zachsaints52

10 New Orleans Saints Assuming we wanted to trade back the teams with a need at RB are Chicago, Detroit, Arizona (If you think they think Edge is done), Houston, Dallas( to compliment MBIII)
11 Buffalo Bills CB is likely
12 Denver Broncos Bailey and Bly, wont use a first on.
13 Carolina Panthers Looking offensive
14 Chicago Bears Maybe CB, but not as high as RB/OT
15 Detroit Lions Very likely RB or CB
16 Arizona Cardinals Likely as well for both
17 Minnesota Vikings Griffin and Winfield, I dont believe they need one right now?
18 Houston Texans With Duanta out they need big time CB but also RB
19 Philadelphia Eagles Not really at all CB or RB
20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers With Kelley gone possible CB but RB not as much.
21 Washington Redskins DE or OT
22 Dallas Cowboys RB is possible and CB

So if you look at it and we trade with a mid-10 pick we shouold get one of the Top 3 CBs in the draft, all depending on each teams draft board.

BRSaintsFan

I disagree for the need at RB being dire enough to select 1 in the first round regardless of who the player is. I dont care if Adrian Peterson was in the draft - there would not be enough balls to go around to the players we have on offense considering the money we dish out to them. Should the Saints really believe that McAllister cant go this season, then that is another issue, but again I dont take McFadden, I trade down and get Stewart as I think he is the best compliment to Reggie. I think the Saints are fine going into the season with the guys we have. I do not think that it would be a bad idea to add a Forte to the mix but not to spend the first rounder on a RB unless we gain some more picks by trading down.

CantonLegend

the only reason we are focusing so much on defense is because we take for granted that our offense is amazing....our offense struggled when we couldnt run the ball and drew took a lot of heat last year for it....if we could get a 1st and 2nd down back and have reggie there for 3rd down i think we would take it.....im a fan of duece...but sometimes u gotta know when ur done....duece is injury prone and if we dont have a starting running back...that should be our number one priority

BRSaintsFan

I agree that the offense needs a solid running game to be firing on all cylinders and I am not opposed to taking a back. However, first, reggie will not be relegated strictly to a third down back role. He will get his touches and he will get them often. I do not think that Deuce will be anywhere near his former self. By drafting another RB, especially in the first round, you are investing so much money into the position that you are then guaranteeing that you cut Deuce and likely Stecker or Thomas as well. Granted Deuce restructured his deal, but you can not justify paying Reggie, Deuce, and based on what you were saying assumingly McFadden to split carries 3 ways in any way. You also have as good an argument as any for McFadden as being the best talent in the draft. And I do not think that you will have any character issues with him once he is in the league. However, your greatest value is not taking McFadden assuming he falls to 10. If he falls that far, many a teams will be chomping at the bit for a trade to 10 to take him. Your greatest value at that point is not adding him to the team but trading out of the position (and I am not an advocate of trading down) nonetheless and getting value picks for him. This way you can still take a one of the slew of RBs (and dont forget that great RB value can be found in the middle rounds especially considering the number of touches a new RB would get in our offense) and also have the opportunity to improve your defense.

Also, I do not feel that McFadden fits our offense even if he is going to take all of the 1st and 2nd down carries. His penchant for fumbling is well documented. While this is an easy fix (Tiki Barber) by teaching a RB to carry the ball high and tight and on the outside of the tacklers, it does not fit McFadden's upright style of running. It forces him to run even higher than he presently does and completely eliminates his ability to run with good pad level (which is pivotal for a quality 1st and 2nd down RB). You are better served with a different back albeit maybe not as explosive that can pound out yards between the tackles to force the defense to compact in toward the pack and allow more room for Reggie and the other playmakers on the team. By drafting McFadden, you are adding a bigger, stronger Reggie Bush, but not necessarily a runner who can effectively pound the ball in the trenches and get the extra yards.

CantonLegend

while ur response is long and frustrating for me to read cuz my head hurts i agree in part....mcfadden has the speed but his side to side quickness isnt there....coaches in the nfl fix simple problems like carrying the ball correctly....however if ur concerns are with fumbling or ball control.....which is a problem already cuz reggie likes dropping the ball...mike hart would provide the ball security and with his tight package would be able to pound for yardage....that would be a great pickup if mcfadden fell to 10 because we would trade back....and pick up a CB and then pick up Mike Hart....while it seems farfetched i dont count it out....it is very possible considering the top 9 picks are going to teams that mostly dont consider running back their top priority

"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

BRSaintsFan

haha...its still great that we are going back and forth at this time of night...i agree that the problem can and will get fixed for him in the pros but i dont like him as a compliment to the guys we already have...if we needed an explosive runner who can hit the seam and take it for a big play, then he is definetly the guy...but i think a jonathan stewart or matt forte better compliments reggie and the rest of the offense....i like mike hart...he doesnt have the best times or size/speed combo, but his consistency and ball control are second to none...he is certainly worth a pickup later on (not in the first)

zachsaints52

I'd say Hart goes in the third, and yeah its late but in a week we can sleep

CantonLegend

the only problem is that we dont have a big runner...reggie is tiny...aaron isnt ne bigger but is stout...pierre thomas is too skinny and duece is a question mark to play every season...if size is the issue we go with a bigger back...i think that speed is not an issue...the saints are one of the fastest running back teams in the nfl....we need a grind it out short yardage back....that would come in the later rounds with the backs that everybody throws out cuz their 40 times arent elite....we need a big back that can split carries with reggie but still be able to catch the swing pass and take it yard....much to my surprise sean still likes the flat passes and the trick plays....a play action up the middle with a big back would be great since reggie would be sneaking passed defenders and going deep

"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

CantonLegend

oh yea i work on saturday so somebody's gotta message me and let me know who we drafted....i expect a full report....actually i'd just appreciate it

lsutigerfan

I agree noway do we draft mcfadden its unlikely he falls to us but if he did we'd be forced to entertain trade offer like with oh I dont know Dallas.