Completely off my rocker: What about Moss?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-29-2008, 06:58 PM

I've been pounding the podium about how the Saints should only look at defensive free agents.

But I'm watching John Clayton on ESPN point out that Randy Moss isn't close to a deal with the Patriots.

Now that guy would actually be worth paying $10 million a year to bring to the Saints.

Thoughts?

SFIAH

BoudinSandwich · 02-29-2008, 07:03 PM

I think the money could be used in a much wiser fashion. Then again, I don't think Randy Moss on your team hurts - regardless of how much you pay for him.

I don't know if I could ever accept him as a Saint, though. It wouldn't seem like the same team. Then again.....

I'm going 'off my rocker' on Marlon McCree, though. Bullocks? Harper? C'mon... McCree could help our CB's, plus he has the chance to take it to the house every pick he gets.

LBCutta · 02-29-2008, 07:06 PM

the Saints don't make big moves like that. They can never seem to get the BIG names. Thats why I'm not surprised by us not getting Samuel. So we definitely wouldn't get Moss... We sit on the sidelines during the FA period for some reason. Then go after the left overs (Jason David)

WhoDat205 · 02-29-2008, 07:08 PM

I think we need Colston and a few role players: a burner to stretch the field at the #2 spot, a reliable slot guy and Copper.

LBCutta · 02-29-2008, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

I think we need Colston and a few role players: a burner to stretch the field at the #2 spot, a reliable slot guy and Copper.

true. but I really think Copper was resigned b/c of his special teams ability. We have Lance Moore who looked good. Colston of course. And I really believe Reggie will be used as more of a receiver this year. We need to bring in maybe 1 reliable receiver for the 2 spot.

papz · 02-29-2008, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I've been pounding the podium about how the Saints should only look at defensive free agents.

But I'm watching John Clayton on ESPN point out that Randy Moss isn't close to a deal with the Patriots.

Now that guy would actually be worth paying $10 million a year to bring to the Saints.

Thoughts?

SFIAH

You've dismissed and argued all off season with me over not wanting to bring a receiver here... but now you like the idea of having Moss here. I'm not trying to be mean here but that's what you call a hypocrite. It's absolutely insane to go sign or trade for a WR, but I guess Moss is the exception.

Sorry but you had that coming as I'm sure you knew it would.

Anyways... I was a big proponent of trading for Moss while he was a Raider. I would love to have him opposite Colston. Our offense would be sick.

MatthewT · 02-29-2008, 08:56 PM

Interesting. Sign Moss, forget about putting that money into the defense, and hope to score 35 points a game. As for me, I don't know if I would like this at first, but I would probably become a big time Moss fan if it did happen. At least the entertainment value would be there, and with some improvements on defense it could lead to something big.

LongTimeFan · 02-29-2008, 09:42 PM

Moss would help a lot on the field for the Saints but it would hurt with the cap and they need the extra money to spend on defense..

Euphoria · 02-29-2008, 09:58 PM

Moss has to be in the right place and the right system. I think that has been proven and if Moss isn't stupid and learned from the Raiders debacle then he'd be smart to hold out for the money but eventually stay put in NE.

Moss is going to do what for us??? I don't buy he'll match his TD output from NE in NO. Might average a few more points offensively for us but unless we can slow our opponets down - we'll end up in a shoot out and some how shoot ourselves in the foot. EXAMPLE - 2007 New England Patriots. Sorry I'd rather be the Giants and actually win the SB instead of just getting there.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 03-01-2008, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by papz

You've dismissed and argued all off season with me over not wanting to bring a receiver here... but now you like the idea of having Moss here. I'm not trying to be mean here but that's what you call a hypocrite. It's absolutely insane to go sign or trade for a WR, but I guess Moss is the exception.

Moss would be the exception because he is a HOF receiver that just broke the single season TD reception record.

I just want to make clear I'm not talking about a WR. I'm talking about the best WR in a generation who is still in his prime.

Sorry but you had that coming as I'm sure you knew it would.

I'm so hurt. Ouch!

Anyways... I was a big proponent of trading for Moss while he was a Raider. I would love to have him opposite Colston. Our offense would be sick.

I would have never thought about it because I figured that the Pats would work out a deal. But according to the reports the game plan seems to be to let the market determine his price, then decide if they want to meet it.

Anyway if I were negotiating with Moss, I'd remind him that Payton was the OC when they suffered that 41-0 beatdown in the 2000 NFC championship game. I'd follow up with the fact that the Saints were #1 in passing in 2006 and #2 last year. Finally I'd point out that with both Colston and Reggie on the field it would be difficult for teams to simple double cover Moss all the time. Then I'd show him the money.

SFIAH

02-29-2008, 07:06 PM	#3
LBCutta 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Killeen, TX....Born in Marrero, LA Posts: 592	Re: Completely off my rocker: What about Moss? the Saints don't make big moves like that. They can never seem to get the BIG names. Thats why I'm not surprised by us not getting Samuel. So we definitely wouldn't get Moss... We sit on the sidelines during the FA period for some reason. Then go after the left overs (Jason David)

02-29-2008, 07:08 PM	#4
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Completely off my rocker: What about Moss? I think we need Colston and a few role players: a burner to stretch the field at the #2 spot, a reliable slot guy and Copper.

02-29-2008, 07:14 PM	#5
LBCutta 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Killeen, TX....Born in Marrero, LA Posts: 592	Re: Completely off my rocker: What about Moss? Originally Posted by WhoDat205 I think we need Colston and a few role players: a burner to stretch the field at the #2 spot, a reliable slot guy and Copper. true. but I really think Copper was resigned b/c of his special teams ability. We have Lance Moore who looked good. Colston of course. And I really believe Reggie will be used as more of a receiver this year. We need to bring in maybe 1 reliable receiver for the 2 spot.

02-29-2008, 08:13 PM	#6
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Completely off my rocker: What about Moss? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I've been pounding the podium about how the Saints should only look at defensive free agents. But I'm watching John Clayton on ESPN point out that Randy Moss isn't close to a deal with the Patriots. Now that guy would actually be worth paying $10 million a year to bring to the Saints. Thoughts? SFIAH You've dismissed and argued all off season with me over not wanting to bring a receiver here... but now you like the idea of having Moss here. I'm not trying to be mean here but that's what you call a hypocrite. It's absolutely insane to go sign or trade for a WR, but I guess Moss is the exception. Sorry but you had that coming as I'm sure you knew it would. Anyways... I was a big proponent of trading for Moss while he was a Raider. I would love to have him opposite Colston. Our offense would be sick.
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02-29-2008, 08:56 PM	#7
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Completely off my rocker: What about Moss? Interesting. Sign Moss, forget about putting that money into the defense, and hope to score 35 points a game. As for me, I don't know if I would like this at first, but I would probably become a big time Moss fan if it did happen. At least the entertainment value would be there, and with some improvements on defense it could lead to something big.

02-29-2008, 06:58 PM	#1
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Completely off my rocker: What about Moss? I've been pounding the podium about how the Saints should only look at defensive free agents. But I'm watching John Clayton on ESPN point out that Randy Moss isn't close to a deal with the Patriots. Now that guy would actually be worth paying $10 million a year to bring to the Saints. Thoughts? SFIAH

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02-29-2008, 07:03 PM	#2
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03-01-2008, 09:20 AM	#10
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Completely off my rocker: What about Moss? Originally Posted by papz You've dismissed and argued all off season with me over not wanting to bring a receiver here... but now you like the idea of having Moss here. I'm not trying to be mean here but that's what you call a hypocrite. It's absolutely insane to go sign or trade for a WR, but I guess Moss is the exception. Moss would be the exception because he is a HOF receiver that just broke the single season TD reception record. I just want to make clear I'm not talking about a WR. I'm talking about the best WR in a generation who is still in his prime. Sorry but you had that coming as I'm sure you knew it would. I'm so hurt. Ouch! Anyways... I was a big proponent of trading for Moss while he was a Raider. I would love to have him opposite Colston. Our offense would be sick. I would have never thought about it because I figured that the Pats would work out a deal. But according to the reports the game plan seems to be to let the market determine his price, then decide if they want to meet it. Anyway if I were negotiating with Moss, I'd remind him that Payton was the OC when they suffered that 41-0 beatdown in the 2000 NFC championship game. I'd follow up with the fact that the Saints were #1 in passing in 2006 and #2 last year. Finally I'd point out that with both Colston and Reggie on the field it would be difficult for teams to simple double cover Moss all the time. Then I'd show him the money. SFIAH
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