LB Vilma Officially A Saint - More Excitement

darby · 02-29-2008, 12:14 PM

I definately think we are one LB away from domination. Lets hope the draft falls in our favor. A dominant LB corps will help our CBs exponentially. Can't go deep if the QB is on his ass every other down.

Beerfish · 02-29-2008, 12:16 PM

Jets fan here. Very good deal for you guys in my mind and not bad for the Jets. Vilma really suffered after the Jets switched to the 3-4 but was a beast his 1st year in the 4-3. The key obviously will be how his knee is long term but I'm sure the Saints checked that out in detail.

If you guys have DT's that can keep guards off of him you've got an excellent player that will make a ton of tackles for you.

Bobaganoosh · 02-29-2008, 12:24 PM

Beerfish,

why is that the jets are unloading all of these youmg, talented defenders (Vilma, Robertson) just for the sake of moving to a 3-4? I wouldnt disagree with it if these guys were older vets on the way down but these were young, promising players with a history of success in the 4-3...just seems odd to me.

Beerfish · 02-29-2008, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh

Beerfish,

why is that the jets are unloading all of these youmg, talented defenders (Vilma, Robertson) just for the sake of moving to a 3-4? I wouldnt disagree with it if these guys were older vets on the way down but these were young, promising players with a history of success in the 4-3...just seems odd to me.

Alot of Jet fans have asked that question as well. The 3-4 has really hurt the performance of the two guys you mentioned. Robertson is another guy that I think will be great in a base 4-3 with a decent tackle beside him. (Though some other Jet fans will disagree.)

I think Mangini and Tannenbaum made the decision to go 3-4 and are committed to it come hell or high water. One big problem with the 3-4 in my mind is that the pool of ideal 3-4 players is so much smaller than the base 4-3 style. It will take another year or so to get pieces that fit better.

Kris Jenkins should be a much better fit at NT than Robertson was.

lsutigerfan · 03-02-2008, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by darby

I definately think we are one LB away from domination. Lets hope the draft falls in our favor. A dominant LB corps will help our CBs exponentially. Can't go deep if the QB is on his ass every other down.

You are absolutely right Keith Rivers would be real nice in live in California I've seen every game this year of this kid he is going to be a star.

02-29-2008, 12:14 PM	#1
darby Rookie Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 21	Re: Vilma trade official I definately think we are one LB away from domination. Lets hope the draft falls in our favor. A dominant LB corps will help our CBs exponentially. Can't go deep if the QB is on his ass every other down.
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02-29-2008, 12:16 PM	#2
Beerfish Rookie Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 10	Re: Vilma trade official Jets fan here. Very good deal for you guys in my mind and not bad for the Jets. Vilma really suffered after the Jets switched to the 3-4 but was a beast his 1st year in the 4-3. The key obviously will be how his knee is long term but I'm sure the Saints checked that out in detail. If you guys have DT's that can keep guards off of him you've got an excellent player that will make a ton of tackles for you.
Beerfish Rookie Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 10

02-29-2008, 12:24 PM	#3
Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Vilma trade official Beerfish, why is that the jets are unloading all of these youmg, talented defenders (Vilma, Robertson) just for the sake of moving to a 3-4? I wouldnt disagree with it if these guys were older vets on the way down but these were young, promising players with a history of success in the 4-3...just seems odd to me.

02-29-2008, 12:42 PM	#4
Beerfish Rookie Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 10	Re: Vilma trade official Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh Beerfish, why is that the jets are unloading all of these youmg, talented defenders (Vilma, Robertson) just for the sake of moving to a 3-4? I wouldnt disagree with it if these guys were older vets on the way down but these were young, promising players with a history of success in the 4-3...just seems odd to me. Alot of Jet fans have asked that question as well. The 3-4 has really hurt the performance of the two guys you mentioned. Robertson is another guy that I think will be great in a base 4-3 with a decent tackle beside him. (Though some other Jet fans will disagree.) I think Mangini and Tannenbaum made the decision to go 3-4 and are committed to it come hell or high water. One big problem with the 3-4 in my mind is that the pool of ideal 3-4 players is so much smaller than the base 4-3 style. It will take another year or so to get pieces that fit better. Kris Jenkins should be a much better fit at NT than Robertson was.
Beerfish Rookie Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 10

03-02-2008, 10:13 PM	#5
lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: Vilma trade official Originally Posted by darby I definately think we are one LB away from domination. Lets hope the draft falls in our favor. A dominant LB corps will help our CBs exponentially. Can't go deep if the QB is on his ass every other down. You are absolutely right Keith Rivers would be real nice in live in California I've seen every game this year of this kid he is going to be a star.