from peter kings MMQ

pakowitz · 04-21-2008, 08:18 AM

From Monday Morning QB:

"This one really surprises me, and at first I didn't think it was true, but New Orleans is serious about trading into the top four -- preferably for LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey but not only for Dorsey. Wish I could tell you the other apple of their eye, but I don't know who he is."

Also of interest:

"The Saints and Jeremy Shockey's rookie-year offensive coordinator, Sean Payton, are still hot for the tight end. It won't get done if the Giants insist on receiving in-his-prime, 25-year-old safety Roman Harper (a 2006 second-round pick), plus the 40th pick in the draft. Harper's the best player in New Orleans' secondary, and to trade him and a second-round pick for an injury-plagued tight end who will be 28 on opening day is not an equitable deal. If the Giants want, say, Harper and a sixth-round pick for Shockey, or a second- and sixth-rounder for him, then I could see the trade getting done."

gandhi1007 · 04-21-2008, 08:31 AM

I really hope they go out & get Dorsey. We need a disruptor at the DT position & Dorsey is non-stop for four quarters.

QBREES9 · 04-21-2008, 10:37 AM

We can't give up Harper. I'm all for trading up and getting Dorsey.

saintsfan1976 · 04-21-2008, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

We can't give up Harper. I'm all for trading up and getting Dorsey.

Ditto.

Bring on Shockey and a late round pick then call it a day.

stockman311 · 04-21-2008, 01:35 PM

I just don't see how we move up for Dorsey and trade for Shockey. It probably has to be one or the other. We only have one second round pick this year. I agree though. You don't take away one of your best players on a below average defense in Harper to add a TE to your above average offense.

TheDeuce · 04-21-2008, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by stockman311

I just don't see how we move up for Dorsey and trade for Shockey. It probably has to be one or the other. We only have one second round pick this year. I agree though. You don't take away one of your best players on a below average defense in Harper to add a TE to your above average offense.

I agree with you stockman, I think it's one or the other, and I sure as hell hope we go and get Dorsey. I'm sold that he's the best defensive player in a draft that has some very good defensive players.

WVSaint · 04-21-2008, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by pakowitz

From Monday Morning QB:

"Wish I could tell you the other apple of their eye, but I don't know who he is."

anyone have any ideas who this other player might be? could payton be thinking mcfadden?

pakowitz · 04-21-2008, 01:57 PM

my thinking it might be chris long.. with will smith becoming a FA and long being a high motor guy with great character.. have a crazy pass rush on 3rd downs

pakowitz · 04-21-2008, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by stockman311

I just don't see how we move up for Dorsey and trade for Shockey. It probably has to be one or the other. We only have one second round pick this year. I agree though. You don't take away one of your best players on a below average defense in Harper to add a TE to your above average offense.

10 and 40 for the #2

Harper and a 6th for shockey

move Bullocks over to SS so he can play in the box all the time.. play KK at FS and pick up a safety in the 3rd... i could see it happen

stockman311 · 04-21-2008, 02:09 PM

Ugghhh. Bullocks and KK as our starting safeties?!? I think I just threw up in my mouth.

04-21-2008, 08:18 AM	#1
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	from peter kings MMQ From Monday Morning QB: "This one really surprises me, and at first I didn't think it was true, but New Orleans is serious about trading into the top four -- preferably for LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey but not only for Dorsey. Wish I could tell you the other apple of their eye, but I don't know who he is." Also of interest: "The Saints and Jeremy Shockey's rookie-year offensive coordinator, Sean Payton, are still hot for the tight end. It won't get done if the Giants insist on receiving in-his-prime, 25-year-old safety Roman Harper (a 2006 second-round pick), plus the 40th pick in the draft. Harper's the best player in New Orleans' secondary, and to trade him and a second-round pick for an injury-plagued tight end who will be 28 on opening day is not an equitable deal. If the Giants want, say, Harper and a sixth-round pick for Shockey, or a second- and sixth-rounder for him, then I could see the trade getting done."
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04-21-2008, 10:37 AM	#3
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: from peter kings MMQ We can't give up Harper. I'm all for trading up and getting Dorsey.

04-21-2008, 11:50 AM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: from peter kings MMQ Originally Posted by QBREES9 We can't give up Harper. I'm all for trading up and getting Dorsey. Ditto. Bring on Shockey and a late round pick then call it a day.

04-21-2008, 01:35 PM	#5
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: from peter kings MMQ I just don't see how we move up for Dorsey and trade for Shockey. It probably has to be one or the other. We only have one second round pick this year. I agree though. You don't take away one of your best players on a below average defense in Harper to add a TE to your above average offense.

04-21-2008, 01:44 PM	#6
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: from peter kings MMQ Originally Posted by stockman311 I just don't see how we move up for Dorsey and trade for Shockey. It probably has to be one or the other. We only have one second round pick this year. I agree though. You don't take away one of your best players on a below average defense in Harper to add a TE to your above average offense. I agree with you stockman, I think it's one or the other, and I sure as hell hope we go and get Dorsey. I'm sold that he's the best defensive player in a draft that has some very good defensive players.
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04-21-2008, 08:31 AM	#2
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Re: from peter kings MMQ I really hope they go out & get Dorsey. We need a disruptor at the DT position & Dorsey is non-stop for four quarters.

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WVSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 807	Re: from peter kings MMQ Originally Posted by pakowitz From Monday Morning QB: "Wish I could tell you the other apple of their eye, but I don't know who he is." anyone have any ideas who this other player might be? could payton be thinking mcfadden?

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pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: from peter kings MMQ my thinking it might be chris long.. with will smith becoming a FA and long being a high motor guy with great character.. have a crazy pass rush on 3rd downs

04-21-2008, 01:59 PM	#9
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: from peter kings MMQ Originally Posted by stockman311 I just don't see how we move up for Dorsey and trade for Shockey. It probably has to be one or the other. We only have one second round pick this year. I agree though. You don't take away one of your best players on a below average defense in Harper to add a TE to your above average offense. 10 and 40 for the #2 Harper and a 6th for shockey move Bullocks over to SS so he can play in the box all the time.. play KK at FS and pick up a safety in the 3rd... i could see it happen

04-21-2008, 02:09 PM	#10
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: from peter kings MMQ Ugghhh. Bullocks and KK as our starting safeties?!? I think I just threw up in my mouth.