Vilma can fly away

saintsfan1976 · 02-22-2008, 08:28 AM

Jonathan Vilma can fly away

"It's unclear what the Jets are seeking, but there's no doubt that Vilma's value took a hit because of major knee surgery last November. Vilma has started jogging and hopes to be running full speed in about a month, he wrote this week on his Web site. If he can show he's healthy before the April 26 draft, it will greatly enhance his stock. Sources believe the Jets could get a third-round pick, perhaps slightly higher, for a healthy Vilma.

The Jaguars and Saints are believed to be among the potential suitors. The Saints have made no secret of their desire to acquire a middle linebacker, as they've already made an offer to former Dolphin Zach Thomas."

Not sure of the extent of his knee injury? What do ya'll think?

D_it_up · 02-22-2008, 09:34 AM

I wanted this guy back when he was available in the draft. As long as his knee is 100% recovered, then I still wouldn't mind seeing him in a Saints uniform. If they don't pick up Thomas, then I would say pull the trigger on this deal. I wouldn't mind seeing a third rounder slip away for Vilma.

hagan714 · 02-22-2008, 09:49 AM

I like it. Now the medical is key. I have already said I also like Dewayne Robertson at DT. Neither fit the 34 defense and I wonder if a package deal could be reached involving both. Maybe the two for our #1 and Stinch (they need OL ).
Greed has me wanting to swapping seconds or getting their third to make it work. That way the jets could try to move up in round 1. not like it would be a major cap hit. Two number 1s for another 2 number 1s for the jets. We would get both cap hits but would miss out on the #10 salary hit and Stinchs cap numbers would help absorb the money.
Okay we have all been here before and I remember the responses and I still like the idea.

LordOfEntropy · 02-22-2008, 10:53 AM

Dewayne Robertson and a healthy Vilma just sounds too good to be true.

saintsfan1976 · 02-22-2008, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I like it. Now the medical is key. I have already said I also like Dewayne Robertson at DT. Neither fit the 34 defense and I wonder if a package deal could be reached involving both. Maybe the two for our #1 and Stinch (they need OL ).
Greed has me wanting to swapping seconds or getting their third to make it work. That way the jets could try to move up in round 1. not like it would be a major cap hit. Two number 1s for another 2 number 1s for the jets. We would get both cap hits but would miss out on the #10 salary hit and Stinchs cap numbers would help absorb the money.
Okay we have all been here before and I remember the responses and I still like the idea.

With 39 million to work with, why would we sweat #10 money?? I feel like we NEED this pick to put talent in the secondary... Now giving up a second round pick sounds very nice!

Bobaganoosh · 02-22-2008, 12:36 PM

I have Vilma as the number 2 target on my offseason wish list. Forget about Zach and Morgan and Briggs...this is the guy the Saints should make a serious play for. Every single player in the league has some kind of issue...whether it be salary, injury, off field, lazy, or just a plain old butthole.

This guy makes a ton of sense.

NarwhalHunter · 02-22-2008, 12:54 PM

That microfracture surgery scares me. That's a bad injury to try and come back from. If he's healthy, though, he's a monster. If he passes the physical and we can get him for a third round pick, I say pull the trigger. We could throw in Stinch and maybe use our second rounder to try and bring in Robertson too.

TheDeuce · 02-22-2008, 02:02 PM

I completely agree with Narwhal, that's one of the worst knee surgeries you can have. I wouldn't trade anything more than a third for him, and if I could I'd try to make it a 4th. He might be a good player, but microfracture isn't something to mess around with, it's one of those things where the guy is never the same. I say that if we are really interested in Vilma, we do an EXTENSIVE check on him with a gaggle of doctors. I'm talking like 12th and 13th opinions here to make sure that his knee heals the way it's supposed to heal.

FireVenturi · 02-22-2008, 03:39 PM

I would rather Vilma over Thomas without a doubt....A-Vilma is younger...B-VIlma has a knee injury, which will re-occur less than head injuries. 3rd rd pk and Simenoau(Is he gone yet?)

QBREES9 · 02-22-2008, 09:05 PM

Jonathan Vilma can fly away

The Jaguars and Saints are believed to be among the potential suitors. The Saints have made no secret of their desire to acquire a middle linebacker, as they've already made an offer to former Dolphin Zach Thomas. Former Jets defensive coordinator Donnie Henderson was recently hired by the Jaguars as an assistant, which explains their interest.

02-22-2008, 09:34 AM	#2
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints interested in Vilma? I wanted this guy back when he was available in the draft. As long as his knee is 100% recovered, then I still wouldn't mind seeing him in a Saints uniform. If they don't pick up Thomas, then I would say pull the trigger on this deal. I wouldn't mind seeing a third rounder slip away for Vilma.

02-22-2008, 09:49 AM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints interested in Vilma? I like it. Now the medical is key. I have already said I also like Dewayne Robertson at DT. Neither fit the 34 defense and I wonder if a package deal could be reached involving both. Maybe the two for our #1 and Stinch (they need OL ). Greed has me wanting to swapping seconds or getting their third to make it work. That way the jets could try to move up in round 1. not like it would be a major cap hit. Two number 1s for another 2 number 1s for the jets. We would get both cap hits but would miss out on the #10 salary hit and Stinchs cap numbers would help absorb the money. Okay we have all been here before and I remember the responses and I still like the idea.
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02-22-2008, 10:53 AM	#4
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: Saints interested in Vilma? Dewayne Robertson and a healthy Vilma just sounds too good to be true.

02-22-2008, 11:37 AM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints interested in Vilma? Originally Posted by hagan714 I like it. Now the medical is key. I have already said I also like Dewayne Robertson at DT. Neither fit the 34 defense and I wonder if a package deal could be reached involving both. Maybe the two for our #1 and Stinch (they need OL ). Greed has me wanting to swapping seconds or getting their third to make it work. That way the jets could try to move up in round 1. not like it would be a major cap hit. Two number 1s for another 2 number 1s for the jets. We would get both cap hits but would miss out on the #10 salary hit and Stinchs cap numbers would help absorb the money. Okay we have all been here before and I remember the responses and I still like the idea. With 39 million to work with, why would we sweat #10 money?? I feel like we NEED this pick to put talent in the secondary... Now giving up a second round pick sounds very nice!

02-22-2008, 12:36 PM	#6
Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints interested in Vilma? I have Vilma as the number 2 target on my offseason wish list. Forget about Zach and Morgan and Briggs...this is the guy the Saints should make a serious play for. Every single player in the league has some kind of issue...whether it be salary, injury, off field, lazy, or just a plain old butthole. This guy makes a ton of sense.

02-22-2008, 08:28 AM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Saints interested in Vilma? Jonathan Vilma can fly away "It's unclear what the Jets are seeking, but there's no doubt that Vilma's value took a hit because of major knee surgery last November. Vilma has started jogging and hopes to be running full speed in about a month, he wrote this week on his Web site. If he can show he's healthy before the April 26 draft, it will greatly enhance his stock. Sources believe the Jets could get a third-round pick, perhaps slightly higher, for a healthy Vilma. The Jaguars and Saints are believed to be among the potential suitors. The Saints have made no secret of their desire to acquire a middle linebacker, as they've already made an offer to former Dolphin Zach Thomas." Not sure of the extent of his knee injury? What do ya'll think?

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02-22-2008, 12:54 PM	#7
NarwhalHunter 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hattiesburger with Cheese Posts: 146 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints interested in Vilma? That microfracture surgery scares me. That's a bad injury to try and come back from. If he's healthy, though, he's a monster. If he passes the physical and we can get him for a third round pick, I say pull the trigger. We could throw in Stinch and maybe use our second rounder to try and bring in Robertson too.

02-22-2008, 02:02 PM	#8
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: Saints interested in Vilma? I completely agree with Narwhal, that's one of the worst knee surgeries you can have. I wouldn't trade anything more than a third for him, and if I could I'd try to make it a 4th. He might be a good player, but microfracture isn't something to mess around with, it's one of those things where the guy is never the same. I say that if we are really interested in Vilma, we do an EXTENSIVE check on him with a gaggle of doctors. I'm talking like 12th and 13th opinions here to make sure that his knee heals the way it's supposed to heal.
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02-22-2008, 03:39 PM	#9
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Re: Saints interested in Vilma? I would rather Vilma over Thomas without a doubt....A-Vilma is younger...B-VIlma has a knee injury, which will re-occur less than head injuries. 3rd rd pk and Simenoau(Is he gone yet?)

02-22-2008, 09:05 PM	#10
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Vilma can fly away Jonathan Vilma can fly away The Jaguars and Saints are believed to be among the potential suitors. The Saints have made no secret of their desire to acquire a middle linebacker, as they've already made an offer to former Dolphin Zach Thomas. Former Jets defensive coordinator Donnie Henderson was recently hired by the Jaguars as an assistant, which explains their interest.