How Would You Fix the D?

beauchristopher · 03-22-2008, 02:22 PM

it's already been fixed.

TheDeuce · 03-22-2008, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by beauchristopher

it's already been fixed.

Hahahahaha

Ok here's my plan:

1. Attack, and do it with the right people. We need to use the faster people on blitzes. Last year I saw a bunch of Simoneau blitzes where he ran into the lineman and just played patty cake, it was pathetic. Use Vilma or Morgan off the edge, something that will actually work. Use Harper from the free safety spot, he had a bunch of success two years ago on FS blitzes.

2. Start the best people. Here's my lineup as of right now:

DE - Charles Grant
DT - Hollis Thomas
DT - Brian Young
DE - Will Smith
WLB - Dan Morgan, if healthy, or Shanle
MLB - Jon Vilma
SLB - Scott Fujita
CB - MM, if healthy, or Randall Gay
CB - Usama Young or Jason Craft
FS - Roman Harper
SS - Kevin Kaesviharn

Bullocks and Simoneau should never see the field.

3. Change the scheme to fit the personnel. I understand that Gibbs likes the man-to-man coverage on the outside, but if we don't have the players who can play that kind of defense, why not change it up? I'd love to see us go to a Cover 2, but if not, just play more zone coverage. It doesn't make sense to stubbornly stick to a defense when we don't have the personnel to play it right.

thesaintsfan · 03-22-2008, 08:13 PM

We are on the same page on this one TheDeuce. That's exactly what I've been saying. Gibbs is bound and determined to make a sqaure peg fit into a round hole. It is so obvious that our secondary is not cut out for a predominantly man to man defense. There is no way that Gibbs doesn't realize that. I think that it is imperative that we run more zone this season if we are going to be the contenders we were supposed to be last year. I don't see any other solution because let's face it, Bullocks is in the bottom 10 starting safeties in the league, Harper is a marginal starter, MM is past his prime and probably won't be 100% healthy any time soon, David is just gruesome in man, Usama showed promise but is too raw to be relied on, and Gay has been a zone corner his whole career.

A few people are against running the cover 2 because they feel like the transistion takes too long. If I remember correctly someone said that the transistion takes two or three years. It might take two or three years to perfect but I've seen teams have alot of success in year one. Of course the success of any scheme change depends on the talent the team starts out with when they decide to make the switch. In regards to the Saints I think we have the players needed for a relatively smooth transistion. When our DEs are healthy and in shape they can provide some of the pressure that is needed for the cover 2 to work properly. On paper our LBs seem like they would be very solid. Two of the top three CBs are better in zone. IMHO Roman Harper could be a very productive player in cover 2 but I'm not sure if there is any hope for Bullocks. The DTs wouldn't be the best fit.

03-22-2008, 02:22 PM	#1
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TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: How Would You Fix the D? Originally Posted by beauchristopher it's already been fixed. Hahahahaha Ok here's my plan: 1. Attack, and do it with the right people. We need to use the faster people on blitzes. Last year I saw a bunch of Simoneau blitzes where he ran into the lineman and just played patty cake, it was pathetic. Use Vilma or Morgan off the edge, something that will actually work. Use Harper from the free safety spot, he had a bunch of success two years ago on FS blitzes. 2. Start the best people. Here's my lineup as of right now: DE - Charles Grant DT - Hollis Thomas DT - Brian Young DE - Will Smith WLB - Dan Morgan, if healthy, or Shanle MLB - Jon Vilma SLB - Scott Fujita CB - MM, if healthy, or Randall Gay CB - Usama Young or Jason Craft FS - Roman Harper SS - Kevin Kaesviharn Bullocks and Simoneau should never see the field. 3. Change the scheme to fit the personnel. I understand that Gibbs likes the man-to-man coverage on the outside, but if we don't have the players who can play that kind of defense, why not change it up? I'd love to see us go to a Cover 2, but if not, just play more zone coverage. It doesn't make sense to stubbornly stick to a defense when we don't have the personnel to play it right.
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03-22-2008, 08:13 PM	#3
thesaintsfan The Real Deal Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 174	Re: How Would You Fix the D? We are on the same page on this one TheDeuce. That's exactly what I've been saying. Gibbs is bound and determined to make a sqaure peg fit into a round hole. It is so obvious that our secondary is not cut out for a predominantly man to man defense. There is no way that Gibbs doesn't realize that. I think that it is imperative that we run more zone this season if we are going to be the contenders we were supposed to be last year. I don't see any other solution because let's face it, Bullocks is in the bottom 10 starting safeties in the league, Harper is a marginal starter, MM is past his prime and probably won't be 100% healthy any time soon, David is just gruesome in man, Usama showed promise but is too raw to be relied on, and Gay has been a zone corner his whole career. A few people are against running the cover 2 because they feel like the transistion takes too long. If I remember correctly someone said that the transistion takes two or three years. It might take two or three years to perfect but I've seen teams have alot of success in year one. Of course the success of any scheme change depends on the talent the team starts out with when they decide to make the switch. In regards to the Saints I think we have the players needed for a relatively smooth transistion. When our DEs are healthy and in shape they can provide some of the pressure that is needed for the cover 2 to work properly. On paper our LBs seem like they would be very solid. Two of the top three CBs are better in zone. IMHO Roman Harper could be a very productive player in cover 2 but I'm not sure if there is any hope for Bullocks. The DTs wouldn't be the best fit.