Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there)

SapperSaint · 01-24-2008, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

@ Missle and Sapper: You two are the biggest homers ever. I just wanted to get that off my chest.

What the heck is a homer?

Faith in the team has nothing to do with the fact that I am not overly excited about how this team is performing. I just don't understand that because Caoch P says "Yeah, we have a problem on defense and we are going to look at making it better", what? That was the same problem we had last year, and nothing was fixed, it was made worse. Now, instead of going after a proven defensive coach we hire a failed HC to help the D-line. Yes, everyone has to start somewhere, but do you really go after the guy that was chased out of his last job????

I am sorry to be sooooo negative guys, but how many stupid mistakes does it take for the Front Office to stand up and say, "HEY, let's stop bringing in second rate talent into this organization and really make this team great." It just seems this team get's the players noboby else wants, and I'm tired of it.

No one on this site can say they are happy with the way things are and have gone for this team. It's depressing guys.

I still want to know what a "Homer" is.

WhoDat205 · 01-24-2008, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

What the heck is a homer?

A "homer" is someone who is blinded by their bias towards their favorite team. In this case LSU. I was alluding to the comments about Skylar Green, and Missle having two guys from LSU in his mock - primarily, Steltz going as the 40th player taken.

It didn't have anything to do with Coach O or the Saints Defensive woes.

Since you mentioned coach O: he was a failed HC, sure, but so was Cutcliffe and he's a pretty good offensive coordinator. Coach O has shown that he has an eye for talent and has a pretty damn good record of coaching up D-linemen. I figure Payton needs some help finding good defensive talent. I dont' see where his record as an HC has any meaningful impact on his ability to do that.

WhoDat205 · 01-24-2008, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

Uh, homers? Gee, I guess winning a national championship means you have crappy players! Funny, if OSU had won and and Jenkins and Lauranitis went pro, you'd better happy as pie if we drafted either one. Yet, we mention drafting some kids that went to LSU and we're just "homers". Yeah, funny how NE drafts a ton of LSU players (Green, Faulk, Gay, Hill (sadly he died) and they are geniuses! Get over yourself guy. We'd be lucky to have such high character, high output players as Steltz, Highsmith and Hester. Stelz a consensus All American, Highsmith the best LB at LSU and Hester a thousand yard gainer and the MAIN reason LSU won a NC. Homer indeed.

^^^^^That's being a homer.

Saintuary · 01-24-2008, 03:22 PM

I'm sure Skyler Green is happy to be a Saint. I think it was a good idea to bring him here. We'll see.

WhoDat205 · 01-24-2008, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

Yep, you're right. I guess you wouldn't want some players like Corey Webster, Dwayne Bowe, Randall Gay, Kevin Faulk, A.Faneca, Stephen Peterson, Dominic Davis (before his injury) Glenn Dorsey, Howard Green, Bradie James on this team. You're right WhoDat, LSU players suck and why waste your time on them? Let's just let PERENNIAL SB contender NE grab them all up and make the SB every other year. Last I checked, smart guy, Steltz was an ALL AMERICAN! I guess we can give a LB from Tennessee a chance with our last pick in the 7th round, but not a guy from LSU, who by the way, plays a position of need. You sir, are a moron!

Easy buddy. There's no need for name calling.

At what point did I say that LSU players suck?

What does Marvin Mitchell have to do with spending a 2nd round pick on a SS with 4th round talent just because you unilaterally decided that Roman Harper needs to be replaced after 20 games?

SapperSaint · 01-24-2008, 03:54 PM

Calm down now, calm down.

Yes, I will fall into the Homer catagory. I would love to see the Saints LSU and Southern Miss heavy. Is is because I love both teams and blah, blah, blah.

Nothing is personal around here. I didn't take any offence to what whodat205 said. We are USM brothers.

Back to Coach O, I will say it again, I hope I'm wrong about him and I catch alot crap next year. I just want what is best for this team. That's all, even if it means drafting all the LSU players.

WhoDat205 · 01-24-2008, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

Calm down now, calm down.

Yes, I will fall into the Homer catagory. I would love to see the Saints LSU and Southern Miss heavy. Is is because I love both teams and blah, blah, blah.

Nothing is personal around here. I didn't take any offence to what whodat205 said. We are USM brothers.

Back to Coach O, I will say it again, I hope I'm wrong about him and I catch alot crap next year. I just want what is best for this team. That's all, even if it means drafting all the LSU players.

Hey, I'm a Homer all the way for USM and the entire SEC.

Imagine if we had Boley and AT...we picked Adrian McPherson 8 spots before Boley and Bulger was picked 18 spots before AT. That pick double-sucks.

Anyway, about the return men. Take a serious look at McKelvin. His stock is on the rise, and he could break the top 15. He's a good m2m corner with a ton of speen, he's probably the best return man in the draft to boot. He's worth consideration at 10 depending on his combine.

As for a back-up QB, I bet Jeremy Young will be there in the 6th...

SapperSaint · 01-24-2008, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

As for a back-up QB, I bet Jeremy Young will be there in the 6th...

LOL! I think still be in the 1,000,003 round. Waiting.

I know I shouldn't be that way.

I still couldn't believe they didn't draft Adalius, I was heart broken.

cgctobe · 01-24-2008, 04:25 PM

McKELVIN is a good one no doubt.....I think both he and ROBINSON will fly under the radar a bit on draft day and be an absolute steal for some lucky team.

cgctobe · 01-24-2008, 10:37 PM

Hey saintsmissile....in case you have not noticed....Payton is going all offense all the time with just a sprinkle of defensive nobodys just to make it look like he gives a hoot.

01-24-2008, 03:03 PM	#11
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) Originally Posted by WhoDat205 @ Missle and Sapper: You two are the biggest homers ever. I just wanted to get that off my chest. What the heck is a homer? Faith in the team has nothing to do with the fact that I am not overly excited about how this team is performing. I just don't understand that because Caoch P says "Yeah, we have a problem on defense and we are going to look at making it better", what? That was the same problem we had last year, and nothing was fixed, it was made worse. Now, instead of going after a proven defensive coach we hire a failed HC to help the D-line. Yes, everyone has to start somewhere, but do you really go after the guy that was chased out of his last job???? I am sorry to be sooooo negative guys, but how many stupid mistakes does it take for the Front Office to stand up and say, "HEY, let's stop bringing in second rate talent into this organization and really make this team great." It just seems this team get's the players noboby else wants, and I'm tired of it. No one on this site can say they are happy with the way things are and have gone for this team. It's depressing guys. I still want to know what a "Homer" is.
	"We are number one. All others are number two, or lower." -The Sphinx http://blackandgold.com/groups/28-ou...tsman-s-corner

01-24-2008, 03:20 PM	#12
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) Originally Posted by SapperSaint What the heck is a homer? A "homer" is someone who is blinded by their bias towards their favorite team. In this case LSU. I was alluding to the comments about Skylar Green, and Missle having two guys from LSU in his mock - primarily, Steltz going as the 40th player taken. It didn't have anything to do with Coach O or the Saints Defensive woes. Since you mentioned coach O: he was a failed HC, sure, but so was Cutcliffe and he's a pretty good offensive coordinator. Coach O has shown that he has an eye for talent and has a pretty damn good record of coaching up D-linemen. I figure Payton needs some help finding good defensive talent. I dont' see where his record as an HC has any meaningful impact on his ability to do that.
	"defence's personal to allwats double team or watch is over, that one reason why the saints or not any good." - Vador101

01-24-2008, 03:21 PM	#13
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) Originally Posted by saintsmissile Uh, homers? Gee, I guess winning a national championship means you have crappy players! Funny, if OSU had won and and Jenkins and Lauranitis went pro, you'd better happy as pie if we drafted either one. Yet, we mention drafting some kids that went to LSU and we're just "homers". Yeah, funny how NE drafts a ton of LSU players (Green, Faulk, Gay, Hill (sadly he died) and they are geniuses! Get over yourself guy. We'd be lucky to have such high character, high output players as Steltz, Highsmith and Hester. Stelz a consensus All American, Highsmith the best LB at LSU and Hester a thousand yard gainer and the MAIN reason LSU won a NC. Homer indeed. ^^^^^That's being a homer.

01-24-2008, 03:22 PM	#14
Saintuary 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 198	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) I'm sure Skyler Green is happy to be a Saint. I think it was a good idea to bring him here. We'll see.

01-24-2008, 03:43 PM	#15
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) Originally Posted by saintsmissile Yep, you're right. I guess you wouldn't want some players like Corey Webster, Dwayne Bowe, Randall Gay, Kevin Faulk, A.Faneca, Stephen Peterson, Dominic Davis (before his injury) Glenn Dorsey, Howard Green, Bradie James on this team. You're right WhoDat, LSU players suck and why waste your time on them? Let's just let PERENNIAL SB contender NE grab them all up and make the SB every other year. Last I checked, smart guy, Steltz was an ALL AMERICAN! I guess we can give a LB from Tennessee a chance with our last pick in the 7th round, but not a guy from LSU, who by the way, plays a position of need. You sir, are a moron! Easy buddy. There's no need for name calling. At what point did I say that LSU players suck? What does Marvin Mitchell have to do with spending a 2nd round pick on a SS with 4th round talent just because you unilaterally decided that Roman Harper needs to be replaced after 20 games?

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01-24-2008, 03:54 PM	#16
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) Calm down now, calm down. Yes, I will fall into the Homer catagory. I would love to see the Saints LSU and Southern Miss heavy. Is is because I love both teams and blah, blah, blah. Nothing is personal around here. I didn't take any offence to what whodat205 said. We are USM brothers. Back to Coach O, I will say it again, I hope I'm wrong about him and I catch alot crap next year. I just want what is best for this team. That's all, even if it means drafting all the LSU players.
	"We are number one. All others are number two, or lower." -The Sphinx http://blackandgold.com/groups/28-ou...tsman-s-corner

01-24-2008, 04:06 PM	#17
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) Originally Posted by SapperSaint Calm down now, calm down. Yes, I will fall into the Homer catagory. I would love to see the Saints LSU and Southern Miss heavy. Is is because I love both teams and blah, blah, blah. Nothing is personal around here. I didn't take any offence to what whodat205 said. We are USM brothers. Back to Coach O, I will say it again, I hope I'm wrong about him and I catch alot crap next year. I just want what is best for this team. That's all, even if it means drafting all the LSU players. Hey, I'm a Homer all the way for USM and the entire SEC. Imagine if we had Boley and AT...we picked Adrian McPherson 8 spots before Boley and Bulger was picked 18 spots before AT. That pick double-sucks. Anyway, about the return men. Take a serious look at McKelvin. His stock is on the rise, and he could break the top 15. He's a good m2m corner with a ton of speen, he's probably the best return man in the draft to boot. He's worth consideration at 10 depending on his combine. As for a back-up QB, I bet Jeremy Young will be there in the 6th...
	"defence's personal to allwats double team or watch is over, that one reason why the saints or not any good." - Vador101

01-24-2008, 04:11 PM	#18
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) Originally Posted by WhoDat205 As for a back-up QB, I bet Jeremy Young will be there in the 6th... LOL! I think still be in the 1,000,003 round. Waiting. I know I shouldn't be that way. I still couldn't believe they didn't draft Adalius, I was heart broken.

01-24-2008, 04:25 PM	#19
cgctobe 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 114	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) McKELVIN is a good one no doubt.....I think both he and ROBINSON will fly under the radar a bit on draft day and be an absolute steal for some lucky team.
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01-24-2008, 10:37 PM	#20
cgctobe 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 114	Re: Return man needed? (another Devin Hester is out there) Hey saintsmissile....in case you have not noticed....Payton is going all offense all the time with just a sprinkle of defensive nobodys just to make it look like he gives a hoot.
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