saints want shockey

QBREES9 · 02-28-2008, 10:29 PM

Y ?????????

FireVenturi · 02-28-2008, 10:35 PM

Hopefully the Vilma deal will involve a conditional pick. Hell the Shockey trade too, if he calls someone a Homo we only have to give them a 7th!!

papz · 02-28-2008, 10:43 PM

We're making an effort to get better... can't complain about that. I wouldn't mind Shockey here as he would finally give us a legitimate TE threat we haven't had in a very long time. I am concerned about giving up our draft picks though... we have a the Vilma deal going on too. What's going to be left to draft with?

pakowitz · 02-28-2008, 10:51 PM

nicebush25

saints want shockey

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herd on espn radio from chris mortensen that the saints have made a trade offer to the giants for jeremy shockey. they have also made an offer to the jets for jonathan vilma.

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thanks,

pak

WVSaint · 02-28-2008, 11:00 PM

I was thinking the same thing papz. the shockey deal was said to be "substantial" i dont know what that means, but i hope its not our first or 2nd.

we dont have any tradable players that can be called substantial, i certainly dont think shockey is first rounder material. maybe we swapped firsts with them? im not against the idea of bringing shockey in, i just dont wanna give up much needed draft picks. we cant get younger and more talented on D by trading all our picks.

JigsawofPoker · 02-28-2008, 11:00 PM

I love the aggressiveness the Saints are showing this offseason. They are slowly but surely making a name for themselves on a National level as a top-tier NFL team.

Bobaganoosh · 02-28-2008, 11:29 PM

good point, whether we agree or disagree with the moves the Saints are contemplating, they are doing what we all wanted them to do...which is make a concerted effort to improve this team.

TheDeuce · 02-28-2008, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by papz

We're making an effort to get better... can't complain about that. I wouldn't mind Shockey here as he would finally give us a legitimate TE threat we haven't had in a very long time. I am concerned about giving up our draft picks though... we have a the Vilma deal going on too. What's going to be left to draft with?

Great call, I love that we aren't being complacent. I actually wouldn't even mind trading some of our later draft picks (ie, anything below the 3rd). Shockey is a proven Pro Bowl talent that would add another dimension to our offense. Despite his attitude, which IMO, has been better over the last year or two, I still think his ability outweighs his attitude problems.

Somebody mentioned that maybe we swapped first round draft picks with the Giants, which would be interesting. While that would be a lot of value to give up for Shockey, I really don't know if would end up being that bad. We could still take a guy like DRC or maybe even Keith Rivers if he's still there. I don't know, whatever happens, I just like that they are being proactive.

MatthewT · 02-28-2008, 11:53 PM

I will definitely root for Shockey if he comes to New Orleans. On that note, I am not totally convinced he is an upgrade. Extremely talented yes. But over his career he has dropped way too many easy passes. I can see us all here after a game in which he drops an easy TD, $itching at the Saints front office for trading for this dude.

5800AirlineDrive · 02-29-2008, 12:12 AM

From RotoWorld:

"Report: Saints call Giants about TE Shockey"

"ESPN's John Clayton reports the Saints have contacted the Giants about Jeremy Shockey.
He probably isn't available, but it's interesting nonetheless. New Orleans' top two TEs from '07, Eric Johnson and Billy Miller, are both unsigned. We still can't imagine the Giants moving Shockey for more than a package of picks, including the Saints' second-rounder (No. 40). The Jints may even ask for a first. Feb. 29 - 12:03 am et"

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Personally, I hope it's not true. Let him throw his helmet around someone else's bench. We don't need his drama.

02-28-2008, 10:29 PM	#11
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02-28-2008, 10:35 PM	#12
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Re: saints want shockey Hopefully the Vilma deal will involve a conditional pick. Hell the Shockey trade too, if he calls someone a Homo we only have to give them a 7th!!

02-28-2008, 10:43 PM	#13
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: saints want shockey We're making an effort to get better... can't complain about that. I wouldn't mind Shockey here as he would finally give us a legitimate TE threat we haven't had in a very long time. I am concerned about giving up our draft picks though... we have a the Vilma deal going on too. What's going to be left to draft with?

02-28-2008, 10:51 PM	#14
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: saints want shockey nicebush25 saints want shockey -------------------------------------------------------------------------- herd on espn radio from chris mortensen that the saints have made a trade offer to the giants for jeremy shockey. they have also made an offer to the jets for jonathan vilma. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- this has already been posted... USE THE SEARCH FEATURE!! thanks, pak
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WVSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 807	Re: saints want shockey I was thinking the same thing papz. the shockey deal was said to be "substantial" i dont know what that means, but i hope its not our first or 2nd. we dont have any tradable players that can be called substantial, i certainly dont think shockey is first rounder material. maybe we swapped firsts with them? im not against the idea of bringing shockey in, i just dont wanna give up much needed draft picks. we cant get younger and more talented on D by trading all our picks.

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JigsawofPoker Rookie Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 10	Re: saints want shockey I love the aggressiveness the Saints are showing this offseason. They are slowly but surely making a name for themselves on a National level as a top-tier NFL team.
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Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	Re: saints want shockey good point, whether we agree or disagree with the moves the Saints are contemplating, they are doing what we all wanted them to do...which is make a concerted effort to improve this team.

02-28-2008, 11:45 PM	#18
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: saints want shockey Originally Posted by papz We're making an effort to get better... can't complain about that. I wouldn't mind Shockey here as he would finally give us a legitimate TE threat we haven't had in a very long time. I am concerned about giving up our draft picks though... we have a the Vilma deal going on too. What's going to be left to draft with? Great call, I love that we aren't being complacent. I actually wouldn't even mind trading some of our later draft picks (ie, anything below the 3rd). Shockey is a proven Pro Bowl talent that would add another dimension to our offense. Despite his attitude, which IMO, has been better over the last year or two, I still think his ability outweighs his attitude problems. Somebody mentioned that maybe we swapped first round draft picks with the Giants, which would be interesting. While that would be a lot of value to give up for Shockey, I really don't know if would end up being that bad. We could still take a guy like DRC or maybe even Keith Rivers if he's still there. I don't know, whatever happens, I just like that they are being proactive.
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02-28-2008, 11:53 PM	#19
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: saints want shockey I will definitely root for Shockey if he comes to New Orleans. On that note, I am not totally convinced he is an upgrade. Extremely talented yes. But over his career he has dropped way too many easy passes. I can see us all here after a game in which he drops an easy TD, $itching at the Saints front office for trading for this dude.

02-29-2008, 12:12 AM	#20
5800AirlineDrive Rookie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2	Re: saints want shockey From RotoWorld: "Report: Saints call Giants about TE Shockey" "ESPN's John Clayton reports the Saints have contacted the Giants about Jeremy Shockey. He probably isn't available, but it's interesting nonetheless. New Orleans' top two TEs from '07, Eric Johnson and Billy Miller, are both unsigned. We still can't imagine the Giants moving Shockey for more than a package of picks, including the Saints' second-rounder (No. 40). The Jints may even ask for a first. Feb. 29 - 12:03 am et" Fantasy Football - news, projections, rankings, draft guide - Rotoworld.com Personally, I hope it's not true. Let him throw his helmet around someone else's bench. We don't need his drama.
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