Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there)

cgctobe · 01-23-2008, 07:44 PM

We need a special teams game breaker.I was Looking at the stats and did not realize how bad we were in that area....field position is everything!The best man for the job is Kevin Robinson from utah state.He is the next Devin Hester, bank on it!

MatthewT · 01-23-2008, 09:37 PM

I am not saying this guy couldn't be a great return man, but I do not see him being another Devin Hester. Hester has runs a 40 around the 4.35 range, and Robinson is about a 4.5 type of guy.

shortlaw · 01-23-2008, 10:09 PM

Devin Hester is bordering on being a hall of famer after the last two years. It's a bit fruitless to look for the same kind of guy. We might find another Micheal Lewis or something comparable, which would be more than serviceable. But Devin Hester is a unique player in this league.

saintsfan1976 · 01-23-2008, 10:25 PM

Skyler Green.

SapperSaint · 01-24-2008, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Skyler Green.

A-FREAKIN'-MEN!

Yes I understand he was a practice squad guy in Cincy. However, I feel getting back to Louisiana will rejuvenate him. Getting some red beans and rice in your system can work wonders! I am not just talking intestinal.

cgctobe · 01-23-2008, 10:59 PM

Skyler was put on the practice squad in Cinci...

WhoDat205 · 01-24-2008, 11:49 AM

@ Missle and Sapper: You two are the biggest homers ever. I just wanted to get that off my chest.

About the return man: Leodis McKelvin is the real deal. First Team AA for returns, led the nation in return yards and he's got shut-down man-to-man corner back potential.

He is from Troy, though. I hope that's not too small of a school.

SapperSaint · 01-24-2008, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

@ Missle and Sapper: You two are the biggest homers ever. I just wanted to get that off my chest.

What the heck is a homer?

Faith in the team has nothing to do with the fact that I am not overly excited about how this team is performing. I just don't understand that because Caoch P says "Yeah, we have a problem on defense and we are going to look at making it better", what? That was the same problem we had last year, and nothing was fixed, it was made worse. Now, instead of going after a proven defensive coach we hire a failed HC to help the D-line. Yes, everyone has to start somewhere, but do you really go after the guy that was chased out of his last job????

I am sorry to be sooooo negative guys, but how many stupid mistakes does it take for the Front Office to stand up and say, "HEY, let's stop bringing in second rate talent into this organization and really make this team great." It just seems this team get's the players noboby else wants, and I'm tired of it.

No one on this site can say they are happy with the way things are and have gone for this team. It's depressing guys.

I still want to know what a "Homer" is.

WhoDat205 · 01-24-2008, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

What the heck is a homer?

A "homer" is someone who is blinded by their bias towards their favorite team. In this case LSU. I was alluding to the comments about Skylar Green, and Missle having two guys from LSU in his mock - primarily, Steltz going as the 40th player taken.

It didn't have anything to do with Coach O or the Saints Defensive woes.

Since you mentioned coach O: he was a failed HC, sure, but so was Cutcliffe and he's a pretty good offensive coordinator. Coach O has shown that he has an eye for talent and has a pretty damn good record of coaching up D-linemen. I figure Payton needs some help finding good defensive talent. I dont' see where his record as an HC has any meaningful impact on his ability to do that.

Tobias-Reiper · 01-24-2008, 11:53 AM

... does he come with the same Bear blocking scheme and execution that Hester benefits from?

01-23-2008, 07:44 PM	#1
cgctobe 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 114	Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) We need a special teams game breaker.I was Looking at the stats and did not realize how bad we were in that area....field position is everything!The best man for the job is Kevin Robinson from utah state.He is the next Devin Hester, bank on it!
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01-23-2008, 09:37 PM	#2
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) I am not saying this guy couldn't be a great return man, but I do not see him being another Devin Hester. Hester has runs a 40 around the 4.35 range, and Robinson is about a 4.5 type of guy.

01-23-2008, 10:09 PM	#3
shortlaw Rookie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 24	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) Devin Hester is bordering on being a hall of famer after the last two years. It's a bit fruitless to look for the same kind of guy. We might find another Micheal Lewis or something comparable, which would be more than serviceable. But Devin Hester is a unique player in this league.
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01-23-2008, 10:25 PM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,972 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) Skyler Green.

01-24-2008, 08:21 AM	#5
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Skyler Green. A-FREAKIN'-MEN! Yes I understand he was a practice squad guy in Cincy. However, I feel getting back to Louisiana will rejuvenate him. Getting some red beans and rice in your system can work wonders! I am not just talking intestinal.

01-23-2008, 10:59 PM	#6
cgctobe 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 114	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) Skyler was put on the practice squad in Cinci...
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01-24-2008, 11:49 AM	#7
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) @ Missle and Sapper: You two are the biggest homers ever. I just wanted to get that off my chest. About the return man: Leodis McKelvin is the real deal. First Team AA for returns, led the nation in return yards and he's got shut-down man-to-man corner back potential. He is from Troy, though. I hope that's not too small of a school.

01-24-2008, 02:03 PM	#8
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) Originally Posted by WhoDat205 @ Missle and Sapper: You two are the biggest homers ever. I just wanted to get that off my chest. What the heck is a homer? Faith in the team has nothing to do with the fact that I am not overly excited about how this team is performing. I just don't understand that because Caoch P says "Yeah, we have a problem on defense and we are going to look at making it better", what? That was the same problem we had last year, and nothing was fixed, it was made worse. Now, instead of going after a proven defensive coach we hire a failed HC to help the D-line. Yes, everyone has to start somewhere, but do you really go after the guy that was chased out of his last job???? I am sorry to be sooooo negative guys, but how many stupid mistakes does it take for the Front Office to stand up and say, "HEY, let's stop bringing in second rate talent into this organization and really make this team great." It just seems this team get's the players noboby else wants, and I'm tired of it. No one on this site can say they are happy with the way things are and have gone for this team. It's depressing guys. I still want to know what a "Homer" is.
	"We are number one. All others are number two, or lower." -The Sphinx http://blackandgold.com/groups/28-ou...tsman-s-corner

01-24-2008, 02:20 PM	#9
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) Originally Posted by SapperSaint What the heck is a homer? A "homer" is someone who is blinded by their bias towards their favorite team. In this case LSU. I was alluding to the comments about Skylar Green, and Missle having two guys from LSU in his mock - primarily, Steltz going as the 40th player taken. It didn't have anything to do with Coach O or the Saints Defensive woes. Since you mentioned coach O: he was a failed HC, sure, but so was Cutcliffe and he's a pretty good offensive coordinator. Coach O has shown that he has an eye for talent and has a pretty damn good record of coaching up D-linemen. I figure Payton needs some help finding good defensive talent. I dont' see where his record as an HC has any meaningful impact on his ability to do that.
	"defence's personal to allwats double team or watch is over, that one reason why the saints or not any good." - Vador101

01-24-2008, 11:53 AM	#10
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) ... does he come with the same Bear blocking scheme and execution that Hester benefits from?