Meet the Saints 2008

foreverfan · 04-09-2008, 06:34 PM

Here's My Saints Team 2008

QB - Brees/Brunell/Palko
HB - Thomas/Bush/McAllister/Stecker
FB - Karney
WR - Colston/Moore/S. Green
WR - Meachem/Patten/Henderson/Copper
TE - Shockey, E. Johnson/B. Miller
LT - J. Brown/J. Bushrod
LG - Nesbit/Alleman
C - Goodwin/Lehr
RG - Evans/Rookie
RT - Strief/Stinchcomb

LE - Grant/Cooper
RE - Smith/McCray
DT - B. Young/O. Harris/Rookie
NT - H. Thomas/K. Clancy
SLB - Fujita/Shanle
MLB - Vilma/Mitchell
WLB - Morgan/Rookie
LCB - Lito/Young/J David
RCB - McKenzie/R. Gay/Craft
SS - Harper/Bullocks/Rookie
FS - Glenn/Kaesviharn
P - Weatherford
K - Gramatica
KR - S. Green/Rookie
PR - R. Bush/L. Moore
LS - Houser

Swap picks for Lito and 2rd pick for Shockey.

Euphoria · 04-09-2008, 06:40 PM

There's no nose tackle in a 4-3. LOL

hagan714 · 04-10-2008, 09:29 AM

In the 4-3 you always have more beef on the strong side than the weak side. So thats why the saints do list one of the DT as a NT. That way you know which side of the OC they line up on. Why do they use OC when there is no DC any way?

WR - Colston/
WR - Meachem/
Slot - Patten/ Rookie

Henderson/Copper/Moore/S. Green all replacable. One if not 2 of them will not be here.

LG - Nesbit/Alleman
C - Goodwin/Lehr
RG - Evans/Duckworth

Other than that I have to wait and see how all these defensive trades work out. That could be fun

patdog · 04-10-2008, 04:27 PM

R U saying A. Glenn will start at free safety?

SmashMouth · 04-10-2008, 08:06 PM

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rjakapeanut · 04-10-2008, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

There's no nose tackle in a 4-3. LOL

I still haven't found a post of yours I didn't dislike.

phatoosdey · 04-10-2008, 08:22 PM

word on the street Houser is a lock!

LordOfEntropy · 04-11-2008, 03:00 PM

Good article, covers the basics of defensive line play. It's worth a read, even if it's just to brush up.

-LoE

FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Defensive Line Basics: Mind the Gap

A 3-technique tackle, therefore, is one who usually lines up between the guard and tackle, with all privileges, rights, and responsibilities associated with the position. Each technique comes with a set of reads and keys, specific to the defensive system, the offensive formation, and the down-and-distance situation. In most systems, on most plays, a tackle lined up in 3-technique is supposed to shoot the gap immediately; in a 4-technique, one step to the right or left, his job might be to bottle up the offensive tackle so a linebacker can shoot the gap. In the 2-gap, tackles are often told to "draw responsibility" from two blockers, the football equivalent of "eating space" in basketball.

Why is there so much emphasis on 3-technique tackles lately? Basically, there are two types of tackles. There's the Ted Washington type, who weighs 320 pounds before a meal and is known for his size and power, not his quickness (though many of these players are pretty quick). Then there are players like the Kevin Williams and Rod Coleman: 290-pounders who are quick enough to shoot a gap or execute a stunt. These latter players are 3-technique tackles. The Washington-types aren't called 0-technique or 1-technique tackles because they already have a better name: nose tackles.

The 3-technique tackle is in short supply because few players leave college with the right mix of strength, explosiveness, technique, and durability. Systems like Tony Dungy's rely heavily on 3-technique tackles to disrupt the interior of the offensive line. For most defensive coordinators, heaven is a 3-technique tackle who is in the backfield on every play, a 0-technique tackle who requires two blockers and controls two gaps, and a pass rushing end (7,8,or 9 technique) who also requires a double team on every play.

Euphoria · 04-11-2008, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by rjakapeanut

I still haven't found a post of yours I didn't dislike.

and yet my post isn't wrong... I am glad you keep pointing this out because its starting to show your agenda. If you have something to say on the topic please do so but I advise you to refrain from getting personal here.

LordOfEntropy · 04-11-2008, 03:34 PM

Actually, no disrespect or anything, but it is possible to have a nose tackle in a 4-3.

Please don't take me wrong, I'm not trying to stir up anything. I just wanted to point out that 4-3 or 3-4 is irrelevant where NT is concerned.

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04-09-2008, 06:40 PM	#2
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Meet the Saints 2008 There's no nose tackle in a 4-3. LOL

04-10-2008, 09:29 AM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Meet the Saints 2008 In the 4-3 you always have more beef on the strong side than the weak side. So thats why the saints do list one of the DT as a NT. That way you know which side of the OC they line up on. Why do they use OC when there is no DC any way? WR - Colston/ WR - Meachem/ Slot - Patten/ Rookie Henderson/Copper/Moore/S. Green all replacable. One if not 2 of them will not be here. LG - Nesbit/Alleman C - Goodwin/Lehr RG - Evans/Duckworth Other than that I have to wait and see how all these defensive trades work out. That could be fun
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rjakapeanut 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 204	Re: Meet the Saints 2008 Originally Posted by Euphoria There's no nose tackle in a 4-3. LOL I still haven't found a post of yours I didn't dislike.
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LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: Meet the Saints 2008 Good article, covers the basics of defensive line play. It's worth a read, even if it's just to brush up. -LoE FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Defensive Line Basics: Mind the Gap A 3-technique tackle, therefore, is one who usually lines up between the guard and tackle, with all privileges, rights, and responsibilities associated with the position. Each technique comes with a set of reads and keys, specific to the defensive system, the offensive formation, and the down-and-distance situation. In most systems, on most plays, a tackle lined up in 3-technique is supposed to shoot the gap immediately; in a 4-technique, one step to the right or left, his job might be to bottle up the offensive tackle so a linebacker can shoot the gap. In the 2-gap, tackles are often told to "draw responsibility" from two blockers, the football equivalent of "eating space" in basketball. Why is there so much emphasis on 3-technique tackles lately? Basically, there are two types of tackles. There's the Ted Washington type, who weighs 320 pounds before a meal and is known for his size and power, not his quickness (though many of these players are pretty quick). Then there are players like the Kevin Williams and Rod Coleman: 290-pounders who are quick enough to shoot a gap or execute a stunt. These latter players are 3-technique tackles. The Washington-types aren't called 0-technique or 1-technique tackles because they already have a better name: nose tackles. The 3-technique tackle is in short supply because few players leave college with the right mix of strength, explosiveness, technique, and durability. Systems like Tony Dungy's rely heavily on 3-technique tackles to disrupt the interior of the offensive line. For most defensive coordinators, heaven is a 3-technique tackle who is in the backfield on every play, a 0-technique tackle who requires two blockers and controls two gaps, and a pass rushing end (7,8,or 9 technique) who also requires a double team on every play.
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04-11-2008, 03:14 PM	#9
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Meet the Saints 2008 Originally Posted by rjakapeanut I still haven't found a post of yours I didn't dislike. and yet my post isn't wrong... I am glad you keep pointing this out because its starting to show your agenda. If you have something to say on the topic please do so but I advise you to refrain from getting personal here.

04-11-2008, 03:34 PM	#10
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: Meet the Saints 2008 Actually, no disrespect or anything, but it is possible to have a nose tackle in a 4-3. Please don't take me wrong, I'm not trying to stir up anything. I just wanted to point out that 4-3 or 3-4 is irrelevant where NT is concerned.