Meacham

NarwhalHunter · 02-19-2008, 09:21 AM

Don't bash on Meachem too much. We were in the playoff hunt up until the last game, so it wasn't like they were snubbing him for no good reason. Letting him redshirt this year and get a feel for the offense will pay dividends down the line. I expect he'll tear it up in camp.

For that matter, the majority of this draft class will go a long way to building a solid foundation for the future of the team. Was it lightning in a bottle the way the '06 draft turned out? No, but it'd be hard to even get close to that. Was it a solid group of talent that built up our o-line for the next several seasons, got us the perfect compliment to our #1 receiver, and a corner with a lot of potential? Let's talk about this draft in after a few more seasons.

frankeefrank · 02-19-2008, 05:01 PM

I said this on draft day last year and I will say it now...
This was the worst possible pick for this team.
BUST

We could have taken any number of guys who contributed right away.
If this guy was worth anything he would have helped our play off run.
Joe staley, Ben Grubbs, Greg Olsen, Anthony Gonzalez
Coulda, woulda and shoulda

hagan714 · 02-19-2008, 06:29 PM

he is healthy and spent the year getting stronger and will be ready. He knows the play book and the coaches have been working with him. Odds are in his favor to blow us all away next year.

rjakapeanut · 02-19-2008, 07:02 PM

don't be so quick to throw out our 2007 draft. young will be our starting CB next year, and he'll be solid as ****. meachem should be able to contribute, hopefully. allman is going to compete for a starting spot. pittman didn't pay off for us but atleast he competed for and lost the roster spot to pierre thomas, eh?

. if he were any good we wouldn't have pierre thomas right now and we'd probably regret it down the line. hahaha.

mikesaintfan · 02-20-2008, 02:12 PM

has he ever had any "character issues"?
last year may have humbled him a bit after being a 1st round pick
could be a good thing for him and the team
lets all hope for the best.........GO SAINTS...WHO DAT

Bobaganoosh · 02-20-2008, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by NarwhalHunter

Don't bash on Meachem too much. We were in the playoff hunt up until the last game, so it wasn't like they were snubbing him for no good reason. Letting him redshirt this year and get a feel for the offense will pay dividends down the line. I expect he'll tear it up in camp.

For that matter, the majority of this draft class will go a long way to building a solid foundation for the future of the team. Was it lightning in a bottle the way the '06 draft turned out? No, but it'd be hard to even get close to that. Was it a solid group of talent that built up our o-line for the next several seasons, got us the perfect compliment to our #1 receiver, and a corner with a lot of potential? Let's talk about this draft in after a few more seasons.

This is a great post from a fan who doesnt have blinders on. Sure it would have been nice for all of draft picks to play right away and help but it didnt work that way...yet that doesnt mean that none of them will pan out. Usama Young has good upside. You can bet that Alleman will be an important piece to our O-line this year. Bushrod will have a role as well. As for Meachem, the saints made the pick with the future in mind. I cant say it enough. Patten, Henderson, Moore, and Copper are all FA's. At least now they have a guy with first round talent who should be ready to step in and contribute this year. If not, we would be forced to bring back Henderson and draft a WR in the first round or two...but we dont have to do that now. Meachem is going to be fine.

frankeefrank · 02-20-2008, 03:54 PM

Boba,
This isn't Major League baseball...
Remember Jerry Glanville?
This is the NFL, which stands for not for long when you make these kind of draft picks. There is no minor league system for these guys to get reps.

Bottom Line: These guys did not help us last year. So in essence they are still un-proven. Just like the guys we will draft this year.

First Round talent????
Meachem????
What has he ever done to prove he has first round talent?
Run a fast 40?
I undertand if you feel some fans have "blinders" on...
But fans with blinders can still see better than those who are BLIND

SapperSaint · 02-20-2008, 04:11 PM

I will open a can of worms with this statement...so here goes.

I would be more apt to say Reggie is a bust before I would call Mecham a bust, at this particular moment. Reggie has not been overly impressive the past two years, thus, my opinion about Reggie. Yes, I want to see him become this great back that everyone says he's going to be, but he just hasn't shown it.....YET.

Mechum hasn't even HAD THE CHANCE to show if he is or ain't going to be a star wideout.....YET. Give the guy a chance. We will know this year if he is gold or bust. I have caught alot of flak about "Downing, Bashing, or just Being Mean" towards Reggie. Reggies had two years already to show us he is worth more to the Saints than just putting us into Pepsi, ADIDAS, VISA, and Free-Flo-Do commercials.

Why won't some of you give him the same chance you are giving Reggie?????

Let the "Sapper Bashing" begin!!!!!

saintsfan1976 · 02-20-2008, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

Say what you will, but in two more years it will be undeniable that this past draft will go down as one of the worst in Saints history. Unless Meachem really steps up this year, this was a total bust draft. Put any spin on it you want, but you can't hide facts.

But that's just what everyone is saying, Missile - there's NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE yet to make a judgment! It's not all up to Meach.

hagan714 · 02-20-2008, 07:15 PM

Yep do not kill the 2007 draft. If they were drafted in 2006 they would have had more playing time. The OL needs some tweaking not complete rebuilding. So why are you surprised they had a hard time getting on the field. The OL is good and will get better. Mech has to see the field before I pass judgment. I like the way they handled it. Get the knee worked on, then work it into shape and work on the play book at the same time. Makes sense to me.

02-19-2008, 09:21 AM	#11
NarwhalHunter 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hattiesburger with Cheese Posts: 146 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Meacham Don't bash on Meachem too much. We were in the playoff hunt up until the last game, so it wasn't like they were snubbing him for no good reason. Letting him redshirt this year and get a feel for the offense will pay dividends down the line. I expect he'll tear it up in camp. For that matter, the majority of this draft class will go a long way to building a solid foundation for the future of the team. Was it lightning in a bottle the way the '06 draft turned out? No, but it'd be hard to even get close to that. Was it a solid group of talent that built up our o-line for the next several seasons, got us the perfect compliment to our #1 receiver, and a corner with a lot of potential? Let's talk about this draft in after a few more seasons.

02-19-2008, 05:01 PM	#12
frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	Re: Meacham I said this on draft day last year and I will say it now... This was the worst possible pick for this team. BUST We could have taken any number of guys who contributed right away. If this guy was worth anything he would have helped our play off run. Joe staley, Ben Grubbs, Greg Olsen, Anthony Gonzalez Coulda, woulda and shoulda
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02-19-2008, 06:29 PM	#13
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Meacham he is healthy and spent the year getting stronger and will be ready. He knows the play book and the coaches have been working with him. Odds are in his favor to blow us all away next year.

02-19-2008, 07:02 PM	#14
rjakapeanut 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 204	Re: Meacham don't be so quick to throw out our 2007 draft. young will be our starting CB next year, and he'll be solid as ****. meachem should be able to contribute, hopefully. allman is going to compete for a starting spot. pittman didn't pay off for us but atleast he competed for and lost the roster spot to pierre thomas, eh? . if he were any good we wouldn't have pierre thomas right now and we'd probably regret it down the line. hahaha.
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02-20-2008, 02:12 PM	#15
mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	Re: Meacham has he ever had any "character issues"? last year may have humbled him a bit after being a 1st round pick could be a good thing for him and the team lets all hope for the best.........GO SAINTS...WHO DAT

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02-20-2008, 02:46 PM	#16
Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Meacham Originally Posted by NarwhalHunter Don't bash on Meachem too much. We were in the playoff hunt up until the last game, so it wasn't like they were snubbing him for no good reason. Letting him redshirt this year and get a feel for the offense will pay dividends down the line. I expect he'll tear it up in camp. For that matter, the majority of this draft class will go a long way to building a solid foundation for the future of the team. Was it lightning in a bottle the way the '06 draft turned out? No, but it'd be hard to even get close to that. Was it a solid group of talent that built up our o-line for the next several seasons, got us the perfect compliment to our #1 receiver, and a corner with a lot of potential? Let's talk about this draft in after a few more seasons. This is a great post from a fan who doesnt have blinders on. Sure it would have been nice for all of draft picks to play right away and help but it didnt work that way...yet that doesnt mean that none of them will pan out. Usama Young has good upside. You can bet that Alleman will be an important piece to our O-line this year. Bushrod will have a role as well. As for Meachem, the saints made the pick with the future in mind. I cant say it enough. Patten, Henderson, Moore, and Copper are all FA's. At least now they have a guy with first round talent who should be ready to step in and contribute this year. If not, we would be forced to bring back Henderson and draft a WR in the first round or two...but we dont have to do that now. Meachem is going to be fine.
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02-20-2008, 03:54 PM	#17
frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	Re: Meacham Boba, This isn't Major League baseball... Remember Jerry Glanville? This is the NFL, which stands for not for long when you make these kind of draft picks. There is no minor league system for these guys to get reps. Bottom Line: These guys did not help us last year. So in essence they are still un-proven. Just like the guys we will draft this year. First Round talent???? Meachem???? What has he ever done to prove he has first round talent? Run a fast 40? I undertand if you feel some fans have "blinders" on... But fans with blinders can still see better than those who are BLIND
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02-20-2008, 04:11 PM	#18
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Meacham I will open a can of worms with this statement...so here goes. I would be more apt to say Reggie is a bust before I would call Mecham a bust, at this particular moment. Reggie has not been overly impressive the past two years, thus, my opinion about Reggie. Yes, I want to see him become this great back that everyone says he's going to be, but he just hasn't shown it.....YET. Mechum hasn't even HAD THE CHANCE to show if he is or ain't going to be a star wideout.....YET. Give the guy a chance. We will know this year if he is gold or bust. I have caught alot of flak about "Downing, Bashing, or just Being Mean" towards Reggie. Reggies had two years already to show us he is worth more to the Saints than just putting us into Pepsi, ADIDAS, VISA, and Free-Flo-Do commercials. Why won't some of you give him the same chance you are giving Reggie????? Let the "Sapper Bashing" begin!!!!!
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02-20-2008, 04:20 PM	#19
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,547 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Meacham Originally Posted by saintsmissile Say what you will, but in two more years it will be undeniable that this past draft will go down as one of the worst in Saints history. Unless Meachem really steps up this year, this was a total bust draft. Put any spin on it you want, but you can't hide facts. But that's just what everyone is saying, Missile - there's NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE yet to make a judgment! It's not all up to Meach.

02-20-2008, 07:15 PM	#20
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Meacham Yep do not kill the 2007 draft. If they were drafted in 2006 they would have had more playing time. The OL needs some tweaking not complete rebuilding. So why are you surprised they had a hard time getting on the field. The OL is good and will get better. Mech has to see the field before I pass judgment. I like the way they handled it. Get the knee worked on, then work it into shape and work on the play book at the same time. Makes sense to me.