Can we pressure McNabb

andersen · 12-23-2007, 09:35 AM

with only our front four? This defense of ours seems to be built around the basis of pressuring the qb with only the front four, setting the lb's and playing deep zones. It's the old 'bend but don't break' defense. But, we have shown that we are very weak against the long pass, which it is designed to 'prevent'. We have had veteran cb's bite on either the play action or double moves, letting the wr run right pass them. We have had safeties do the same or just get way out of position to make a play. Five OL (plus a rb or te) makes 6-7 blocking only 4. No way Smith or Grant are going to get any pressure unless the coverage downfield is so good that the qb pulls it down and waits too long.
Fujita is a good dogger, but the other two are not. Harper can blitz if he doesn't give it away too soon and doesn't start too far back.
But then, who is going to shadow Westbrook?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 12-23-2007, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by andersen

with only our front four?

No. That's one of the fundamental problems with the Saints passing defense.

This defense of ours seems to be built around the basis of pressuring the qb with only the front four, setting the lb's and playing deep zones. It's the old 'bend but don't break' defense. But, we have shown that we are very weak against the long pass, which it is designed to 'prevent'. We have had veteran cb's bite on either the play action or double moves, letting the wr run right pass them. We have had safeties do the same or just get way out of position to make a play. Five OL (plus a rb or te) makes 6-7 blocking only 4. No way Smith or Grant are going to get any pressure unless the coverage downfield is so good that the qb pulls it down and waits too long.
Fujita is a good dogger, but the other two are not. Harper can blitz if he doesn't give it away too soon and doesn't start too far back.
But then, who is going to shadow Westbrook?

And therein lies the dilemma my friend. Gibbs doesn't have the personnel to do what he wants to do. That's been the problem for the last 2 years.

Figuring I'm going to get burnt like toast anyway, if I were Gibbs I'd bring it from all angles. My reasoning would be that if you can press the QB then the likelihood of him making a long accurate throw is diminished. That a least gives your secondary a chance to make a play on the ball. Of course I'd spy Westbrook.

But giving McNabb a chance to get comfortable, survey the field, and the opportunity to pull the ball down and run is a recipe for disaster.

SFIAH

hagan714 · 12-23-2007, 10:20 AM

containment is all I ask for. Requiring Westbrook to block

AssGrinch · 12-23-2007, 10:31 AM

I think we will blitz more than usual this game.

QBREES9 · 12-23-2007, 11:32 AM

I hope we BLITZ a lot more

LongTimeFan · 12-23-2007, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by AssGrinch

I think we will blitz more than usual this game.

IMO that will be key for winning this game....

Put McNabb on his ass....

hagan714 · 12-23-2007, 09:16 PM

hey grinch whats up? long time no see

andersen · 12-23-2007, 11:51 PM

Well, it looked from the stands that we did blitz/dog and could not get him on him can. Is this DC fault or the GM for not getting him the right players???

12-23-2007, 09:35 AM	#1
andersen With an "E" Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Madisonville, LA Posts: 429	Can we pressure McNabb with only our front four? This defense of ours seems to be built around the basis of pressuring the qb with only the front four, setting the lb's and playing deep zones. It's the old 'bend but don't break' defense. But, we have shown that we are very weak against the long pass, which it is designed to 'prevent'. We have had veteran cb's bite on either the play action or double moves, letting the wr run right pass them. We have had safeties do the same or just get way out of position to make a play. Five OL (plus a rb or te) makes 6-7 blocking only 4. No way Smith or Grant are going to get any pressure unless the coverage downfield is so good that the qb pulls it down and waits too long. Fujita is a good dogger, but the other two are not. Harper can blitz if he doesn't give it away too soon and doesn't start too far back. But then, who is going to shadow Westbrook?
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12-23-2007, 09:46 AM	#2
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Can we pressure McNabb Originally Posted by andersen with only our front four? No. That's one of the fundamental problems with the Saints passing defense. This defense of ours seems to be built around the basis of pressuring the qb with only the front four, setting the lb's and playing deep zones. It's the old 'bend but don't break' defense. But, we have shown that we are very weak against the long pass, which it is designed to 'prevent'. We have had veteran cb's bite on either the play action or double moves, letting the wr run right pass them. We have had safeties do the same or just get way out of position to make a play. Five OL (plus a rb or te) makes 6-7 blocking only 4. No way Smith or Grant are going to get any pressure unless the coverage downfield is so good that the qb pulls it down and waits too long. Fujita is a good dogger, but the other two are not. Harper can blitz if he doesn't give it away too soon and doesn't start too far back. But then, who is going to shadow Westbrook? And therein lies the dilemma my friend. Gibbs doesn't have the personnel to do what he wants to do. That's been the problem for the last 2 years. Figuring I'm going to get burnt like toast anyway, if I were Gibbs I'd bring it from all angles. My reasoning would be that if you can press the QB then the likelihood of him making a long accurate throw is diminished. That a least gives your secondary a chance to make a play on the ball. Of course I'd spy Westbrook. But giving McNabb a chance to get comfortable, survey the field, and the opportunity to pull the ball down and run is a recipe for disaster. SFIAH
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12-23-2007, 10:20 AM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Can we pressure McNabb containment is all I ask for. Requiring Westbrook to block

12-23-2007, 10:31 AM	#4
AssGrinch Registered Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 34	Re: Can we pressure McNabb I think we will blitz more than usual this game.

12-23-2007, 11:32 AM	#5
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Can we pressure McNabb I hope we BLITZ a lot more

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12-23-2007, 11:47 AM	#6
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Re: Can we pressure McNabb Originally Posted by AssGrinch I think we will blitz more than usual this game. IMO that will be key for winning this game.... Put McNabb on his ass....

12-23-2007, 09:16 PM	#7
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Can we pressure McNabb hey grinch whats up? long time no see

12-23-2007, 11:51 PM	#8
andersen With an "E" Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Madisonville, LA Posts: 429	Re: Can we pressure McNabb Well, it looked from the stands that we did blitz/dog and could not get him on him can. Is this DC fault or the GM for not getting him the right players???