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I agree that the #10 pick HAS to yield defensive talent. No question

... but out of the 6 TEs the Saints have, the best one is Billy Miller. Yes, Billy Miller. So, I would not mind the 2nd round pick going to the Giants for Shockey, unless someone can guarantee me that they'll get Ellis in the first round and Connor in the 2nd round.

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Good.

Actually I agree with this assessment. I think Billy Miller should win the starting job outright. All he seems to do is make plays.

I'd love that guarantee too. But sadly it's probably going to take a move up to #7 or #8 to get Ellis and may require some shuffling of the #2 or #3 pick to pull it off.

So I don't think an Ellis/Connor (or Ellis/Mayo?) would be a lock by any stretch of the imagination.

But the talk sounds like the Saints offense will go kaput if they don't get Shockey. Or Chad Johnson. Thank goodness the Clady chatter finally died.

What this offense needs more than anything else is a defense that supports them and erases their inevitable screwups. A defense that can get scoring in the ballpark of 17 PPG. That defense coupled with the existing healthy offense will most likely be in Tampa come next January.

A TE won't get the Saints to the promised land. A stud DT/LB/CB combo with the existing offense just may be able to pull it off.

SFIAH

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Getting Dorsey will cost a whole lot more than swapping 1's and giving our 2.

If we do loose Harper then we should trade back from #10 for more value picks.

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Maybe so but using the updated value chart for picks

Rams #2 = 1900

Saints #10= 1375 + Saints #40 500 = 1875

With the Rams having needs all across the board, they would seemingly like to trade down.

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I am not crazy about Harper and a late pick at all.

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I think that Shockey is a great pass catching, play making tight, but it seemed when given the opportunity Billy Miller was a major asset. I remember in many games last year(and at crucial times) he and Colston weremkng the huge plays. And I could be wrong but it seemed like he was always creating seperation between defenders. I could be off but it seems like he could be an offensive weapon. I just think we should load up on defense as much as possible. Any thoughts on Miller.

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I am not a fan of this. I do not think we are in this big of a need for a TE

I believe our offense will be fine without Shockey

I would hope we could possibly pick another defensive player and build some depth either in the Secondary/Line

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A voice of reason screaming in the wilderness.

I just wanted to let you know that I hear you. I hear you.

SFIAH

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I like Billy Miller and he is an asset as a receiver. His greatest value is finding the gaps underneath and settling in for the dumpoff. Shockey would bring a different dimension to the offense in that he can not only catch the dumpoff, but also make something out of it. Again, I think Miller is great for Brees being able to check off to, but Shockey provides mismatch problems against any defense in the league along with the ability to stretch the middle of the field as well as make plays in the seams of the defense. If it happens, it adds a great dimension to the offense. If somehow it could happen with Harper and a late pick, you still leave yourself the flexibility to make a play at Dorsey, or stay at 10 and take Rivers or a corner. You also hang onto the 2nd round pick where you can either go corner/LB/DT or possibly even get a Kenny Phillips if he somehow falls to replace Harper at S. I like Harper but I think that Bullocks and KK can get effectively get the job done with some other players around them. Ideally, I would like to see the Shockey trade happen for Bullocks in a late pick, but that may be wishful thinking.

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im sorry but i totally disagree with this.. after reggie brees and colston we have an injured deuce and a bunch of other players who wouldnt likely see playing time on alot of other teams.. we definetly need another playmaker on offense to take the pressure off colston and reggie to do something..