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Let\'s get one thing straight JoeSam. This is just a Saints board and I don\'t give a damn.

Forget what other people say you\'ve got 2 eyes. Go back and read the thread but your too damn hard headed .

You want me gone..........BYE BYE

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Oh God, Billy, oops. I\'m sorry now everyone on this \"just a Saints board\" will know who you truely are. It must be hard being you. Never wrong, being so much smarter and better than the rest of us mere mortals. Who are we to question you. What have we done to deserve your undivided attention. We are not worthy of you. How can we ever expect to know as much about anything as you, you have so much more going than we do. We just can\'t comprehend what it must be like to be you. Please forgive us in our stupor. We\'ll try to do better. We\'ll never be you but at least we can try.

Well now that the cat is out of the bag, I bet you won\'t be able to get a bet on anything anymore. After all, you know the outcome of everything before it happens.

[Edited on 19/8/2003 by JOESAM2002]

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I`m not glad to hear of Vick`s injury or any other player...(well...maybe Sapp)....but our strategy to beat Atlanta has been `STOP VICK\'.....this could open up a whole new can of worms.
Hey I`ve got an idea....let`s trade Brooks to Atlanta, that way when he throws an interception he can look over at his cousin on the sidelines and grin at him instead of us. Brooks would never have to skip a beat he could run the same plays he does here- \"yall go out for a pass, if you`re not open I`ll run or throw it up for grabs.\".....sorry, maybe that`s a little harsh...I`m just not big on Brooks.

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Please don\'t run Billy C away from this board! I really enjoy the banter and bickering he carries on with other members. You see, I don\'t have cable up here at the north pole and the internet is my best form of entertainment. Let this yenta yap and yammer at us yeoman and his yesmen all year long. Give him credit. He posts fresh off the press info in his trillion daily efforts to keep us all informed. With the articles cited, he usually offers opinion that is full in thought and generally accurate in assessment. He has passion for the Saints and is more knowledgeable than most members here. In every class there is a valedictorian and a dunce. Don\'t get your feelings hurt if you can\'t keep up in argument of a point, get over it and get out of the way. O.K. So he\'s not always right and has a hard time admitting it. He often argues the fine points of a subject. If it bothers you, don\'t engage with him. BC brings life to this board daily while some of you fellas are awol overdosing on cocktails of geritol and viagra. Don\'t be lame! Get your heads in the game (the big heads that is, not the little ones).

Now for you Billy. Calling everyone GAY that dares to take you to task on subject is just downright childish and brings your level of intellect down to earth. Try having patience with others without all the name calling and you might just make a few friends here. You may even come to realize that others can differ on opinion without being wrong in their thoughts. Opinions are just one persons beliefs. No one person is truly omniscient. Lighten up a little. Someone as BRIGHT as you should know this.

Gentle
And
Yielding

gay adj. lively, merry, bright

[Edited on 20/8/2003 by SaintNik]

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For those of you that don\'t know. This is not the first time this has happened. It has gone on long enough. We\'ve had good members leave the board over this. One gone is to many.

P.S. If you go back and look at my post, I never told him to leave. I gave him choices. He chose to leave.

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CLASSLESS.

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joe s. , i\'ve gone back and read this thread over and over again..........it seems now some posts or post have been removed.......could you please send me the complete thread.......to, smittyhold @aol.com.............the only thing i saw billy post was that there are different breaks when the break was reported as clean......as to the timing of this, i don\'t know which came first and i really don\'t care, but it seems to have started a heated debate........correct me if i\'m wrong.........from what i remember reading it\'s seems to me that billy was first provoked, again, correct me if i\'m wrong...... now, two wrongs do not a right make, but billy was being billy just i would be me.........i\'ve read a whole lot worse on this board, but again, it\'s the variety that makes it what it is..........i do not see justification in crucifying anyone for mistakes although a lot of it is done in jest on this board.........i will side with billy on this one , from what i\'ve read, until someone can provide evidence otherwise......i await to hear from you, smitty

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Did he really leave over this thread? :o If so he was too thinned skinned, it\'s just a BB not real life or anything.

Oh. well he was a quick-to-ignite hothead anyway. ;) J/K

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Sorry Smitty,once a post is gone it\'s gone. The only thing i\'m sorry for is that I didn\'t leave the things I edited so that I wouldn\'t have to defend myself for what I did. Fact is he attacked even me. Mistake. So side with who you want. If sides have to be taken. It was his choice to leave. He did have a choice. That\'s more than he gave me, he knew i\'d have to edit what I did.

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It\'s not gone. I have it right here and this is the ONLY thing that\'s missing:


I made no mistake. I didn\'t attack you at all. I told the truth. Memnoch made some comment about me being gay and called me a twit. I defended myself but yet you call me out as attacking other members when it was me that was attacked. Maybe when I said that all the stuff you said was lies was a bit strong. Maybe you just didn\'t read what he said. Either way, you were either uninformed or you were wrong.

You see JoeSam this really is all unimportant to me. I don\'t have to post here and I wouldn\'t be this time except I just want to make sure that all the facts are straight so everyone can see what the truth is. Not that it really matters but you said you wish you wouldn\'t have taken it off the board, so I just thought I would help you out.

You feel liked you were attacked by me and by looking at your posts towards me I see that you felt the need to defend yourself. Just as I did when Memnoch attacked me.

I mean you no harm JoeSam. Now I\'ll be on my way.

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As I said before, it\'s always everybody else that\'s wrong. I\'ve had enough.

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it\'s a shame. that team is nothing w/o him :D

I would like Vick a TON more if he played for someone else.

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js, as i said before, two wrongs do not make a right.......if you edit one, you need to edit the other............i stand by what i read, and if we\'re reading the same thing, i and i repeat, i, do not feel this is justification.........i am not siding with billy because of what he said, i am siding with him because he was provoked......we all need to learn to let it slide, but hell, it\'s hard sometimes...........this is how i feel.....and this is how i stand.....
and,,,,,,,,,,this is all i have to say on this matter...................smitty
now,,,,,,on to other things........the dog has been bugging me about predicting the next game and she\'s shooting a 100 so far......should i listen, or put her off til game time? she has a strong will and may force this upon me.......maybe i\'ll see what kirk has to say about this........................

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How did I know Billy couldn\'t stay away for more than a day or two? He\'ll never leave. He\'s an addict. We couldn\'t get rid of him if we wanted to.

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It is true that two wrongs don\'t make a right... But sometimes they make for a hell of alot of fun!

Wasn the insinuation that he wore \"a big red cape that looked oh so gay\" while playing hero of the message board an attack on Billy? Well, yeah. I guess I have to admit that it was. I may be new around here, but even to me it it obvious how he jumps on every opportunity to belittle the opinion of anyone who says anything. And I have no intention of listening to his argumentive trolling without a little return fire.

Does this make me a bad person? This question is actually rhetorical because if it does, I really don\'t care. I might have gone easier on him if I had known he was such a sensitive little dear. Well, no, that is a lie. If you can dish it out, you better learn to take it.

Oh, that\'s right. Billy didn\'t dish anything out. Oops, no, that\'s just typical \"I didn\'t say anything mean to anyone\" Billy denial. But you are right that Billy does make things interesting around here. I\'m glad to see he didn\'t have the willpower to keep his word and leave. Now I have the chance to engage in more verbal sparring with Billy... That is, if he can refrain from bursting into tears when someone dares to suggest that his omnipotence is flawed.

Hmm, his last reply to one of messages was so filled with stunning originality that I wonder if his response to this one will be to call me a \"Poo-Poo Head\" to maintain that high level of rebuttal. No, on second thought, I think it will be \"See Joe, I was right! I was right\" in a high pitched whine. Anyone want to start a betting pool on it?

--- Memnoch ---

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Nope, I have nothing to prove to JoeSam. He read what was said in the first place. You\'re admitting it is irrelevant and that\'s just the way it is.

What you said didn\'t bother me in the least. The only thing that bothered me was being told I was attacking other members and getting threatened by being thrown off the board because of it.

You\'re right. Two wrongs do not make a right.--And neither does three!!!

Now look you little cack gobblin\', all the smack talk in the world isn\'t going to hurt my feelings. I can dish it out with the best of em\'.

I basically tried to let you off light with the gay comment I made because I just wanted to get rid of you. However, that is not the case now....

I\'m not a gay expert but then again I don\'t need to be to know that you are a sausage-jockey. Now mount up little sauage jockey and ride your azz on outta here.


Now, you brought this upon yourself and this is all very amusing to me- I know it isn\'t to other members so if you wish to carry this on I\'m sure we can find another place to air out our dirty laundry. I will not respond to you on this site--CHUMP!!!



Oh, I almost forgot to put some of the little smiley faces on my post. I was told this makes posts like this less offensive- ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :D :D :D



[Edited on 23/8/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

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Ooh, you called me gay again. Wow, you really put me in my place. I\'m glad to hear you aren\'t going to be responding to me anymore. Since your such a man of your word I\'m sure you\'ll respond to this with another lame \"gay\" comment before the end of the day. *yawn*

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