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Euphoria 03-25-2008 03:22 PM

Re: Kirwin's 1st Mock Draft
 
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Originally Posted by saintsmissile (Post 159420)
Starting DT's in this past Pro Bowl:

DT: Kevin Williams, Pat Williams
A. Haynesworth, Vince Wilfork

Now, how many were top 10 draft picks?

If getting to the Pro Bowl is your foucus by all means do what ya want but we are talking about what we need to win.... PRESSURE. Again JD isn't a pro bowl CB yet he's got a ring.

Take it away... go ahead... YOU CAN'T.

rjakapeanut 03-25-2008 03:24 PM

Re: Kirwin's 1st Mock Draft
 
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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 159426)
If getting to the Pro Bowl is your foucus by all means do what ya want but we are talking about what we need to win.... PRESSURE. Again JD isn't a pro bowl CB yet he's got a ring.

Take it away... go ahead... YOU CAN'T.

I don't even know what to say to this. You would probably score a 4 on the Wonderlic.

LOL.

Euphoria 03-25-2008 03:28 PM

Re: Kirwin's 1st Mock Draft
 
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Originally Posted by rjakapeanut (Post 159429)
I don't even know what to say to this. You would probably score a 4 on the Wonderlic.

LOL.

I don't find this funny... and be careful about making things personal around here... thats all I am going to say.

You still can't take that ring from him.

dasaints26 03-25-2008 04:05 PM

Re: Kirwin's 1st Mock Draft
 
Football remains a team sport. It is probably better to have average talent across the board than have exceptional talent in one area combined with poor talent in another area.
Say we have great players on the d-line but poor coverage players. That pressure is little help with wr screens or quick slants. Some of those 300 long pass plays last year started out on 5yd slants. What if our cbs break off of coverage because they thought the qb winked at them the d-line pressure wont help if the qb just has to lob the ball in the wr general area.
And no matter how great the shut-down corners are after 10 seconds someone is going to get open. In this team sport the players have to work together and help each other out.
Everyone has an opinion on what is the biggest need for this team. As that old saying goes 'Opinions are like...' well I forgot how that saying goes I only scored a 4 on my Wonderlick.
Opposing teams will discover the weakness in a defense and try to take advantage of it. Last year it was clearly JD and hopefully all the on-the-job-training will improve his play. With a little better safety help teams should have a harder time completing 80yd pass plays against us next year.
Faine is now the highest paid center and there is no way you can take that away from him.

Euphoria 03-25-2008 05:01 PM

Re: Kirwin's 1st Mock Draft
 
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Originally Posted by dasaints26 (Post 159448)
Football remains a team sport. It is probably better to have average talent across the board than have exceptional talent in one area combined with poor talent in another area.
Say we have great players on the d-line but poor coverage players. That pressure is little help with wr screens or quick slants. Some of those 300 long pass plays last year started out on 5yd slants. What if our cbs break off of coverage because they thought the qb winked at them the d-line pressure wont help if the qb just has to lob the ball in the wr general area.
And no matter how great the shut-down corners are after 10 seconds someone is going to get open. In this team sport the players have to work together and help each other out.
Everyone has an opinion on what is the biggest need for this team. As that old saying goes 'Opinions are like...' well I forgot how that saying goes I only scored a 4 on my Wonderlick.
Opposing teams will discover the weakness in a defense and try to take advantage of it. Last year it was clearly JD and hopefully all the on-the-job-training will improve his play. With a little better safety help teams should have a harder time completing 80yd pass plays against us next year.
Faine is now the highest paid center and there is no way you can take that away from him.

Ahh yes get some pressure. The cure-all for any D... ask the Defending Super Bowl Champs the Giants for shutting down one of the better offenses in league history.

Yes you can take Faine's money from him... taxes, fines ect. Bucs can keep him. It'll only make our D look better.
But you can't take a Super Bowl ring from anyone, well unless you're OJ right. LOL. But you're still on that championship roster and it won't be long until a Center is making more money with inflation ect so you can still take that away. We could also sue him for being a fraud -impersonating a Professional Football Center.

Rsanders24 03-25-2008 05:41 PM

Re: Kirwin's 1st Mock Draft
 
I know that I probably will get ripped for saying this but something about Ellis reeks average at best. The only DT that stands out to me is Dorsey and if we can't get him then I say wait until a later round. What would that cost us anyway considering we don't have a fourth round pick. I say let stay put and take the BPA.

hagan714 03-25-2008 07:42 PM

Re: Kirwin's 1st Mock Draft
 
Rsanders24 you wont get ripped for the best player available but you will need to a little more civil though. Do not get Euphoria started.


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