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Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach

Just because a coach didn't do well at one team doesn't mean he is a bad coach. Look at Billicheck, he was fired in Cleveland years ago and people said he would never amount to much as a coach and just look at him now.
Give Orgeron a chance. It's not like he is the HC or DC.

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I was just listening to Sirius and a caller asked about the Orgeron hire with the Saints. The guys on Sirius said "Eddie was a great hire for the Saints. He fits their scheme and you can bet the defensive linemen will be in shape and run to the ball". High intensity coach that will expect nothing but 100% from his players. They went futher on to say "you can bet Grant and Smith will lose weight".

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Originally Posted by saintsmissile (Post 152618)

You guys kill me. Do you not follow college football at all? Go check out his antics while at Ole Miss and you'll see this guy is a clown.

I follow it enough that he was considered one of the premiere DL coaches in college... obviously you knew that. You also knew that McFadden is Peterson with blazing speed... right. :rolleyes:

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You mentioned all those great players he supposedly "coached". Might have something to do with their talent over his ability to coach.

Supposedly? It's a FACT he coached those players. You can have all the God given talent and without proper coaching, it will amount to nothing. Examples... Adrian McPherson, Talman Gardner, Courtney Brown, Heath Shuler, etc.

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Paid his dues? Yeah, okay. He has ZERO NFL experience, yet you feel this qualifies him to come on board and be a coach in the NFL. Have you all forgotten that after being fired from Ole Miss he did not get ONE offer from a college to to coach there? That right there tells you something.

Mike Tomlin worked his way from being a graduate assistant at Memphis to becoming a head coach for the Pittsburg Steelers. What qualified him making that jump from being a college assistant to becoming NFL position's coach? And so what if he got fired from Ole Miss... he played in the best conference in college football and had to recruit against the powerhouses of the SEC. Some people just are cut out to be a head coach.

If your main argument is that he won't cut because he got fired from Ole Miss, that's beyond WEAK...

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Originally Posted by saintsmissile (Post 152575)

Congratulations Loomis. You are now turning this team into the same mold as Haslett's. Ogeron? COME ON! They guy failed in his one attempt to be a head coach, so I guess that warrants him jumping to the NFL? Uh, don't get that at all. This was a horrible, horrible move. I also don't understand not firing a pathetic DC in Gibbs only to fire our rb and cb coach. Talk about scapegoat. I remember Haslett doing the same thing. I'm beginning to think that Payton may not be the guy for us after all. If anyone needed to be canned from this season it was Gibbs and yet, nothing. Shows me he's acting much like Haslett with Venturi. I got news for you Sean Payton, if it looks and smells like shi*, then it's probably shi*. To fire ANY COACH off this team besides Gibbs, it's a huge disjustice to the fans and the players. Gibbs is the MAIN problem with our defense and it may, just like Haslett, ultimately cost Payton his job. Loyalty is one thing, the unemployment line is another. If I were Payton, I'd start refreshing my resume.

you want Gibbs fired, yet on another thread you stated that the defense needs help at every position. So is it Gibbs' fault he has no talent, or is it that the defense is talented, but not well coached?

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Okay smart guy, if he was SUCH A GREAT DL coach, how were his D Lines at Ole Miss? Yeah right, when he didn't have the SC talent, he didn't have the same results. My arguement is weak? Sure, whatever you say, he BOMBED as a head coach. He just didn't "not do well" he NEVER even had a .500 record! None of his defenses were even CLOSE to being ranked high in the SEC.

I believe I already answered that even before you asked the question.

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About my McFadden comment, I still stand by it. I will post facts to boast that it a second.

Any day now.

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Second, you must be some kind of mental misfit to even mention Tomlin! That PROVES my point. Tomlin was a DC in the NFL for more than just a season or two before he got his chance. He also put his skins on the wall in the NFL. Please tell me where Ogeron has done this? Do you REALLY think that the D Lines at SC were so successful because of Ogeron? You make me laugh. Has SC missed a beat with Ogeron gone? Yeah right and my arguement is weak.

Obviously you have hard time reading and understanding things.

So umm... can you answer that question I posed?

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Mike Tomlin worked his way from being a graduate assistant at Memphis to becoming a head coach for the Pittsburg Steelers. What qualified him making that jump from being a college assistant to becoming NFL position's coach?

Look carefully as I bolded the most important part in there.
Read it slowly first... you get my point yet?

Probably not.

Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach

Oh man you're just digging yourself in a deeper hole... you should just stop and pretend this thread never happened.