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tiggerpolice 03-01-2008 10:22 PM

Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
 
I think, if we can't make the trade for lito sheppard....we should draft this guy with the 10 pick if dorsey or ellis aren't there....read this kids bio and analysis...and the videos on the side.......



NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie

lumm0x 03-01-2008 10:33 PM

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Never saw much of him. Sounds decent. Is he good enough to leapfrog Jenkins and Talib?

lsutigerfan 03-01-2008 11:18 PM

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oh yeah this guy is going to be a star.

Bobaganoosh 03-01-2008 11:23 PM

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I dont think any of the CB's are worth taking at 10...and its not like they are going to come in and start for us. Our CB situation is not a good one. You have to wonder what the plans are to improve the back end of the defense.

papz 03-01-2008 11:30 PM

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Wow... tiggerpolice... welcome back it's been a while.

tiggerpolice 03-02-2008 12:11 AM

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this was someone's mock draft........

10. New Orleans Saints: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, TSU
A bit surprised to see Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie go this high? I wouldn't be shocked to see him go to the Patriots at No. 7. Following up on his stellar Senior Bowl, DRC ran an unofficial 4.28 40, notched a 38.5-inch vertical and leaped a broad jump of 10 feet, 11 inches. He looked like a man amongst boys in the drills, earning Deion Sanders' praise. I would be extremely surprised if he wasn't drafted with the first 15 picks.

New Orleans' secondary is garbage. The corners can't cover anyone, while free safety Josh Bullocks has been completely awful at times. I previously had Kenny Phillips here, but the Miami free safety has seen his stock slip. DRC, meanwhile, has become a much higher-rated prospect. He can only help a defense ranked 30th versus the pass.

WalterFootball.com: 2008 NFL Mock Draft

TheDeuce 03-02-2008 12:44 AM

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I love WalterFootball.com's mock drafts, they are freakin hilarious. I've seen so many critical comments of our secondary and I love it. Hopefully the Saints are reading that and realize that they need some help.

I agree with you tiggerpolice, I'd love to see us go after Sheppard.

hagan714 03-02-2008 04:49 AM

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Of the the three small school CB at the top of the draft board he is definitly a better option than the other two. Now if this was last years draft class Not one of them would make a splash in the draft. Maybe at best end of round one and the rest would have gone in 2 or three, The class is good BUT This position shows the draft as whole for what it is. Weak in round one. It gets really good as you get into round 2. OT is the postion of strength in the draft not CB.
PS I still like Carson and no one is talking about him this year. He was the #3 guy last year and now nothing. Media hype be careful.

beauchristopher 03-02-2008 04:50 AM

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it's just everybody is really a reach at pick 10.. i love this kid but top 10 pick.. it's all nuts this year.

beauchristopher 03-02-2008 04:55 AM

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this guy has something jason david doesn't..
size: he is 6'2 as opposed to mr. 5'8
speed: he is an absolute blazer..

i really love this dudes playmaking abilities. he is a freak of nature.

FireVenturi 03-02-2008 09:02 AM

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I will say it again, DRC is the only corner worthy of a top 10 pick this year.

CheramieIII 03-02-2008 09:15 AM

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I think the organization is putting to much responsibility on the draft. We will need a center, right guard, tight end, 2 CB's, QB, FS, DT and possibly a DE.

We won't be able to fill all of the holes we need to in the draft. We already have 49 of 58 roster spots accounted for with all of our signings to date. The window opportunity is closing boys and girls and we weren't even ready for it.

beauchristopher 03-03-2008 07:18 AM

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He is the best corner in the draft. He is the only corner I like..

6'2 182 21 Years Old

2007-08 Senior Bowl Defensive MVP

2008 Combine Cornerbacks:
Vertical Jump: 38.5 (1st)
Broad Jump: 10'11" (1st)
3-Cone Drill: 6.74 time (1st)
50 Yard Shuttle: 11.06 time (1st)

40 Yard Dash: 4.28 (fastest) 4.33 (average)

He went to 4 different schools in high school and didn't even play football till his senior year, which is why he had to go to Tenn State. Nonetheless the guy is a freak of nature. He reminds me so much of his cousin.. who happen to lead the NFL in INT's.. except I believe he is even more talented and he has no injury problems whatsoever coming into the draft.


What could attract NFL clubs to Rodgers-Cromartie beyond his cornerback abilities is his special teams skills.
Rodgers-Cromartie averaged 24.4 yards on kickoff returns. He also blocked 8 kicks on special teams!

In 39 starts for the Tigers, opposing quarterbacks completed just 55 of 161 passes (34.16%) thrown in Rodgers-Cromartie's immediate area. He intercepted 11 of those throws, deflected 25 and held the opposition to a miniscule 3.54 yards per pass attempt, the best of any collegiate defensive back over the last three seasons.

My video on him:
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k6.../cromartie.jpg

beauchristopher 03-03-2008 07:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FireVenturi (Post 155945)
I will say it again, DRC is the only corner worthy of a top 10 pick this year.

I couldn't agree with you more. He has the size, speed, and play making skillz far above the others.. Flowers may be the most physical but that also can be a dangerous thing.. plus he benefits from playing in a great defensive scheme.
DRC is highly lock down and his upside is so tremendous I honestly believe he is worthy of the top 10 pick. (The Patriots are seriously looking at him at pick 7).

He reminds me so much of his cousin (who lead all the NFL in ints this past season) Except he has more tools/talent in my opinion. When they run int's back they look IDENTICAL. Also, a lot of people were shocked when the chargers selected Cromartie in the first round and now look at how he turned out..

This guy is the number one sleeper.. I'm not big on drafting corners.. but this guy is a freak of nature.. to think he didn't even start playing football until his senior year of HS..

TheDeuce 03-03-2008 01:50 PM

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If this was any other year, I think that I would be in complete agreement about this guy. He sounds like he has all of the athletic ability in the world. However, here's my concern about taking this guy at #10:

If he just started playing football as a senior in high school, and went to Tennessee State, the guy is probably pretty raw. Any other year that'd be fine, because he could come in and maybe rotate in and out of the starting rotation and get some experience and get coached up. But this year is different. Our cornerbacks are so bad (especially with MM out for the first part of the season), that we have to get somebody who can come in and start right away. Maybe he can, but I saw last year how much Usama struggled making the jump from whatever DI-AA school he came from to the NFL. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my worry about such a thing.

WhoDat205 03-03-2008 02:49 PM

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He'll be raw, but man-oh-man that kid is the real deal. I don't care if we gotta coach him up for a season.

Consider me a convert.

saintsfan1976 03-03-2008 03:03 PM

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Hey BeauC, welcome to the board and great posts and video. :cool:

I'm with you on 'Cro-Mart' (and have been since b4 the Senior Bowl). Hagan made a good point on the depth of this year's CB crop and I have to agree. With that being said, I hope to see us continue to sign impact FA's and address our front seven in the first round. Then, if he's there in the second I say go after him. :phat:

beauchristopher 03-03-2008 04:05 PM

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Thanks.!
I have been wanting Rivers since January.. but after seeing the Cromartie kid blowout I just think he's going to be better than his cousin.. He has freakish Randy Moss like abilities on defense. Don't be suprised if the Pats take him first round ahead of us.. We shall see how everything unfolds.. I wish there was a way we could get him and Rivers..

saintsfan1976 03-03-2008 05:02 PM

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There's no doubt the kid's got potential. But look where that got us with our first round pick last year.... :(

foreverfan 03-03-2008 05:11 PM

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Doesn't This Scare Anyone?
6'2" and only 180lbs??? The guys a stick and an injury waiting to happen.

No way he holds up to the NFL! He will have trouble tackling and staying healthy. He will need 2 years to bulk up. Put me down with another CB that's more ready to start.

What good is speed if you can't stay on the field?

foreverfan 03-03-2008 05:37 PM

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What others are saying...

Rogers-Cromartie has a very thin build. He will need to bulk up in the NFL because he simply is too weak and too skinny at this point. Average sized receivers will be able to overpower him. He also relies on his athleticism too much, and may need time to adjust to the step up in competition.

Dominique Rogers-Cromartie - FootballsFuture.com NFL Draft Profile

bushballer 03-03-2008 09:04 PM

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Why is everyone all over this guy? Hes a workout warrior. You gotta ask yourself why was this guy at Tenn. St or wherever he went? Maybe hes a late bloomer I dont know. But I dont put alot of stock in the combine. Its a lil ridiculous. All the guys at the top of board are the same kind of athletes. Coaches put more time into how they look on film, and how can you get an accurate judge on his FOOTBALL playing ability with the level of competition hes playing at. Granted Marques Colstone went to a similar school, but we didn't draft him 10th overall. We need someone who is going to step in right away and give us quality playing time as a rookie. We dont need another redshirt rookie like last year.

pakowitz 03-03-2008 09:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bushballer (Post 156430)
Why is everyone all over this guy? Hes a workout warrior. You gotta ask yourself why was this guy at Tenn. St or wherever he went? Maybe hes a late bloomer I dont know. But I dont put alot of stock in the combine. Its a lil ridiculous. All the guys at the top of board are the same kind of athletes. Coaches put more time into how they look on film, and how can you get an accurate judge on his FOOTBALL playing ability with the level of competition hes playing at. Granted Marques Colstone went to a similar school, but we didn't draft him 10th overall. We need someone who is going to step in right away and give us quality playing time as a rookie. We dont need another redshirt rookie like last year.


he only played football in his sr year of high school.. was a complete unknown for that reason..

dont underestimate this guy, he is legit

beauchristopher 03-03-2008 10:28 PM

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"Why is everyone all over this guy? Hes a workout warrior. You gotta ask yourself why was this guy at Tenn. St or wherever he went? Maybe hes a late bloomer I dont know. But I dont put alot of stock in the combine. Its a lil ridiculous. All the guys at the top of board are the same kind of athletes. Coaches put more time into how they look on film, and how can you get an accurate judge on his FOOTBALL playing ability with the level of competition hes playing at. Granted Marques Colstone went to a similar school, but we didn't draft him 10th overall. We need someone who is going to step in right away and give us quality playing time as a rookie. We dont need another redshirt rookie like last year."

The guy came in first in just about every single category at the combine for corners.. He has tremendous speed along with size.. He may of went to a small school but last I checked so did COLSTON.. His cousin was a bit of an unknown who the Chargers took 15th overall and everyone was like WTF?? Yet his cousin only lead the entire NFL in INTS..

The whole small school thing is overrrated.. The man showed his skillz against some of the best competition you can get at the SENIOR BOWL as he was DEFENSIVE MVP..

He has such tremendous upside he is worth it. He is mind blowing away.. and now that we signed Gay.. we don't have to throw him into the fire.. although he could see playing time fast.. He's gonna be the kind of guy you regret not getting if you miss out on him..

beauchristopher 03-03-2008 10:30 PM

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These stats are ABSOLUTELY INSANE..

2008 Combine Cornerbacks:
Vertical Jump: 38.5 (1st)
Broad Jump: 10'11" (1st)
3-Cone Drill: 6.74 time (1st)
50 Yard Shuttle: 11.06 time (1st)

40 Yard Dash: 4.28 (fastest) 4.33 (average)

Add the fact that he is 6'2 with all that ability.. he's got such upside.. I've never been big on drafting corners but this guy is unreal..

beauchristopher 03-03-2008 10:38 PM

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If you think taking him at pick 10 is high.. don't be suprised if he goes before that..

also sorry i was wrong the chargers took his cousin at pick 19, not 15

pakowitz 03-03-2008 11:00 PM

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yea but cromartie should have gone higher then 19 but he was injured most of the year with an torn ACL

SapperSaint 03-04-2008 07:35 AM

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Beau,

Glad to see another convert to the DRC "man-crush" gang. Saintfan1976 brought him to the table during the senior bowl week. Yes, he is a player I want on this team. I'm not worried about his size, he'll bulk up.

foreverfan 03-04-2008 08:14 AM

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You guys are ignoring the obvious...

Answer me this: How can anybody that is 6'2" 180lbs (beam pole) hold up to the hits he'll receive on a daily basis. The NFL isn't the SWAC.

He's a work out warrior, and I predict he doesn't make it through 10 games before he has a season ending injury. In any case, I bet he's always be dinged and unable to start too many games to be effective.

papz 03-04-2008 08:28 AM

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After he gets into the NFL's strength and conditioning program, he should easily gain 5 to 10 pounds before the season starts. Champ Bailey weighs 192 and Dre Bly weighs 185. Bailey came into the league at 184. DRC is not going to stay rail thin... he will gain weight and pack on muscle.

saintsfan1976 03-04-2008 08:30 AM

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I wouldn't say that I'm "worried" about this kid so much as I'm worried about grabbing a proven play maker for the front seven with our #10 (trading down is a whole other scenario).

Now that we've signed Gay, and MM's future is uncertain, we do need another CB to battle (like that will be hard) Jason David for the starting spot. My pick is Usama. (Oh, did we forget about him already??) This guy is working his tail off to get in the rotation and if there's any questions about the Saints always playing the right personnel last year... please see "Saints RB and Secondary Coaches Fired" and look under Pierre Thomas and Kevin Kaesviharn. Usama is gold. (not Obama)


Cro-Mart has the raw skills but teams know that his kind of player is a very high risk vs reward....because in the NFL "potential" is just that. He needs two years (min) to develop IMHO.

Would he look GREAT in the B&G and be an excellent replacement for MM in the future....YES.

SapperSaint 03-04-2008 09:43 AM

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We are not looking for a CB to hit a guy like a LB. Are we? We need a CB that can keep up with burners, that can out jump the WR, and has good hands.

DRC will bulk up when he gets picked up. Will he start? Maybe not. But I think he has the ability and skills to start.

Whoever gets him will have a future multi-pro-bowler. You can bank on that.

beauchristopher 03-04-2008 04:11 PM

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I'm a huge Usama Young fan. He is a great nickel type of cover corner.. he plays very well. and I'M NOT ONE TO want to draft any corners in the draft.. they typically take too long to develop.. most of them don't amount to anything in the NFL.. HOWEVER. this DRC guy is such a freak of nature.. i just think he is going to be every bit as good as his cousin if not better..

he has the best speed of any corner in the draft.. he has tremendous size.. he has the best leaping/vertical.. he very good man to man.. he'd be great for when we play teams like the Lions who have Calvin Johnson, Roy Williams, and Shaun McDonald..

and since they aren't letting Bush return kicks/punts any more.. he is special in the return game as well.. not to mention he blocked 8 kicks in college..

Cancer Beater 03-04-2008 04:54 PM

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I'm fully prepared to be shocked on Draft Day with our selection at #10.

beauchristopher 03-04-2008 04:57 PM

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I'd much rather Mayo (in the 2nd round) over Rivers at the point unless Rivers has a blown up pro day..

andersen 03-04-2008 05:12 PM

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It seems like unless you are a freak, ala Colston or Bush, you will have to wait a year before you play for this coach anyway.

beauchristopher 03-04-2008 05:33 PM

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true dat

foreverfan 03-05-2008 11:32 AM

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Had to share this picture with you guys. A picture of his brother....

http://sportswrap.berecruited.com/wp...ris%20park.jpg

pakowitz 03-05-2008 03:17 PM

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its his cousin.. not his brother

NarwhalHunter 03-05-2008 03:24 PM

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DRC will probably take a year, maybe two, to develop. I have no problem waiting that amount of time if we can finally have a shutdown corner who gets us in the neighborhood of 10 picks a season.

Simply put, the majority of draft picks take time before the team sees what it really has in the guy. Of course there's always that strange story of a kid named Colston, but I doubt anyone here is interested in that.


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