Speed on D

thesaintsfan · 05-02-2008, 03:57 AM

Over the past couple of days since the draft I've been breaking down our projected defensive starting lineup. One thing that really jumps out to me is how much faster we are on paper. If you break it down by posistion we have upgraded the speed at quite a few posistions IMHO. If Vilma and Morgan start at mike and will respectively they will be faster than Sim and Shanle were last year. Let's say Ellis starts at under tackle, he'd probably be faster than Young. If Grant slides down on passing downs along side Ellis, then that's even more speed in the middle. I'm not sure if Gay will start or if he is faster than David but he might be faster. I really think that Usama will make a great leap foward this year and will improve the speed of nickle packages. Tracy Porter could be a super fast dime guy. I know that's alot of if's and guess work but can you see where I'm coming from on this one?

Also I think one thing that might be getting overlooked is the fact that this influx of speed will help our special teams. Usama and Tracy Porter could be fierce covering punts. Word is Tracy is a quality return guy and I'd love to see him handle the return duties so that Reggie doesn't have to take those extra hits.

If nothing else we'll have the best team we've ever had on Madden.

hagan714 · 05-02-2008, 04:05 PM

Speedy Gonzales:
Porter, Young
Arriba! Arriba! Andale! Andale!

CantonLegend · 05-02-2008, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by thesaintsfan

If nothing else we'll have the best team we've ever had on Madden.

lol....that makes me feel at home....i felt like i was the only one playing madden and making stupid madden references....at least i know im not alone

thesaintsfan · 05-02-2008, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

lol....that makes me feel at home....i felt like i was the only one playing madden and making stupid madden references....at least i know im not alone

Man I'll be playing Madden well into my 80s if I make it that far. Madden and NCAA are the only games I play though so I don't feel like a geek.

saintsrule · 05-02-2008, 07:14 PM

I hope they are faster, and are all over the field together.

zachsaints52 · 05-02-2008, 07:59 PM

I play Madden too, and Halo :P... But thats one thing I hated was always pausing to put usama in cause he was the only CB with speed over 90. Teams would always try to go deep on me.

MatthewT · 05-02-2008, 10:42 PM

Well, I have not jumped on that Madden bandwagon yet, but the game does look fun... LOL.

Something I would love to see, but know it will never happen, is some type of published test results for all current players, the way rookie players are measured at the combine and personal workouts for scouts. Take a guy like Deuce. We all know his 40 time is slower than what it was when he was a rookie, but what is it now? What type of 40 speed does David Patten have at this time? Now those are the type of things I would be very interested in. Wouldn't you all like to know what Jon Vilma, Randal Gay, Jason David, and the rest can run now? I know it really doesn't matter, you can either play football or you can't. But it would sure be interesting.

thesaintsfan · 05-03-2008, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Well, I have not jumped on that Madden bandwagon yet, but the game does look fun... LOL.

Something I would love to see, but know it will never happen, is some type of published test results for all current players, the way rookie players are measured at the combine and personal workouts for scouts. Take a guy like Deuce. We all know his 40 time is slower than what it was when he was a rookie, but what is it now? What type of 40 speed does David Patten have at this time? Now those are the type of things I would be very interested in. Wouldn't you all like to know what Jon Vilma, Randal Gay, Jason David, and the rest can run now? I know it really doesn't matter, you can either play football or you can't. But it would sure be interesting.

I've always wanted to see that myself. It's rare but sometimes a team will ask a veteran free agent to run a 40. I remember the Dolphins asked David Boston to run one and he ran like a 4.38. I wonder how much faster players get after they go to the league and start NFL training?

hagan714 · 05-03-2008, 05:59 PM

i like 40 times but I think game speed is more important.

thesaintsfan · 05-03-2008, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

i like 40 times but I think game speed is more important.

I think the first 10 yards of the 40 show how fast a guy will be on the field. Who is the fastest "game speed" guy in the league?

05-02-2008, 03:57 AM	#1
thesaintsfan The Real Deal Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 174	Speed on D Over the past couple of days since the draft I've been breaking down our projected defensive starting lineup. One thing that really jumps out to me is how much faster we are on paper. If you break it down by posistion we have upgraded the speed at quite a few posistions IMHO. If Vilma and Morgan start at mike and will respectively they will be faster than Sim and Shanle were last year. Let's say Ellis starts at under tackle, he'd probably be faster than Young. If Grant slides down on passing downs along side Ellis, then that's even more speed in the middle. I'm not sure if Gay will start or if he is faster than David but he might be faster. I really think that Usama will make a great leap foward this year and will improve the speed of nickle packages. Tracy Porter could be a super fast dime guy. I know that's alot of if's and guess work but can you see where I'm coming from on this one? Also I think one thing that might be getting overlooked is the fact that this influx of speed will help our special teams. Usama and Tracy Porter could be fierce covering punts. Word is Tracy is a quality return guy and I'd love to see him handle the return duties so that Reggie doesn't have to take those extra hits. If nothing else we'll have the best team we've ever had on Madden.
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05-02-2008, 04:05 PM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Speed on D Speedy Gonzales: Porter, Young Arriba! Arriba! Andale! Andale!

05-02-2008, 05:02 PM	#3
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Speed on D Originally Posted by thesaintsfan If nothing else we'll have the best team we've ever had on Madden. lol....that makes me feel at home....i felt like i was the only one playing madden and making stupid madden references....at least i know im not alone

05-02-2008, 05:24 PM	#4
thesaintsfan The Real Deal Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 174	Re: Speed on D Originally Posted by CantonLegend lol....that makes me feel at home....i felt like i was the only one playing madden and making stupid madden references....at least i know im not alone Man I'll be playing Madden well into my 80s if I make it that far. Madden and NCAA are the only games I play though so I don't feel like a geek.

05-02-2008, 07:14 PM	#5
saintsrule 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 657	Re: Speed on D I hope they are faster, and are all over the field together.
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05-02-2008, 07:59 PM	#6
zachsaints52 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Abingdon, Virginia Posts: 522	Re: Speed on D I play Madden too, and Halo :P... But thats one thing I hated was always pausing to put usama in cause he was the only CB with speed over 90. Teams would always try to go deep on me.

05-02-2008, 10:42 PM	#7
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Speed on D Well, I have not jumped on that Madden bandwagon yet, but the game does look fun... LOL. Something I would love to see, but know it will never happen, is some type of published test results for all current players, the way rookie players are measured at the combine and personal workouts for scouts. Take a guy like Deuce. We all know his 40 time is slower than what it was when he was a rookie, but what is it now? What type of 40 speed does David Patten have at this time? Now those are the type of things I would be very interested in. Wouldn't you all like to know what Jon Vilma, Randal Gay, Jason David, and the rest can run now? I know it really doesn't matter, you can either play football or you can't. But it would sure be interesting.

05-03-2008, 05:39 PM	#8
thesaintsfan The Real Deal Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 174	Re: Speed on D Originally Posted by MatthewT Well, I have not jumped on that Madden bandwagon yet, but the game does look fun... LOL. Something I would love to see, but know it will never happen, is some type of published test results for all current players, the way rookie players are measured at the combine and personal workouts for scouts. Take a guy like Deuce. We all know his 40 time is slower than what it was when he was a rookie, but what is it now? What type of 40 speed does David Patten have at this time? Now those are the type of things I would be very interested in. Wouldn't you all like to know what Jon Vilma, Randal Gay, Jason David, and the rest can run now? I know it really doesn't matter, you can either play football or you can't. But it would sure be interesting. I've always wanted to see that myself. It's rare but sometimes a team will ask a veteran free agent to run a 40. I remember the Dolphins asked David Boston to run one and he ran like a 4.38. I wonder how much faster players get after they go to the league and start NFL training?

05-03-2008, 05:59 PM	#9
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Speed on D i like 40 times but I think game speed is more important.

05-03-2008, 10:07 PM	#10
thesaintsfan The Real Deal Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 174	Re: Speed on D Originally Posted by hagan714 i like 40 times but I think game speed is more important. I think the first 10 yards of the 40 show how fast a guy will be on the field. Who is the fastest "game speed" guy in the league?