something to consider

gandhi1007 · 03-18-2008, 04:14 PM

Wasn't meant to offend Papz.....Strief has performed better in the game's he's started at LT than Brown. I think Brown is a great RT, but he's either getting beat or making bone head penalties at LT. Like others have said....this coaching staff is very reluctant to change after the season starts. Case in point #1: Why was Bullocks starting until damn near mid-season? Case #2: Why did Pierre Thomas not get his shot until the end of the season? We can debate this all day, but I'll still say Brown is an over-rated LT & if we can get a shut down CB for him......pull the trigger on the deal!!!!!!!! There's a guy on the bench who can fill Brown's shoes (better in my opinion). Who's gonna' stop the pass that's been killing us? Gay? David? Thomas? I'd rather get someone who can handle their own in man to man. The guys we have at CB get beat like a pinata on Cinqo De Mayo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

papz · 03-18-2008, 04:30 PM

None was taken gandhi1007. We have a difference in opinion... nothing wrong with that.

ssmitty · 03-18-2008, 04:44 PM

i'd rather trade bush.................

ssmitty · 03-18-2008, 04:50 PM

actually, if they trade their 4 spot, i may consider..........

triman · 03-18-2008, 05:38 PM

ARE you *&^%$^)*&*^$#$ NUTS Drew Brees is the heart and soul of this team.
You do not trade his main protector,especially a Pro Bowl player like J.Brown.Ashmoungha is good but he is not worth J.Brown no way . Teams build there offense around LTs

hagan714 · 03-18-2008, 07:47 PM

OK I have been thinking about it. Is there something you are trying to say? Browns knees not all that good? Are the backups ready to step up?
Now a straight up trade for Brown leaves me a little uneasy without answers to these questions.
He is not a LT. But he is without a doubt a great RT.
How about Stinch instead and a lower pick?
Then if Brown is to go because of any of the questions above are answered with a yes, then get picks for him.We should come out ahead of the game that way.

gandhi1007 · 03-18-2008, 08:41 PM

I'm sorry....I just can't help but remember DeMarcus Ware using Brown every single play. Or....then there's Julius Peppers man-handling him. I understand these are upper echelon DE's I've named, but your "ALL-PRO" LT (as some of you have called Brown) should be able to at least hold his own against them on a few plays. Right? He didn't. He got used like a $2 hooker for an entire ball game... damn near every time we played them. He's led the offensive line in penalties for a few years as well (most in crucial situations). Tell me again what makes Brown so good at LT?

kingwoodfan · 03-18-2008, 09:39 PM

I agree that Goodwin, when he was filling in for Faine, out perforned him. That's why he's now a buc. We need a CB , no doubt, but taking any chance on protecting Drew is not worth it.

WVSaint · 03-18-2008, 10:13 PM

Im gonna have to go with papz and triman on this one. This team lives and dies with drew. You take away from his protection and hes gonna be rushed and thatll just cause more INTs and those INTs were the differences in many games we shouldve won last year.

plus i dont see the point of messing with our Oline unless its necessary, theyve been pretty damn solid the last two years.

foreverfan · 03-18-2008, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I'll keep a ProBowl LT over and ProBowl CB any day of the week.

The Voice of Reason Speaks Again. Post of the Day!!!!

03-18-2008, 04:14 PM	#11
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Re: something to consider Wasn't meant to offend Papz.....Strief has performed better in the game's he's started at LT than Brown. I think Brown is a great RT, but he's either getting beat or making bone head penalties at LT. Like others have said....this coaching staff is very reluctant to change after the season starts. Case in point #1: Why was Bullocks starting until damn near mid-season? Case #2: Why did Pierre Thomas not get his shot until the end of the season? We can debate this all day, but I'll still say Brown is an over-rated LT & if we can get a shut down CB for him......pull the trigger on the deal!!!!!!!! There's a guy on the bench who can fill Brown's shoes (better in my opinion). Who's gonna' stop the pass that's been killing us? Gay? David? Thomas? I'd rather get someone who can handle their own in man to man. The guys we have at CB get beat like a pinata on Cinqo De Mayo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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03-18-2008, 04:30 PM	#12
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: something to consider None was taken gandhi1007. We have a difference in opinion... nothing wrong with that.

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ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Re: something to consider i'd rather trade bush.................
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triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Re: something to consider ARE you &^%$^)&*^$#$ NUTS Drew Brees is the heart and soul of this team. You do not trade his main protector,especially a Pro Bowl player like J.Brown.Ashmoungha is good but he is not worth J.Brown no way . Teams build there offense around LTs
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03-18-2008, 07:47 PM	#16
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: something to consider OK I have been thinking about it. Is there something you are trying to say? Browns knees not all that good? Are the backups ready to step up? Now a straight up trade for Brown leaves me a little uneasy without answers to these questions. He is not a LT. But he is without a doubt a great RT. How about Stinch instead and a lower pick? Then if Brown is to go because of any of the questions above are answered with a yes, then get picks for him.We should come out ahead of the game that way.
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03-18-2008, 08:41 PM	#17
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Re: something to consider I'm sorry....I just can't help but remember DeMarcus Ware using Brown every single play. Or....then there's Julius Peppers man-handling him. I understand these are upper echelon DE's I've named, but your "ALL-PRO" LT (as some of you have called Brown) should be able to at least hold his own against them on a few plays. Right? He didn't. He got used like a $2 hooker for an entire ball game... damn near every time we played them. He's led the offensive line in penalties for a few years as well (most in crucial situations). Tell me again what makes Brown so good at LT?
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03-18-2008, 09:39 PM	#18
kingwoodfan Rookie Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12	Re: something to consider I agree that Goodwin, when he was filling in for Faine, out perforned him. That's why he's now a buc. We need a CB , no doubt, but taking any chance on protecting Drew is not worth it.
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03-18-2008, 10:13 PM	#19
WVSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 807	Re: something to consider Im gonna have to go with papz and triman on this one. This team lives and dies with drew. You take away from his protection and hes gonna be rushed and thatll just cause more INTs and those INTs were the differences in many games we shouldve won last year. plus i dont see the point of messing with our Oline unless its necessary, theyve been pretty damn solid the last two years.

03-18-2008, 11:16 PM	#20
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: something to consider Originally Posted by papz I'll keep a ProBowl LT over and ProBowl CB any day of the week. The Voice of Reason Speaks Again. Post of the Day!!!!