Cromartie?

HUSKER · 03-22-2008, 03:06 AM

Is Cromartie the most overated player in the draft or is it just me? Any player that jumps that far in such a small amount of time is just there because of his post-season numbers, not unlike a player named Mike Mamula. He came out of nowhere and got drafted high and never did anything. Lets take a player that can win at a high level and stop getting small school players.

hagan714 · 03-22-2008, 06:53 AM

LOL talk about it. Earlier a 3rd or 4th round sleeper to top 20 pick. Scares me. what was he doing all year long?

leilung · 03-22-2008, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by HUSKER

Any player that jumps that far in such a small amount of time is just there because of his post-season numbers, not unlike a player named Mike Mamula. He came out of nowhere and got drafted high and never did anything. Lets take a player that can win at a high level and stop getting small school players.

I lived through the Mamula experiment in Philly and I can safely say that they drafted him almost purley on his athleticism displayed at the NFL Combines thinking that would translate into a freakish DE like LT. The only impact he ended up having is a new stat for the NFL called "Hurries", referring to putting pressure on the QB without actually recording a sack. Eagle fans still affectionately refer to them as "Mamulas".

But your point is well taken Husker. This franchise has developed a habit of searching outside of the box looking for that lightning in a bottle player (a la Colston) and it doesn't really seem to pay off from a impact standpoint, although payroll wise, its prudent. Sometimes when you want Filet Mignon, you have to pay the top dollar to get it. Try to get it for hamburger prices and you're likely to end up severely disappointed.

thesaintsfan · 03-22-2008, 09:00 AM

I totally agree and I was saying the same thing about DRC on another thread. Some guys on that thread were talking about how good DRC will be and how we need to get him at 10. The point that I brought up was that before the senior bowl very few average fans had even heard of him and then all of the sudden you got guys talking like they've known about him the whole time. Now you have people who have never even seen him play proclaiming him as the second coming of Deion.

It's so funny how people get caught up in the hype surrounding certain players every year about this time. I was told to go to youtube and watch DRC's highlight video. The guy said that after I watched the video I would "understand why we need DRC". So I watched it and yeah he looks like a freakin animal but I also noticed that he was the only real athlete on the field in his games. He was a man among boys. Don't get me wrong, the guy has talent and lots of it but it takes alot more than raw talent to be a NFL starter. He has the tools to be a great CB with proper coaching but that will take some time. I against taking any of this year's CBs at #10. IMHO none of them are worthy of such a high pick. I'd rather us get a safer player like Ellis or Rivers who would be more likely to start this year.

SapperSaint · 03-22-2008, 08:54 AM

It could be considered a very risky move to pick him up in the first 20 picks. I really like the kid, but I have to agree with the WTH??? top 7 pick. I really thought he would be a 2nd or a 3rd pick. He is going to have more pressure on him to perform (right outta the box) than anyother player taken in the 1st round. I hope he can handle it.

WVSaint · 03-22-2008, 09:14 AM

in my eyes, if he didnt have cromartie in his last name and his cousin didnt have the year he had this year, we wouldnt be having this discussion. he'd be picked up in the later rounds. i think he has a lot of potential, but a top 10 pick? no way.

lsutigerfan · 03-22-2008, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by HUSKER

Is Cromartie the most overated player in the draft or is it just me? Any player that jumps that far in such a small amount of time is just there because of his post-season numbers, not unlike a player named Mike Mamula. He came out of nowhere and got drafted high and never did anything. Lets take a player that can win at a high level and stop getting small school players.

If we go by your small school theory then I guess we shouldn't have drafted Colston.

ScottF · 03-23-2008, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by lsutigerfan

If we go by your small school theory then I guess we shouldn't have drafted Colston.

Well, if DRC if is available in the 7th round also I think we should take him

jdolbear · 03-23-2008, 05:32 PM

We all know that small school players can preform at the nfl level. Everyone is talking about small school players like DRC and Moss but heres another one for yall, Jerry Rice. We have made some big improvements in the d this offseason but i still think we need a true lookdown cb. At first i was like who is the kid (DRC), then i started to research him and i have to agree with most people including Dieon. If he is there at ten take him, that is if New Egland doesnt first.

iceshack149 · 03-24-2008, 05:55 PM

I haven't studied Rogers-Cromartie so I have no personal knowledge of his play but I read in the Sporting News magazine that "In college, Rogers-Cromartie often got beat by receivers who will never play in the NFL. But he started climbing draft boards with an excellent Senior Bowl week and then broke out at the combine."

Yikes.
I'm still on the Rivers bandwagon. Assuming that Rivers is still available at 10 I'm hoping that the Saints pick him. I think that he'll benefit this defense more than any of the CB's that will be there for the Saints.

03-22-2008, 03:06 AM	#1
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03-22-2008, 06:53 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Cromartie? LOL talk about it. Earlier a 3rd or 4th round sleeper to top 20 pick. Scares me. what was he doing all year long?

03-22-2008, 07:38 AM	#3
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,419	Re: Cromartie? Originally Posted by HUSKER Any player that jumps that far in such a small amount of time is just there because of his post-season numbers, not unlike a player named Mike Mamula. He came out of nowhere and got drafted high and never did anything. Lets take a player that can win at a high level and stop getting small school players. I lived through the Mamula experiment in Philly and I can safely say that they drafted him almost purley on his athleticism displayed at the NFL Combines thinking that would translate into a freakish DE like LT. The only impact he ended up having is a new stat for the NFL called "Hurries", referring to putting pressure on the QB without actually recording a sack. Eagle fans still affectionately refer to them as "Mamulas". But your point is well taken Husker. This franchise has developed a habit of searching outside of the box looking for that lightning in a bottle player (a la Colston) and it doesn't really seem to pay off from a impact standpoint, although payroll wise, its prudent. Sometimes when you want Filet Mignon, you have to pay the top dollar to get it. Try to get it for hamburger prices and you're likely to end up severely disappointed.
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03-22-2008, 09:00 AM	#4
thesaintsfan The Real Deal Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 174	Re: Cromartie? I totally agree and I was saying the same thing about DRC on another thread. Some guys on that thread were talking about how good DRC will be and how we need to get him at 10. The point that I brought up was that before the senior bowl very few average fans had even heard of him and then all of the sudden you got guys talking like they've known about him the whole time. Now you have people who have never even seen him play proclaiming him as the second coming of Deion. It's so funny how people get caught up in the hype surrounding certain players every year about this time. I was told to go to youtube and watch DRC's highlight video. The guy said that after I watched the video I would "understand why we need DRC". So I watched it and yeah he looks like a freakin animal but I also noticed that he was the only real athlete on the field in his games. He was a man among boys. Don't get me wrong, the guy has talent and lots of it but it takes alot more than raw talent to be a NFL starter. He has the tools to be a great CB with proper coaching but that will take some time. I against taking any of this year's CBs at #10. IMHO none of them are worthy of such a high pick. I'd rather us get a safer player like Ellis or Rivers who would be more likely to start this year.

03-22-2008, 08:54 AM	#5
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Cromartie? It could be considered a very risky move to pick him up in the first 20 picks. I really like the kid, but I have to agree with the WTH??? top 7 pick. I really thought he would be a 2nd or a 3rd pick. He is going to have more pressure on him to perform (right outta the box) than anyother player taken in the 1st round. I hope he can handle it.

03-22-2008, 09:14 AM	#6
WVSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 807	Re: Cromartie? in my eyes, if he didnt have cromartie in his last name and his cousin didnt have the year he had this year, we wouldnt be having this discussion. he'd be picked up in the later rounds. i think he has a lot of potential, but a top 10 pick? no way.

03-22-2008, 10:23 AM	#7
lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: Cromartie? Originally Posted by HUSKER Is Cromartie the most overated player in the draft or is it just me? Any player that jumps that far in such a small amount of time is just there because of his post-season numbers, not unlike a player named Mike Mamula. He came out of nowhere and got drafted high and never did anything. Lets take a player that can win at a high level and stop getting small school players. If we go by your small school theory then I guess we shouldn't have drafted Colston.

03-23-2008, 04:44 PM	#8
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Cromartie? Originally Posted by lsutigerfan If we go by your small school theory then I guess we shouldn't have drafted Colston. Well, if DRC if is available in the 7th round also I think we should take him

03-23-2008, 05:32 PM	#9
jdolbear Rookie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Billings,Mt Posts: 1	Re: Cromartie? We all know that small school players can preform at the nfl level. Everyone is talking about small school players like DRC and Moss but heres another one for yall, Jerry Rice. We have made some big improvements in the d this offseason but i still think we need a true lookdown cb. At first i was like who is the kid (DRC), then i started to research him and i have to agree with most people including Dieon. If he is there at ten take him, that is if New Egland doesnt first.

03-24-2008, 05:55 PM	#10
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,334 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Cromartie? I haven't studied Rogers-Cromartie so I have no personal knowledge of his play but I read in the Sporting News magazine that "In college, Rogers-Cromartie often got beat by receivers who will never play in the NFL. But he started climbing draft boards with an excellent Senior Bowl week and then broke out at the combine." Yikes. I'm still on the Rivers bandwagon. Assuming that Rivers is still available at 10 I'm hoping that the Saints pick him. I think that he'll benefit this defense more than any of the CB's that will be there for the Saints.
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