Deuce-----what is he worth?

Tobias-Reiper · 02-13-2008, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Edgerrin James had both ACL's torn, and he is still a factor.

No, he is not.

I will even say that I think Duece is a better RB than James

Yes, he is.

TheDeuce · 02-13-2008, 08:31 PM

I might be alone on this board, but I am sick to death of the Reggie bashing. He's not being used right, in my opinion, and that's a crime because he is so special with the ball in his hands. Last year was ridiculous how poorly Payton used him. Look at last year compared to the end of 2006 when Payton was lining him up in the backfield and then out in the slot and creating mismatches. Last season they lined him up in the backfield and threw a screen or a swing pass, or ran it off the tackle 75% of the time. If they want him to be effective, they need to work the offense around him because he can change the game.

rjakapeanut · 02-13-2008, 08:53 PM

yeah people need to stop bashing Reggie he'll be a pro bowler for many years in a row starting in the 2008 or 2009 season, lol.

papz · 02-13-2008, 09:09 PM

I still believe Reggie is the future running back of this franchise. I've been backing him all season long as some may have noticed.

hagan714 · 02-14-2008, 05:26 AM

People like to play the blame game. This is a unit problem, not a player problem. We do not have an OL built for the run and with defense keying on Bush he did not stand a chance really. Can he do thing differently? yes. But it is a unit problem

SapperSaint · 02-14-2008, 08:36 AM

I guess I "P.P.ed" is everybody's fruit loops when I said something bad about Reggie.

Sorry guys, but I look at it this way.

If you buy a brand new, top of the line Ferrari; and it has engine trouble for the first two years how long are you going to be proud of it?

Sure, you have a Ferrari....but it only goes 55MPH.

When Deuce went down, Payton used Reggie just what he was drafted for.......OUR RUNNINGBACK. How was that misusing him? I won't say I'm bashing him, just very disappointed. If he needs to be a WR the move him to #2 WR. Which by the way is not what he was drafted for. Yes, I will agree, he needs to be in open field to work his magic. And yes, I know he can work his magic in the open field. But doesn't that show that he has a very small limitation window?

Just make sure you are wanting him on this team because of what can do/has done in the NFL and not from past glory as an NCAA player.

rjakapeanut · 02-14-2008, 01:32 PM

bottom line is Reggie Bush is a Brian Westbrook/Tiki Barber type player and has similar numbers for his first couple seasons. I know that he was drafted extremely high but thats how it works with the NFL Draft. if your actual draft position had as much to do with your overall skill/potential as an NFL prospect as it should then we wouldn't have had any shot at nabbing Colston in the 7th round, get me?

yeah. he's not a 2nd overall impact type player yet, but he'll end up being worth it.

Cancer Beater · 02-14-2008, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by rjakapeanut

bottom line is Reggie Bush is a Brian Westbrook/Tiki Barber type player and has similar numbers for his first couple seasons. I know that he was drafted extremely high but thats how it works with the NFL Draft. if your actual draft position had as much to do with your overall skill/potential as an NFL prospect as it should then we wouldn't have had any shot at nabbing Colston in the 7th round, get me?

yeah. he's not a 2nd overall impact type player yet, but he'll end up being worth it.

If Bush wasn't a threat, defenses wouldn't keep 3 dudes watching him.
Reggie will do great things for this team.

02-13-2008, 04:39 PM	#21
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Deuce-----what is he worth? Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Edgerrin James had both ACL's torn, and he is still a factor. No, he is not. I will even say that I think Duece is a better RB than James Yes, he is.

02-13-2008, 08:31 PM	#22
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: Deuce-----what is he worth? I might be alone on this board, but I am sick to death of the Reggie bashing. He's not being used right, in my opinion, and that's a crime because he is so special with the ball in his hands. Last year was ridiculous how poorly Payton used him. Look at last year compared to the end of 2006 when Payton was lining him up in the backfield and then out in the slot and creating mismatches. Last season they lined him up in the backfield and threw a screen or a swing pass, or ran it off the tackle 75% of the time. If they want him to be effective, they need to work the offense around him because he can change the game.
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02-13-2008, 08:53 PM	#23
rjakapeanut 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 204	Re: Deuce-----what is he worth? yeah people need to stop bashing Reggie he'll be a pro bowler for many years in a row starting in the 2008 or 2009 season, lol.
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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	Re: Deuce-----what is he worth? I still believe Reggie is the future running back of this franchise. I've been backing him all season long as some may have noticed.

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SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Deuce-----what is he worth? I guess I "P.P.ed" is everybody's fruit loops when I said something bad about Reggie. Sorry guys, but I look at it this way. If you buy a brand new, top of the line Ferrari; and it has engine trouble for the first two years how long are you going to be proud of it? Sure, you have a Ferrari....but it only goes 55MPH. When Deuce went down, Payton used Reggie just what he was drafted for.......OUR RUNNINGBACK. How was that misusing him? I won't say I'm bashing him, just very disappointed. If he needs to be a WR the move him to #2 WR. Which by the way is not what he was drafted for. Yes, I will agree, he needs to be in open field to work his magic. And yes, I know he can work his magic in the open field. But doesn't that show that he has a very small limitation window? Just make sure you are wanting him on this team because of what can do/has done in the NFL and not from past glory as an NCAA player.
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rjakapeanut 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 204	Re: Deuce-----what is he worth? bottom line is Reggie Bush is a Brian Westbrook/Tiki Barber type player and has similar numbers for his first couple seasons. I know that he was drafted extremely high but thats how it works with the NFL Draft. if your actual draft position had as much to do with your overall skill/potential as an NFL prospect as it should then we wouldn't have had any shot at nabbing Colston in the 7th round, get me? yeah. he's not a 2nd overall impact type player yet, but he'll end up being worth it.
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Cancer Beater 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 154	Re: Deuce-----what is he worth? Originally Posted by rjakapeanut bottom line is Reggie Bush is a Brian Westbrook/Tiki Barber type player and has similar numbers for his first couple seasons. I know that he was drafted extremely high but thats how it works with the NFL Draft. if your actual draft position had as much to do with your overall skill/potential as an NFL prospect as it should then we wouldn't have had any shot at nabbing Colston in the 7th round, get me? yeah. he's not a 2nd overall impact type player yet, but he'll end up being worth it. If Bush wasn't a threat, defenses wouldn't keep 3 dudes watching him. Reggie will do great things for this team.
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