Has disappointment set in?

CantonLegend · 04-26-2008, 08:04 PM

ur right there isnt much to go on to say who will be a better pro...except for the past....brandon flowers got more hype for a reason...he's a better prospect than porter....i like porters speed but his tackling and size will be an issue....he wont get beat deep but he will definitly not help in the open field

Bobaganoosh · 04-26-2008, 08:14 PM

Porter had 80 tackles last year...that is extremely high for a CB. He has the speed and athletic ability to fit in our defense...no he wont start this year, most rookie CB's dont, and the ones that do are rarely effective in their rookie season. Dont compare any CB in this draft to Aaron Ross, Revis or Hall from last year because those 3 are head and shoulders better than any CB that came out this year. Flowers played on a better team with a better team around him, and that is why he got hyped more. He is not the best fit for the Saints because of his lack of top end speed.

I dont know about you, but i am tired of having a slow defense and guys like Brandon Flowers and Dan Conner would not have changed that. We actually added a force on the d-line, a speedy athletic young MLB, and the fastest CB in the draft. In one years time, we added 4 CB's that are 25 or younger and that allowed us to get rid of guys like Thomas and now Craft and we actually have some athletes on the back end that will be able to learn together and make some plays. Usama Young is going to be a very good CB one day, and i believe Porter will too. Porter's strong suit is matching up with smaller, speedy WR's and that is exactly what he is going to be dealing with in the NFC South...Steve Smith, Roddy White, Galloway...no big physical guys...all speed guys.

WhoDatQB · 04-26-2008, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

ur right there isnt much to go on to say who will be a better pro...except for the past....brandon flowers got more hype for a reason...he's a better prospect than porter....i like porters speed but his tackling and size will be an issue....he wont get beat deep but he will definitly not help in the open field

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and if anyone had known that Colston would have been as good as he is he would have gone in the first two rounds. No one can say Flowers is better than Porter you cannot judge a draft until after three years, we took the best CB available at the time and did not give up anymore draft picks for him.

beauchristopher · 04-26-2008, 08:33 PM

i posted this in another threat but i prefer him over flowers for our system. flowers is physical but could cost us the deep ball because he tends to stare down the backfield(another JD).. and he is not as consistent. He's very aggressive and can beaten by double-moves. (Jason David 101)

Porter has 1 inch on flowers in height. Has much better speed. Is much more of a playmaker on the ball with larger hands.. He possesses elite change of direction which is perfect for what we need. His main knock is bulk/strength.. mainly against the run but we have a great run D.. especially with all the linebackers we added.

Porter= "One of the nation's top playmaking defensive backs, Tracy Porter became the first player in school history to return a punt, interception and fumble for touchdowns in his career."

04-26-2008, 08:04 PM	#1
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Has disappointment set in? ur right there isnt much to go on to say who will be a better pro...except for the past....brandon flowers got more hype for a reason...he's a better prospect than porter....i like porters speed but his tackling and size will be an issue....he wont get beat deep but he will definitly not help in the open field

04-26-2008, 08:14 PM	#2
Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Has disappointment set in? Porter had 80 tackles last year...that is extremely high for a CB. He has the speed and athletic ability to fit in our defense...no he wont start this year, most rookie CB's dont, and the ones that do are rarely effective in their rookie season. Dont compare any CB in this draft to Aaron Ross, Revis or Hall from last year because those 3 are head and shoulders better than any CB that came out this year. Flowers played on a better team with a better team around him, and that is why he got hyped more. He is not the best fit for the Saints because of his lack of top end speed. I dont know about you, but i am tired of having a slow defense and guys like Brandon Flowers and Dan Conner would not have changed that. We actually added a force on the d-line, a speedy athletic young MLB, and the fastest CB in the draft. In one years time, we added 4 CB's that are 25 or younger and that allowed us to get rid of guys like Thomas and now Craft and we actually have some athletes on the back end that will be able to learn together and make some plays. Usama Young is going to be a very good CB one day, and i believe Porter will too. Porter's strong suit is matching up with smaller, speedy WR's and that is exactly what he is going to be dealing with in the NFC South...Steve Smith, Roddy White, Galloway...no big physical guys...all speed guys.
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04-26-2008, 08:29 PM	#3
WhoDatQB Boondock Saint Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: F***ing Atlanta Posts: 322	Re: Has disappointment set in? Originally Posted by CantonLegend ur right there isnt much to go on to say who will be a better pro...except for the past....brandon flowers got more hype for a reason...he's a better prospect than porter....i like porters speed but his tackling and size will be an issue....he wont get beat deep but he will definitly not help in the open field ============== and if anyone had known that Colston would have been as good as he is he would have gone in the first two rounds. No one can say Flowers is better than Porter you cannot judge a draft until after three years, we took the best CB available at the time and did not give up anymore draft picks for him.

04-26-2008, 08:33 PM	#4
beauchristopher 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 227	Re: Has disappointment set in? i posted this in another threat but i prefer him over flowers for our system. flowers is physical but could cost us the deep ball because he tends to stare down the backfield(another JD).. and he is not as consistent. He's very aggressive and can beaten by double-moves. (Jason David 101) Porter has 1 inch on flowers in height. Has much better speed. Is much more of a playmaker on the ball with larger hands.. He possesses elite change of direction which is perfect for what we need. His main knock is bulk/strength.. mainly against the run but we have a great run D.. especially with all the linebackers we added. Porter= "One of the nation's top playmaking defensive backs, Tracy Porter became the first player in school history to return a punt, interception and fumble for touchdowns in his career."