare the OL. The vikings had a good OL for running before AP was drafted. Now as far as pass protection goes they leave alot to be desired. We are close, I tell you, to having an OL that can do both. one maybe two pieces away from it. The combination of Brown and Evans could be just as good as Hutchinson and McKinnie are for the Vikings. I want Faneca on this team so bad. I'm terrible when it comes to evaluating offensive linemen, mainly because I follow the ball, but I'd love to hear you guys' thoughts on Strief as a LT. He always seemed to be solid at worst. I feel like Brown and Evans on the right would be fomidable, and if you put Faneca on at LG with whoever at LT, you should be able to run the dang ball.

12-06-2007, 10:04 AM	#4
Donuts32 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Orleans,La Posts: 306	Re: Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie And how long did it take AP to adjust and break the NFL single-game rushing record? I was happy for a time about getting to draft Reggie, but now I see how blinded even I was by the almighty ESPN hype-machine. Bush is a bust (as far as RB is concerned). He can't even catch lately, so I wouldn't even consider him a "great" passing threat either. Thanks again almighty ESPN hype machine, for draining the meaning and INTEGRITY straight out of professional sports (and slowly but surely college athletics as well). 4 million dollars per year for a college head coach. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? No WONDER I can't even afford an education anymore! Fed up in Louisiana (with big name sports), willmac This is kinda unfair to Reggie. Vikings OL is way better than ours. They make better lanes for Adrian Peterson to run through. If Reggie had those kind of running lanes he would be breaking records.

12-06-2007, 10:27 AM	#5
choupique01 Rookie Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5	Re: Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson Originally Posted by Donuts32 This is kinda unfair to Reggie. Vikings OL is way better than ours. They make better lanes for Adrian Peterson to run through. If Reggie had those kind of running lanes he would be breaking records. They are completely different runners. Reggie is not a power back and never will be, but he is extremely elusive in the open field and needs a big back in with him like we used last year with Deuce. He is an excellent decoy IF there is another threat in there. which we don't have this year after Duec's injury.
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12-06-2007, 04:28 PM	#6
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson The main thing that is disturbing about Reggie is he looks worn out. I agree that he also needs to be coached better as a RB. Hopefully next year he can return to the roll he had in 2006. The Saints really need to get another RB to compliment him, one who can get those 4 yard runs consistently, and a RB who can stand up to the pounding of a 25-30 carry type of game.

12-06-2007, 09:00 PM	#7
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson oh god we have an impostor. but great minds think alike.

12-07-2007, 03:59 AM	#8
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	Re: Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson Offensive Schemes have a lot to do with it. Sean Payton abandoned focus on an adequate running game for half of his tenure as a head coach. According to Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com): Minnesota has rushed 377 times for 2,122 yards and 17 Touchdowns Minnesota has attempted to pass 306 times for 2,131 yards and 8 Touchdowns New Orleans has rushed 292 times for 1,032 yards and 10 Touchdowns New Orleans has attempted to pass 479 times for 3,176 yards, and 20 Touchdowns It's two totally different offenses. Plus, When Adrian Peterson was out, Chester Taylor continued the dominance at Running Back. It's not like Adrian Peterson was making their running game a success, he was just making it more of one.
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12-07-2007, 07:37 PM	#9
Champ Kind Nachooooooooooo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Shreveport Posts: 71	Re: Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson To the comment WillMcKenzie made. I think PT is good, but take away that one, touchdown run and he has a 3.0 yrds/carry average. I think Reggie has done mostly what the coaches expect out of him. It's the media and the fans who have over-hyped him.