saints want shockey

Bobaganoosh · 02-28-2008, 11:25 PM

I would not give up the 40th pick in the draft for Shockey...the Saints are going to need that pick to find another defensive player. Even if we finalize the deal for Vilma, we still need 5 more guys for the defense before we start giving away draft picks for a TE...although I am sure Brees would love to have another TE like he had in San Diego.

Cancer Beater · 02-29-2008, 12:19 AM

How many guys will we have coming off of serious injuries?

MeKenzie,Deuce,Vilma,Shockey

CheramieIII · 02-29-2008, 06:22 AM

looks like EJ and Miller are gone and we'll have Shockey, Campbell and Ghent not a bad upgrade.

hagan714 · 02-29-2008, 06:31 AM

I want Miller back. Draft another. Skip the trade

SapperSaint · 02-29-2008, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh

good point, whether we agree or disagree with the moves the Saints are contemplating, they are doing what we all wanted them to do...which is make a concerted effort to improve this team.

DING DING DING!!!!

One heck of a statement Boba! This is all I have ever wanted from the Saints' FO. Give us the tools to win with.

I think Shockey, will be fine, would like to have him. Yes, I was not a fan of his attitude, but Pak, hit it on the head. The guy wants to win, and hates losing (maybe just a little more than others).

Very happy with the Saints FO!

Tobias-Reiper · 02-29-2008, 07:36 AM

Here's the thing with Shockey:

1.- He's a Hurricane, so out of college he had an attitude.
2.- He landed on the Giants, and got 2 years of Fassell, Collins, and Tiki; his 2nd year the Giants blew big desert wind, the coach got fired, etc
3.- then he gets Eli as his QB and Emperor Palpatine as HC, with Tiki still whining in the lockerroom... now Eli, SB ring and all, he is not the type QB that can lead guys like Shockey. Shockey has too strong a personality which probably intimidates Eli.
4.- You know that no matter what, not being able to play in that playoff run and SB is got to be tearing him up inside... listening to all those comments about how the team was better without him, and how Eli was able to lead the team because he wasn't in the huddle...

Enter the Saints:
1.- He's got something to prove.
2.- His QB would be Drew Brees. No intimidation there.
3.- He'd be in an offense where he will get the ball.
4.- His HC would be a young coach who like offense.

Yep, I wouldn't mind seeing Shockey in NO at all.

LordOfEntropy · 02-29-2008, 07:50 AM

Draft one. Save the trades for qualified defensive starters.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-29-2008, 09:50 AM

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A first or second round pick? Are they nuts??!!

Where can I find complaining icons to add to this post?

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-29-2008, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I want Miller back. Draft another. Skip the trade

Total agreement here.

SFIAH

TheDeuce · 02-29-2008, 11:23 AM

I agree that the 1st round pick is too high, but here's my philosophy on trading a player for a pick:

If you can get a young, proven commodity like Jeremy Shockey, then you should absolutely do it. The guy is a gamebreaker and would bring something to this team that we haven't had in a long, long time. In fact, I bet you could argue that he'd be the best TE to ever suit up in the black and gold. He's young, which means he still has his best years in front of him, and you know what you're getting. Trade him for a second or third round pick makes complete sense to me. Let's look at a few of the second round picks that we've made in the last few years: Roman Harper, Josh Bullocks, Devery Henderson. Now I of course don't believe that just because we have sucked at drafting second round picks in the past, that we are going to do that this year, but my point is that we thought we were going to be getting some good players in the second round, and honestly, they all blow. I'd take Shockey in a heart beat for the second round pick.

02-28-2008, 11:25 PM	#21
Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	Re: saints want shockey I would not give up the 40th pick in the draft for Shockey...the Saints are going to need that pick to find another defensive player. Even if we finalize the deal for Vilma, we still need 5 more guys for the defense before we start giving away draft picks for a TE...although I am sure Brees would love to have another TE like he had in San Diego.

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SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: saints want shockey Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh good point, whether we agree or disagree with the moves the Saints are contemplating, they are doing what we all wanted them to do...which is make a concerted effort to improve this team. DING DING DING!!!! One heck of a statement Boba! This is all I have ever wanted from the Saints' FO. Give us the tools to win with. I think Shockey, will be fine, would like to have him. Yes, I was not a fan of his attitude, but Pak, hit it on the head. The guy wants to win, and hates losing (maybe just a little more than others). Very happy with the Saints FO!

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Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: saints want shockey Here's the thing with Shockey: 1.- He's a Hurricane, so out of college he had an attitude. 2.- He landed on the Giants, and got 2 years of Fassell, Collins, and Tiki; his 2nd year the Giants blew big desert wind, the coach got fired, etc 3.- then he gets Eli as his QB and Emperor Palpatine as HC, with Tiki still whining in the lockerroom... now Eli, SB ring and all, he is not the type QB that can lead guys like Shockey. Shockey has too strong a personality which probably intimidates Eli. 4.- You know that no matter what, not being able to play in that playoff run and SB is got to be tearing him up inside... listening to all those comments about how the team was better without him, and how Eli was able to lead the team because he wasn't in the huddle... Enter the Saints: 1.- He's got something to prove. 2.- His QB would be Drew Brees. No intimidation there. 3.- He'd be in an offense where he will get the ball. 4.- His HC would be a young coach who like offense. Yep, I wouldn't mind seeing Shockey in NO at all.
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02-29-2008, 07:50 AM	#27
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: saints want shockey Draft one. Save the trades for qualified defensive starters.

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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Awful! Saints ask about Shockey? Fantasy Football - news, projections, rankings, draft guide - Rotoworld.com A first or second round pick? Are they nuts??!! Where can I find complaining icons to add to this post? SFIAH

02-29-2008, 10:08 AM	#29
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: saints want shockey Originally Posted by hagan714 I want Miller back. Draft another. Skip the trade Total agreement here. SFIAH

02-29-2008, 11:23 AM	#30
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: saints want shockey I agree that the 1st round pick is too high, but here's my philosophy on trading a player for a pick: If you can get a young, proven commodity like Jeremy Shockey, then you should absolutely do it. The guy is a gamebreaker and would bring something to this team that we haven't had in a long, long time. In fact, I bet you could argue that he'd be the best TE to ever suit up in the black and gold. He's young, which means he still has his best years in front of him, and you know what you're getting. Trade him for a second or third round pick makes complete sense to me. Let's look at a few of the second round picks that we've made in the last few years: Roman Harper, Josh Bullocks, Devery Henderson. Now I of course don't believe that just because we have sucked at drafting second round picks in the past, that we are going to do that this year, but my point is that we thought we were going to be getting some good players in the second round, and honestly, they all blow. I'd take Shockey in a heart beat for the second round pick.
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