texans take a swipe at reggie......

RickyInKenner · 04-28-2008, 09:23 PM

well....he is right. they ended up with a better player, as of right now. mario williams had a pro bowl season last season, for sure. in only his second season, thats pretty impressive. not just a pro bowl season, a GREAT pro bowl season.

but i think reggie will live up to the hype. he isnt now though.

nedly · 04-28-2008, 10:19 PM

This will probably be the year that Reggie shuts people up in a big way. He is not just an average back, he's not just a third down back. Once he gets coached up and turns mean he's gonna turn into Walter Payton. JMO.

CantonLegend · 04-28-2008, 10:23 PM

haha walter payton is a different kind of runner....try comparing him to barry sanders...thats more of the kind of back he is....even tho i dont think those comparisons are fair....reggie is neither one of them

jeanpierre · 04-28-2008, 11:38 PM

Reggie spends to much time with Kardishian, making him soft, well

anyways

Michael Westbrook took a few years to get the rhythm of the NFL game, so I say this year the Real Reggie Bush, Come On Down to the Poydras EndZone...

RickyInKenner · 04-28-2008, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Reggie spends to much time with Kardishian, making him soft, well

anyways

Michael Westbrook took a few years to get the rhythm of the NFL game, so I say this year the Real Reggie Bush, Come On Down to the Poydras EndZone...

michael? u mean brian?

if so, i think so too since it took westbrook like 3 yers to become as great as he is today

CantonLegend · 04-28-2008, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Reggie spends to much time with Kardishian, making him soft, well

anyways

Michael Westbrook took a few years to get the rhythm of the NFL game, so I say this year the Real Reggie Bush, Come On Down to the Poydras EndZone...

shes a babe....i would spend as much time with her as i could too

Tobias-Reiper · 04-29-2008, 07:39 AM

We need to stop here and think about this.

Everyone gets hung up on Reggie's rushing yards, as in yards gained after hand offs. However, Mr. Shanahan is conveniently omitting Reggie's passing yards.

He is also conveniently omitting that Reggie's passing yards are about 95% yards after the catch, and that the overwhelming majority of passes Reggie catches are screen passes behind the line of scrimmage.

If the hangup is numbers, well, in 2 years Reggie has 1,146+ rushing yards and 1159 receiving yards, which is pretty good on itself, but then he isn't the only one that get fed the ball, since Payton's offense distributes it well to other players.

As for Mario Williams, congrats on his 14 sacks last year. Unfortunately for the Texans, that accounted for 25% of Mario's total tackles for 2007, both solo and assisted.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 04-29-2008, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint

Well I can tell you right now, Reggie is gonna shut a lot of people up this year. This is going to be his year to shine. Mark my words.

I guess I'm going to have to be Reggie's PR guy. Reggie's hype was supposed to be that dude can take 15 carries a game from the backfield and get 1500 yds/year carrying the football. Only one player in NFL history has gotten over 1500 yards with a 6.25 YPC average over the course of a year (which is required if you're only going to have 250 carries). That was Jim Brown in 1963 (and close in 1958)

Reggie was an instrumental cog in getting the Saints to the NFC championship in 2006. Reggie has broken records for RB receptions. Reggie make defenses and their coordinators account for him every play he's on the field. On the field Reggie is a difference maker.

Most importantly Reggie has put a face on the Saints franchise when the Saints most needed a face. Personally it drives me crazy how average Joes gravitate to the guy. But it is certainly what the Saints needed.

And finally Reggie has run the ball well at times when given the opportunity. The Giants game in 2006. Seattle in 2007.

But truthfully it limits the Saints offense to have Reggie as the feature back. It makes it easier to key on him.

All I ask of Reggie in the run game is to continue to work on getting positive yards when he touches the ball. Don't dance until you get past the LOS. Once he learns (and truly believes) that he's better off with one cut and go, then you'll see more positive results in his run game.

SFIAH

Budsdrinker · 04-29-2008, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I guess I'm going to have to be Reggie's PR guy. Reggie's hype was supposed to be that dude can take 15 carries a game from the backfield and get 1500 yds/year carrying the football. Only one player in NFL history has gotten over 1500 yards with a 6.25 YPC average over the course of a year (which is required if you're only going to have 250 carries). That was Jim Brown in 1963 (and close in 1958)

Reggie was an instrumental cog in getting the Saints to the NFC championship in 2006. Reggie has broken records for RB receptions. Reggie make defenses and their coordinators account for him every play he's on the field. On the field Reggie is a difference maker.

Most importantly Reggie has put a face on the Saints franchise when the Saints most needed a face. Personally it drives me crazy how average Joes gravitate to the guy. But it is certainly what the Saints needed.

And finally Reggie has run the ball well at times when given the opportunity. The Giants game in 2006. Seattle in 2007.

But truthfully it limits the Saints offense to have Reggie as the feature back. It makes it easier to key on him.

All I ask of Reggie in the run game is to continue to work on getting positive yards when he touches the ball. Don't dance until you get past the LOS. Once he learns (and truly believes) that he's better off with one cut and go, then you'll see more positive results in his run game.

SFIAH

Well, you are off to a good start as PR guy. I agree with everthing you said.

winmill1 · 04-29-2008, 09:22 AM

This is the year. I still have the FAITH in Reggie. Best future RB duo in the league-Thomas-Bush.

04-28-2008, 09:23 PM	#11
RickyInKenner Registered Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 60	Re: texans take a swipe at reggie...... well....he is right. they ended up with a better player, as of right now. mario williams had a pro bowl season last season, for sure. in only his second season, thats pretty impressive. not just a pro bowl season, a GREAT pro bowl season. but i think reggie will live up to the hype. he isnt now though.
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CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: texans take a swipe at reggie...... haha walter payton is a different kind of runner....try comparing him to barry sanders...thats more of the kind of back he is....even tho i dont think those comparisons are fair....reggie is neither one of them

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RickyInKenner Registered Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 60	Re: texans take a swipe at reggie...... Originally Posted by jeanpierre Reggie spends to much time with Kardishian, making him soft, well anyways Michael Westbrook took a few years to get the rhythm of the NFL game, so I say this year the Real Reggie Bush, Come On Down to the Poydras EndZone... michael? u mean brian? if so, i think so too since it took westbrook like 3 yers to become as great as he is today
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Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: texans take a swipe at reggie...... We need to stop here and think about this. Everyone gets hung up on Reggie's rushing yards, as in yards gained after hand offs. However, Mr. Shanahan is conveniently omitting Reggie's passing yards. He is also conveniently omitting that Reggie's passing yards are about 95% yards after the catch, and that the overwhelming majority of passes Reggie catches are screen passes behind the line of scrimmage. If the hangup is numbers, well, in 2 years Reggie has 1,146+ rushing yards and 1159 receiving yards, which is pretty good on itself, but then he isn't the only one that get fed the ball, since Payton's offense distributes it well to other players. As for Mario Williams, congrats on his 14 sacks last year. Unfortunately for the Texans, that accounted for 25% of Mario's total tackles for 2007, both solo and assisted.
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04-29-2008, 08:03 AM	#18
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: texans take a swipe at reggie...... Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint Well I can tell you right now, Reggie is gonna shut a lot of people up this year. This is going to be his year to shine. Mark my words. I guess I'm going to have to be Reggie's PR guy. Reggie's hype was supposed to be that dude can take 15 carries a game from the backfield and get 1500 yds/year carrying the football. Only one player in NFL history has gotten over 1500 yards with a 6.25 YPC average over the course of a year (which is required if you're only going to have 250 carries). That was Jim Brown in 1963 (and close in 1958) Reggie was an instrumental cog in getting the Saints to the NFC championship in 2006. Reggie has broken records for RB receptions. Reggie make defenses and their coordinators account for him every play he's on the field. On the field Reggie is a difference maker. Most importantly Reggie has put a face on the Saints franchise when the Saints most needed a face. Personally it drives me crazy how average Joes gravitate to the guy. But it is certainly what the Saints needed. And finally Reggie has run the ball well at times when given the opportunity. The Giants game in 2006. Seattle in 2007. But truthfully it limits the Saints offense to have Reggie as the feature back. It makes it easier to key on him. All I ask of Reggie in the run game is to continue to work on getting positive yards when he touches the ball. Don't dance until you get past the LOS. Once he learns (and truly believes) that he's better off with one cut and go, then you'll see more positive results in his run game. SFIAH
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Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: texans take a swipe at reggie...... Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I guess I'm going to have to be Reggie's PR guy. Reggie's hype was supposed to be that dude can take 15 carries a game from the backfield and get 1500 yds/year carrying the football. Only one player in NFL history has gotten over 1500 yards with a 6.25 YPC average over the course of a year (which is required if you're only going to have 250 carries). That was Jim Brown in 1963 (and close in 1958) Reggie was an instrumental cog in getting the Saints to the NFC championship in 2006. Reggie has broken records for RB receptions. Reggie make defenses and their coordinators account for him every play he's on the field. On the field Reggie is a difference maker. Most importantly Reggie has put a face on the Saints franchise when the Saints most needed a face. Personally it drives me crazy how average Joes gravitate to the guy. But it is certainly what the Saints needed. And finally Reggie has run the ball well at times when given the opportunity. The Giants game in 2006. Seattle in 2007. But truthfully it limits the Saints offense to have Reggie as the feature back. It makes it easier to key on him. All I ask of Reggie in the run game is to continue to work on getting positive yards when he touches the ball. Don't dance until you get past the LOS. Once he learns (and truly believes) that he's better off with one cut and go, then you'll see more positive results in his run game. SFIAH Well, you are off to a good start as PR guy. I agree with everthing you said.

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