BoroSaint

I think you would be amazed at what a hard-nosed REAL middle linebacker would do for the toughness on our defense saintmissile. I think that the type of players we have on D have more to do with how soft we are rather than coaching. I am of the opinion that defenses take on the persona of their MLB most of the time. How much softer can you get than Mark Simoneau?

And for the Venturi reference, when did he ever have talent either? I'm glad he's gone too, but we don't know how good he may have been if he had say the Ravens' defensive players in his arsenal.

Fact is, we have only had 4 steady performers on defense for the last few years: Scott Fujita, Will Smith, Charles Grant, and Mike McKenzie. On top of that, two of those players (Smith and Grant) haven't even really been that consistent. You can't have a good defense with only 4 good players, especially when 1 or 2 of them tend to disappear each game. Give us some playmakers and see what Gibbs does with them. If he fails, get his butt outta here!