Looking for a new head coach?

abutler · 01-02-2008, 02:35 PM

Good for you Mr. Moronic. I'm glad that since you are so used to us being sub par in football that you have acquired a God like sense of patience for the organization. I want us to win. We can. We should. Coming up short of the playoffs when we had so many losses we could have avioded lights me afire. Especially when we have one of the best quarterbacks in the league for the first time ever! I was there at most of our games in Baton Rouge when we went 3-13. I lost everything in the storm just like our football team. I was off my game that year to. I'm grateful we still played. Don't think that a 3-13 season justifies a mediocre season now. That's settling for crap. The Saint players are disgusted with this year. Why are you content?

Euphoria · 01-02-2008, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by abutler

Good for you Mr. Moronic. I'm glad that since you are so used to us being sub par in football that you have acquired a God like sense of patience for the organization. I want us to win. We can. We should. Coming up short of the playoffs when we had so many losses we could have avioded lights me afire. Especially when we have one of the best quarterbacks in the league for the first time ever! I was there at most of our games in Baton Rouge when we went 3-13. I lost everything in the storm just like our football team. I was off my game that year to. I'm grateful we still played. Don't think that a 3-13 season justifies a mediocre season now. That's settling for crap. The Saint players are disgusted with this year. Why are you content?

Well you can always go cheer for the Patriots. I think everyone is a bit disappointed with this years performance after the great year before.

I think some people seem to forget its not your team at all. Its Tom Benson - You are just allowed to live in his world.

I think also the general consensus is that Sean Payton is going to be here another year plus... so deal with it wether you like it or not.

SoulStar · 01-02-2008, 03:01 PM

Fickle....thats the word that continues to come to mind as I read this topic. Dikta, Haslett, Mora.....no one was saying lets fire these guys after the 2nd year on the job. I wouldnt say anyone is content, but I really think the Saints over achived last year. I dont see anyone in New York calling for Mangini's *Sp?* head with the Jets. Mike Nolan still has a job in San Fran, no one is calling for his head. It took how many years for the Ravens to finally fire Billeck, who by the way is an offenseive minded coach....he was brought in to put points on the board......as many of us know the ravens still havent found an offense.

papz · 01-02-2008, 03:06 PM

He's done wonders to the 3-13 team he inherited. Let's not jump the gun on him so fast. And like Euphoria said, whether you like it or not, he's going to be here next season... and probably the year after that barring a disastrous season. I hope your views of him will change with a strong group of free agent signings and a solid draft. I truly feel Payton is the right man for the job.

BooBirdSaint · 01-02-2008, 04:49 PM

I'm not sure what planet this is b/c I thought I saw where papz sided with Eup... Twice in the same thread!!!

Strange bedfellows fo sure.

papz · 01-02-2008, 06:02 PM

LOL... I was shocked myself.

WhoDatQB · 01-02-2008, 07:59 PM

Belichick, Dungy these coaches do not grow on trees. Remember that the Steelers didn't can Cowher, and he didn't set the world on fire, but built a consistent winner that won a Superbowl.

Would I want a Belichick or Dungy? Your damn right I would, who wouldn't? However Dungy was largely considered a failure before he went to Indy. The Bucs went to the playoffs numerous times, but it took time. Do I want Sean Peyton to morph into Lombardi right this instant? Yes, but that isn't realistic, Belichick wasn't even that great to start off with it took time.

In a way we are a victim of our own success in that we want a SB now, even though right this minute we are a team with average talent. Yes we are average talent wise. When healthy we have maybe 4 or 5 players on Defense that would start for more than half of the teams in the league. When healthy on offense we have maybe 6 players that would start for more than half the other teams in the league, and one that would start for almost all the teams but two.

Our team talent has improved since Peyton showed up, and hopefully it will continue to do so as we need a team built through the draft to stay competitive for years to come.

abutler · 01-03-2008, 09:08 PM

Is everybody in the NFC laughing at our predicament? An offensive coordinator is poised to rebuild the Saint defense! Here we go for the 2nd time! Didn't our defense go backwards from last year. Wasn't that the part of the team we were building so we could make it to the Superbowl? Do we need more proof that defense, which is what we desperately need, is not in the area of Sean Payton's expertise? Our only realistic aspiration under Sean Payton is to get into the playoffs. Our team, our fans, our city, deserves to aspire for more.
We tasted a real opportunity not too long ago. It should have made us all even more hungry!
We need a more seasoned HC. Especially now!

MatthewT · 01-03-2008, 10:09 PM

OK, I am now curious. For argument sakes, lets say that Payton is fired, demoted, or whatever. If you were given the position of authority with the New Orleans Saints, who do you name as your head coach? And no, you cannot hire a head coach that is currently employed by an NFL team.

saintsfan1976 · 01-03-2008, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by abutler

Is everybody in the NFC laughing at our predicament? An offensive coordinator is poised to rebuild the Saint defense! Here we go for the 2nd time! Didn't our defense go backwards from last year. Wasn't that the part of the team we were building so we could make it to the Superbowl? Do we need more proof that defense, which is what we desperately need, is not in the area of Sean Payton's expertise? Our only realistic aspiration under Sean Payton is to get into the playoffs. Our team, our fans, our city, deserves to aspire for more.
We tasted a real opportunity not too long ago. It should have made us all even more hungry!
We need a more seasoned HC. Especially now!

Easy there, tiger. Patience grasshopper. Whoooooa trigger. (all apply here)

01-02-2008, 02:35 PM	#1
abutler since 86 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Long Beach MS Posts: 23 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Looking for a new head coach? Good for you Mr. Moronic. I'm glad that since you are so used to us being sub par in football that you have acquired a God like sense of patience for the organization. I want us to win. We can. We should. Coming up short of the playoffs when we had so many losses we could have avioded lights me afire. Especially when we have one of the best quarterbacks in the league for the first time ever! I was there at most of our games in Baton Rouge when we went 3-13. I lost everything in the storm just like our football team. I was off my game that year to. I'm grateful we still played. Don't think that a 3-13 season justifies a mediocre season now. That's settling for crap. The Saint players are disgusted with this year. Why are you content?

01-02-2008, 02:57 PM	#2
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Looking for a new head coach? Originally Posted by abutler Good for you Mr. Moronic. I'm glad that since you are so used to us being sub par in football that you have acquired a God like sense of patience for the organization. I want us to win. We can. We should. Coming up short of the playoffs when we had so many losses we could have avioded lights me afire. Especially when we have one of the best quarterbacks in the league for the first time ever! I was there at most of our games in Baton Rouge when we went 3-13. I lost everything in the storm just like our football team. I was off my game that year to. I'm grateful we still played. Don't think that a 3-13 season justifies a mediocre season now. That's settling for crap. The Saint players are disgusted with this year. Why are you content? Well you can always go cheer for the Patriots. I think everyone is a bit disappointed with this years performance after the great year before. I think some people seem to forget its not your team at all. Its Tom Benson - You are just allowed to live in his world. I think also the general consensus is that Sean Payton is going to be here another year plus... so deal with it wether you like it or not.

01-02-2008, 03:01 PM	#3
SoulStar 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arlington Tx Posts: 157	Re: Looking for a new head coach? Fickle....thats the word that continues to come to mind as I read this topic. Dikta, Haslett, Mora.....no one was saying lets fire these guys after the 2nd year on the job. I wouldnt say anyone is content, but I really think the Saints over achived last year. I dont see anyone in New York calling for Mangini's Sp? head with the Jets. Mike Nolan still has a job in San Fran, no one is calling for his head. It took how many years for the Ravens to finally fire Billeck, who by the way is an offenseive minded coach....he was brought in to put points on the board......as many of us know the ravens still havent found an offense.
	You say that were nuts for pulling for them, you call them sorry, you wonder why we deal with them year after year. Well New Orleans is like no other city in the world, and no fans are anything like saint fans.

01-02-2008, 03:06 PM	#4
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Looking for a new head coach? He's done wonders to the 3-13 team he inherited. Let's not jump the gun on him so fast. And like Euphoria said, whether you like it or not, he's going to be here next season... and probably the year after that barring a disastrous season. I hope your views of him will change with a strong group of free agent signings and a solid draft. I truly feel Payton is the right man for the job.

01-02-2008, 04:49 PM	#5
BooBirdSaint 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 273	Re: Looking for a new head coach? I'm not sure what planet this is b/c I thought I saw where papz sided with Eup... Twice in the same thread!!! Strange bedfellows fo sure.

01-02-2008, 06:02 PM	#6
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Looking for a new head coach? LOL... I was shocked myself.

01-02-2008, 07:59 PM	#7
WhoDatQB Boondock Saint Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: F***ing Atlanta Posts: 322	Re: Looking for a new head coach? Belichick, Dungy these coaches do not grow on trees. Remember that the Steelers didn't can Cowher, and he didn't set the world on fire, but built a consistent winner that won a Superbowl. Would I want a Belichick or Dungy? Your damn right I would, who wouldn't? However Dungy was largely considered a failure before he went to Indy. The Bucs went to the playoffs numerous times, but it took time. Do I want Sean Peyton to morph into Lombardi right this instant? Yes, but that isn't realistic, Belichick wasn't even that great to start off with it took time. In a way we are a victim of our own success in that we want a SB now, even though right this minute we are a team with average talent. Yes we are average talent wise. When healthy we have maybe 4 or 5 players on Defense that would start for more than half of the teams in the league. When healthy on offense we have maybe 6 players that would start for more than half the other teams in the league, and one that would start for almost all the teams but two. Our team talent has improved since Peyton showed up, and hopefully it will continue to do so as we need a team built through the draft to stay competitive for years to come.

01-03-2008, 09:08 PM	#8
abutler since 86 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Long Beach MS Posts: 23 Blog Entries: 2	Offensive Coordinator to rebuild Saint's defense Is everybody in the NFC laughing at our predicament? An offensive coordinator is poised to rebuild the Saint defense! Here we go for the 2nd time! Didn't our defense go backwards from last year. Wasn't that the part of the team we were building so we could make it to the Superbowl? Do we need more proof that defense, which is what we desperately need, is not in the area of Sean Payton's expertise? Our only realistic aspiration under Sean Payton is to get into the playoffs. Our team, our fans, our city, deserves to aspire for more. We tasted a real opportunity not too long ago. It should have made us all even more hungry! We need a more seasoned HC. Especially now!

01-03-2008, 10:09 PM	#9
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Offensive Coordinator to rebuild Saint's defense OK, I am now curious. For argument sakes, lets say that Payton is fired, demoted, or whatever. If you were given the position of authority with the New Orleans Saints, who do you name as your head coach? And no, you cannot hire a head coach that is currently employed by an NFL team.

01-03-2008, 10:33 PM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,023 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Offensive Coordinator to rebuild Saint's defense Originally Posted by abutler Is everybody in the NFC laughing at our predicament? An offensive coordinator is poised to rebuild the Saint defense! Here we go for the 2nd time! Didn't our defense go backwards from last year. Wasn't that the part of the team we were building so we could make it to the Superbowl? Do we need more proof that defense, which is what we desperately need, is not in the area of Sean Payton's expertise? Our only realistic aspiration under Sean Payton is to get into the playoffs. Our team, our fans, our city, deserves to aspire for more. We tasted a real opportunity not too long ago. It should have made us all even more hungry! We need a more seasoned HC. Especially now! Easy there, tiger. Patience grasshopper. Whoooooa trigger. (all apply here)