greg williams skins dc let go

WVSaint · 01-26-2008, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by Cancer Beater

Like most of you, I too live and die for the black and gold.
I like all of you, spend $1,000's of dollars on this team every year.
I no longer get my hopes up. I do get MADD at the reality of the situation though.

I get mad, actually its probably a bit closer to furious....but I usually end up laughing at the situation (though its more of that maniacal, I'm going crazy kind of laugh.)

Cancer Beater · 01-26-2008, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by WVSaint

I get mad, actually its probably a bit closer to furious....but I usually end up laughing at the situation (though its more of that maniacal, I'm going crazy kind of laugh.)

I just noticed lastweek how little Cognac I drink when the Saints aren't playing.

Turbo Saint · 01-26-2008, 04:19 PM

yea being a secondary skins fan...we definitely need williams...he made an awesome defense in DC and we need that same shindig here. get him!

saintsfan1976 · 01-26-2008, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Cancer Beater

Like most of you, I too live and die for the black and gold.
I like all of you, spend $1,000's of dollars on this team every year.
I no longer get my hopes up. I do get MADD at the reality of the situation though.

CB I'm right there with 'ya... I manage to make the first home game every year and when you add flight, hotel, dining, drinks, merchandise, casino, etc... it gets way past ugly.

Despite what the organization has shown us for decades, I can't give up on the fact that things will be different "this year".

My optimism is fading.

Guess free agency will be the first glimpse into what '08 has in store...

WVSaint · 01-26-2008, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Guess free agency will be the first glimpse into what '08 has in store...

a lot of the same that the past offseasons have shown

hagan714 · 01-26-2008, 09:24 PM

I want to see what Gibbs does if they let him sign better FA and draft defense. I am just wondering thats all.

Cancer Beater · 01-26-2008, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I want to see what Gibbs does if they let him sign better FA and draft defense. I am just wondering thats all.

Gibbs didn't do much in Dallas with Pro-bowl defensive players.

MatthewT · 01-27-2008, 01:29 AM

I am actually going to take up for Gibbs. Right now, he is coaching out of his element. The Saints need to get him the players that he needs to be successful. That is simply a transformation to the 3-4 scheme that Gibbs works best with. It would take a major over hall, but a major over hall is needed already. Why the Saints played the last two seasons in the typical 4-3 scheme is just beyond me.

hagan714 · 01-27-2008, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by Cancer Beater

Gibbs didn't do much in Dallas with Pro-bowl defensive players.

With that in mind, remember before he came here The Tuna and Gibbs had just spent two years drafting and signing FA to switch to the 34 defense. So Gibbs only worked with the group for a couple of years. It takes time to build a defense. Right now you are seeing the fruits of his labor. So I am not going to ride anybody out of town just yet. Sean is safe because the two years spent building the offense has worked out great, It is still a work in progress and done yet. So lets see what happens with the defense, now that the offense is ahead of schedule in the rebuilding plan.

CheramieIII · 01-27-2008, 10:06 AM

Orgeron will help Gibss tremendously. Gibbs as a few have said will never be fired. Gibbs is not a bad DC either and you'll see that once he gets some DB's and DL to help him a bit.

01-26-2008, 02:39 PM	#11
WVSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 807	Re: greg williams skins dc let go Originally Posted by Cancer Beater Like most of you, I too live and die for the black and gold. I like all of you, spend $1,000's of dollars on this team every year. I no longer get my hopes up. I do get MADD at the reality of the situation though. I get mad, actually its probably a bit closer to furious....but I usually end up laughing at the situation (though its more of that maniacal, I'm going crazy kind of laugh.)

01-26-2008, 02:56 PM	#12
Cancer Beater 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 154	Re: greg williams skins dc let go Originally Posted by WVSaint I get mad, actually its probably a bit closer to furious....but I usually end up laughing at the situation (though its more of that maniacal, I'm going crazy kind of laugh.) I just noticed lastweek how little Cognac I drink when the Saints aren't playing.
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01-26-2008, 04:19 PM	#13
Turbo Saint SoCal Saint Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: OB - San Diego, CA Posts: 726	Re: greg williams skins dc let go yea being a secondary skins fan...we definitely need williams...he made an awesome defense in DC and we need that same shindig here. get him!

01-26-2008, 07:15 PM	#14
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,047 Blog Entries: 3	Re: greg williams skins dc let go Originally Posted by Cancer Beater Like most of you, I too live and die for the black and gold. I like all of you, spend $1,000's of dollars on this team every year. I no longer get my hopes up. I do get MADD at the reality of the situation though. CB I'm right there with 'ya... I manage to make the first home game every year and when you add flight, hotel, dining, drinks, merchandise, casino, etc... it gets way past ugly. Despite what the organization has shown us for decades, I can't give up on the fact that things will be different "this year". My optimism is fading. Guess free agency will be the first glimpse into what '08 has in store...

01-26-2008, 09:24 PM	#15
WVSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 807	Re: greg williams skins dc let go Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Guess free agency will be the first glimpse into what '08 has in store... a lot of the same that the past offseasons have shown

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01-26-2008, 09:24 PM	#16
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: greg williams skins dc let go I want to see what Gibbs does if they let him sign better FA and draft defense. I am just wondering thats all.

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Cancer Beater 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 154	Re: greg williams skins dc let go Originally Posted by hagan714 I want to see what Gibbs does if they let him sign better FA and draft defense. I am just wondering thats all. Gibbs didn't do much in Dallas with Pro-bowl defensive players.
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01-27-2008, 01:29 AM	#18
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: greg williams skins dc let go I am actually going to take up for Gibbs. Right now, he is coaching out of his element. The Saints need to get him the players that he needs to be successful. That is simply a transformation to the 3-4 scheme that Gibbs works best with. It would take a major over hall, but a major over hall is needed already. Why the Saints played the last two seasons in the typical 4-3 scheme is just beyond me.

01-27-2008, 05:58 AM	#19
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: greg williams skins dc let go Originally Posted by Cancer Beater Gibbs didn't do much in Dallas with Pro-bowl defensive players. With that in mind, remember before he came here The Tuna and Gibbs had just spent two years drafting and signing FA to switch to the 34 defense. So Gibbs only worked with the group for a couple of years. It takes time to build a defense. Right now you are seeing the fruits of his labor. So I am not going to ride anybody out of town just yet. Sean is safe because the two years spent building the offense has worked out great, It is still a work in progress and done yet. So lets see what happens with the defense, now that the offense is ahead of schedule in the rebuilding plan.
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01-27-2008, 10:06 AM	#20
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,497 Blog Entries: 3	Re: greg williams skins dc let go Orgeron will help Gibss tremendously. Gibbs as a few have said will never be fired. Gibbs is not a bad DC either and you'll see that once he gets some DB's and DL to help him a bit.