saints to pick up some cfl players?

papz · 02-18-2008, 01:30 PM

Yet all of us here rant about the Saints' problems evaluating second tier talent and going after guys who are injury prone and over the peak in their career.... How is this any different?

Well I never said we've had trouble evaluating second tier talent. But even if we did, does that mean we should stop trying? It's not like the guys we're considering bringing are over the age of 30 and injury prone. These guys are most likely just camp bodies... just like undrafted free agents we're going to sign after the draft. It's not like we're looking for starters or anything over there. Let them come in and compete... there's absolutely NOTHING to lose here.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-19-2008, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by papz

Well I never said we've had trouble evaluating second tier talent.

Um... That would be me.

But even if we did, does that mean we should stop trying?

Ummm... Yes. We should stop trying.

It's not like the guys we're considering bringing are over the age of 30 and injury prone. These guys are most likely just camp bodies... just like undrafted free agents we're going to sign after the draft. It's not like we're looking for starters or anything over there. Let them come in and compete... there's absolutely NOTHING to lose here.

I see two problems with that argument. The first is that the organization is wasting time evaluating such talent instead of getting the top tier talent that we actually need. The second problem is more pervasive. That is the thinking in the organization that they can succeed with "diamonds in the rough" which causes them to not try to go after top tier guys.

The Saints need top tier guys because way too often plays get screwed up due to coaching and scheme. You need top tier talent to overcome those obstacles.

I know that's sad to say, but I think it's true. The offense would not be anywhere near where it is now if Payton had started off with a rookie QB. Brees makes that offense go. Top tier talent.

We need that on the defensive side of the ball.

So don't waste time on CFLers, or drafting in the backwoods, or looking at mid tier free agents. Get the super tackles, LBs, and CBs in the league to make the defense better now. Then back them up by drafting the best atheletes we can find.

That's the only way to get our problems on defense fixed.

SFIAH

02-18-2008, 01:30 PM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,794	Re: saints to pick up some cfl players? Yet all of us here rant about the Saints' problems evaluating second tier talent and going after guys who are injury prone and over the peak in their career.... How is this any different? Well I never said we've had trouble evaluating second tier talent. But even if we did, does that mean we should stop trying? It's not like the guys we're considering bringing are over the age of 30 and injury prone. These guys are most likely just camp bodies... just like undrafted free agents we're going to sign after the draft. It's not like we're looking for starters or anything over there. Let them come in and compete... there's absolutely NOTHING to lose here.

02-19-2008, 07:10 AM	#2
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,786	Re: saints to pick up some cfl play Originally Posted by papz Well I never said we've had trouble evaluating second tier talent. Um... That would be me. But even if we did, does that mean we should stop trying? Ummm... Yes. We should stop trying. It's not like the guys we're considering bringing are over the age of 30 and injury prone. These guys are most likely just camp bodies... just like undrafted free agents we're going to sign after the draft. It's not like we're looking for starters or anything over there. Let them come in and compete... there's absolutely NOTHING to lose here. I see two problems with that argument. The first is that the organization is wasting time evaluating such talent instead of getting the top tier talent that we actually need. The second problem is more pervasive. That is the thinking in the organization that they can succeed with "diamonds in the rough" which causes them to not try to go after top tier guys. The Saints need top tier guys because way too often plays get screwed up due to coaching and scheme. You need top tier talent to overcome those obstacles. I know that's sad to say, but I think it's true. The offense would not be anywhere near where it is now if Payton had started off with a rookie QB. Brees makes that offense go. Top tier talent. We need that on the defensive side of the ball. So don't waste time on CFLers, or drafting in the backwoods, or looking at mid tier free agents. Get the super tackles, LBs, and CBs in the league to make the defense better now. Then back them up by drafting the best atheletes we can find. That's the only way to get our problems on defense fixed. SFIAH
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