greg williams skins dc let go

saintsfan1976 · 01-26-2008, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Cancer Beater

Like most of you, I too live and die for the black and gold.
I like all of you, spend $1,000's of dollars on this team every year.
I no longer get my hopes up. I do get MADD at the reality of the situation though.

CB I'm right there with 'ya... I manage to make the first home game every year and when you add flight, hotel, dining, drinks, merchandise, casino, etc... it gets way past ugly.

Despite what the organization has shown us for decades, I can't give up on the fact that things will be different "this year".

My optimism is fading.

Guess free agency will be the first glimpse into what '08 has in store...

CheramieIII · 01-27-2008, 10:06 AM

Orgeron will help Gibss tremendously. Gibbs as a few have said will never be fired. Gibbs is not a bad DC either and you'll see that once he gets some DB's and DL to help him a bit.

QBREES9 · 01-26-2008, 02:10 PM

Ya got to cut your losses. Fire Gibbs and hire Williams plain and simple he the best out there. Gibbs is not. You play the best players hire the best coaches.

Hire Al also.

Turbo Saint · 01-26-2008, 04:19 PM

yea being a secondary skins fan...we definitely need williams...he made an awesome defense in DC and we need that same shindig here. get him!

hagan714 · 01-26-2008, 09:24 PM

I want to see what Gibbs does if they let him sign better FA and draft defense. I am just wondering thats all.

Cancer Beater · 01-26-2008, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I want to see what Gibbs does if they let him sign better FA and draft defense. I am just wondering thats all.

Gibbs didn't do much in Dallas with Pro-bowl defensive players.

hagan714 · 01-27-2008, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by Cancer Beater

Gibbs didn't do much in Dallas with Pro-bowl defensive players.

With that in mind, remember before he came here The Tuna and Gibbs had just spent two years drafting and signing FA to switch to the 34 defense. So Gibbs only worked with the group for a couple of years. It takes time to build a defense. Right now you are seeing the fruits of his labor. So I am not going to ride anybody out of town just yet. Sean is safe because the two years spent building the offense has worked out great, It is still a work in progress and done yet. So lets see what happens with the defense, now that the offense is ahead of schedule in the rebuilding plan.

MatthewT · 01-27-2008, 01:29 AM

I am actually going to take up for Gibbs. Right now, he is coaching out of his element. The Saints need to get him the players that he needs to be successful. That is simply a transformation to the 3-4 scheme that Gibbs works best with. It would take a major over hall, but a major over hall is needed already. Why the Saints played the last two seasons in the typical 4-3 scheme is just beyond me.

FireVenturi · 01-27-2008, 11:46 AM

Yea one of Haz's downfalls was not firing Venturi, predicting it wont be any different for Payton.

01-26-2008, 07:15 PM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,036 Blog Entries: 3	Re: greg williams skins dc let go Originally Posted by Cancer Beater Like most of you, I too live and die for the black and gold. I like all of you, spend $1,000's of dollars on this team every year. I no longer get my hopes up. I do get MADD at the reality of the situation though. CB I'm right there with 'ya... I manage to make the first home game every year and when you add flight, hotel, dining, drinks, merchandise, casino, etc... it gets way past ugly. Despite what the organization has shown us for decades, I can't give up on the fact that things will be different "this year". My optimism is fading. Guess free agency will be the first glimpse into what '08 has in store...

01-27-2008, 10:06 AM	#2
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,497 Blog Entries: 3	Re: greg williams skins dc let go Orgeron will help Gibss tremendously. Gibbs as a few have said will never be fired. Gibbs is not a bad DC either and you'll see that once he gets some DB's and DL to help him a bit.

01-26-2008, 02:10 PM	#3
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: greg williams skins dc let go Ya got to cut your losses. Fire Gibbs and hire Williams plain and simple he the best out there. Gibbs is not. You play the best players hire the best coaches. Hire Al also.

01-26-2008, 04:19 PM	#4
Turbo Saint SoCal Saint Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: OB - San Diego, CA Posts: 726	Re: greg williams skins dc let go yea being a secondary skins fan...we definitely need williams...he made an awesome defense in DC and we need that same shindig here. get him!

01-26-2008, 09:24 PM	#5
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: greg williams skins dc let go I want to see what Gibbs does if they let him sign better FA and draft defense. I am just wondering thats all.

01-26-2008, 10:27 PM	#6
Cancer Beater 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 154	Re: greg williams skins dc let go Originally Posted by hagan714 I want to see what Gibbs does if they let him sign better FA and draft defense. I am just wondering thats all. Gibbs didn't do much in Dallas with Pro-bowl defensive players.
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01-27-2008, 05:58 AM	#7
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: greg williams skins dc let go Originally Posted by Cancer Beater Gibbs didn't do much in Dallas with Pro-bowl defensive players. With that in mind, remember before he came here The Tuna and Gibbs had just spent two years drafting and signing FA to switch to the 34 defense. So Gibbs only worked with the group for a couple of years. It takes time to build a defense. Right now you are seeing the fruits of his labor. So I am not going to ride anybody out of town just yet. Sean is safe because the two years spent building the offense has worked out great, It is still a work in progress and done yet. So lets see what happens with the defense, now that the offense is ahead of schedule in the rebuilding plan.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

01-27-2008, 01:29 AM	#8
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: greg williams skins dc let go I am actually going to take up for Gibbs. Right now, he is coaching out of his element. The Saints need to get him the players that he needs to be successful. That is simply a transformation to the 3-4 scheme that Gibbs works best with. It would take a major over hall, but a major over hall is needed already. Why the Saints played the last two seasons in the typical 4-3 scheme is just beyond me.

01-27-2008, 11:46 AM	#9
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Re: greg williams skins dc let go Yea one of Haz's downfalls was not firing Venturi, predicting it wont be any different for Payton.