The first offensive play for the Saints

SaintFanInATLHELL · 12-15-2007, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

I'm a huge Payton supporter and was at the games last week. Granted I was disappointed in the loss, but the call didn't bother me as much as the execution.

I was ticked off with the call itself. It was needless, careless, and unnecessary. It would have been better if it had been the direct handoff like the first play of the Falcons game. If would have been even better if they had simply ran the ball downhill. But reversing and tossing exposing the ball for any reason despite execution was a terrible idea. So terrible that just calling the play probably cost us the game.

J.Brown CAUSED that play to fail from the start. I digress. Love or hate Payton, that first play against the Falcons proves not only that he has some bal*s, but a sense of humor as well. I think Payton is going to be an excellent coach here. Yes, he made some very, very poor personnel decisions this past offseason, but you can chalk this whole season up to a learning experience. I relate this season to the 2nd year after the Pats won their first SB. If you remember, they stunk it up pretty bad early in that season and eventually finished 8-8. Then, the dynasty began. Listen, we have to all remember that Payton is a 2nd year coach who lost his best running back and had a really bad draft and free agency (albeit most of his fault on that one). Give the guy two more years and he'll have this team right where they need to be every year. Contenders. He better make sure he keeps a hold of Brees though. Wow, what a qb he is.

Actually I'm still not sold. To be where I want the Saints to be they need to have a consistent, effective running attack and a defense that can get off the field. And right now the team has neither. Even worse both are directly attributable to personnel, scheme, and coaching, all of which are directly managed by the head coach.

Payton has shown some signs of willingness to change. I think he's finally getting the fact that he needs to rush the ball into the line consistently 20 times a game to make the passing game more effective.

I've been happy with the defense defending the run. But when you give up the most 20+ yard plays and the highest opposing QB rating in the league, there isn't much need to run the ball is there? Gibbs refuses to apply QB pressure from all angles, so opposing QBs have to get rid of the ball quickly.

Consistency is the difference between a run of the pack team and an elite one. I want to see more.

SFIAH

12-15-2007, 01:59 PM	#1
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,785	Re: The first offensive play for the Saints Originally Posted by saintsmissile I'm a huge Payton supporter and was at the games last week. Granted I was disappointed in the loss, but the call didn't bother me as much as the execution. I was ticked off with the call itself. It was needless, careless, and unnecessary. It would have been better if it had been the direct handoff like the first play of the Falcons game. If would have been even better if they had simply ran the ball downhill. But reversing and tossing exposing the ball for any reason despite execution was a terrible idea. So terrible that just calling the play probably cost us the game. J.Brown CAUSED that play to fail from the start. I digress. Love or hate Payton, that first play against the Falcons proves not only that he has some bal*s, but a sense of humor as well. I think Payton is going to be an excellent coach here. Yes, he made some very, very poor personnel decisions this past offseason, but you can chalk this whole season up to a learning experience. I relate this season to the 2nd year after the Pats won their first SB. If you remember, they stunk it up pretty bad early in that season and eventually finished 8-8. Then, the dynasty began. Listen, we have to all remember that Payton is a 2nd year coach who lost his best running back and had a really bad draft and free agency (albeit most of his fault on that one). Give the guy two more years and he'll have this team right where they need to be every year. Contenders. He better make sure he keeps a hold of Brees though. Wow, what a qb he is. Actually I'm still not sold. To be where I want the Saints to be they need to have a consistent, effective running attack and a defense that can get off the field. And right now the team has neither. Even worse both are directly attributable to personnel, scheme, and coaching, all of which are directly managed by the head coach. Payton has shown some signs of willingness to change. I think he's finally getting the fact that he needs to rush the ball into the line consistently 20 times a game to make the passing game more effective. I've been happy with the defense defending the run. But when you give up the most 20+ yard plays and the highest opposing QB rating in the league, there isn't much need to run the ball is there? Gibbs refuses to apply QB pressure from all angles, so opposing QBs have to get rid of the ball quickly. Consistency is the difference between a run of the pack team and an elite one. I want to see more. SFIAH
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