Best Saints Running Back

CantonLegend · 09-29-2009, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Bell was a stud in 2006?

As for the rest of it... been there done that.

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Don't waste too much time on that.. the issue is, on another thread, Canton declared PT was no Matt Forte, how PT was average at best, and wouldn't even start on any NFC North team. I had to show him the error in his ways

Now, after a game where PT had the flu, a tweaked knee, had to take IVs for dehydration, the passing game wasn't effective, he comes in on the second half and in 2 quarters puts up 120+ yards rushing and 2 TDs, the only thing Canton can say is "PT played well".

what do you want me to say? hes god and we should all bow? i said he played well.....he had a good half....im not going to crown him as our lord and savior but he did play well

Originally Posted by D_it_up2

Some people will just never get it. I'm still trying to figure out how Bell was a stud in '06. He had one game of over 100 yards that year, played the majority of the year behind an offensive line that was notorious for being excellent under Shanahan and only averaged 4.3 YPC, and scored less TD's in 15 games than Pierre scored last year in 9 games. Pierre also had 30 less carries last year compared to Bell in '06. Tatum Bell was ahead of him on the depth chart. Where is Tatum Bell now? Mike Bell played great in preseason. I give him that. However, Payton said himself that PT was the starter going into the season. The only reason Bell got the opportunity was because of PT's knee. I ask again. Does PT lose the job because of injury? If this is the case and Bell "earned" the starting job over PT, then shouldn't the same apply here? Shouldn't Bell lose his "starting" spot that he so greatly "earned" since he hurt his knee? Do your homework, Canton, because you are failing miserably to prove your point.

like i said before....bell won the job from PT.......PT didnt lose it....ive said this at least 5 times already......PT should have the same opportunity now that bell is injured....and for all we know, PT may earn it back

do my homework? mike shanahan is known for putting together a good running game.....you are saying that tatum bell started in front of mike bell so hes obviously better right? isnt that my argument for bell being better than PT but you are saying my argument doesnt make sense and yours does.

you are comparing numbers of a running back on a primarily running team to a running back on the most prolific offense in NFL history and you think comparing touchdowns is fair? thats fine tho

A few more things and I'll be done schooling you.

What in the heck gives you the idea that the Bills D didn't want to play in the 2nd half? They were down THREE POINTS? Seriously, Canton? I actually laughed out loud at that comment, because of how asanine it was. I won't even continue on that comment.

you dont have to believe me......watch the game...it was very obvious to me that the bills defense that we played in the 4th qtr was very different from the team we played the rest of the game.....i know im stupid and blind and dont "do my homework" so i cant be right about that.....i'll go watch it again just to make sure

Secondly, it wasn't ME who said he had an IV. It was THE FRIGGEN HEAD COACH!!! Did you watch the clip? I just repeated what SEAN PAYTON said. Again, I will not elaborate anymore on your comment about this, because it isn't worth wasting anymore breath over.

i wasnt disagreeing with the statement brother....i just said it was the first ive heard of it....give it a rest

How can you NOT credit a guy for playing sick? You never did. All you said in another post is that "he played well". That is a huge understatment. He was given the rock and he shined. If Mike Bell had done the same thing Pierre did in the 2nd half against a "tired, worn down team", you would be shining his jock for him.

man you got me pegged right down the the correct brand of jock cleaner and everything....you have no idea how i feel about how PT played......i said he played well....what else should i have said?

maybe 1 day i will be as good a poster as you 3.....only time will tell......but heres to wishful thinking

having a different opinion doesnt make me wrong.....it just means we disagree on things...thinkin one player is better than another is not a fact, its an opinion no matter how you swing it

you are not right and i am not wrong

papz · 09-29-2009, 06:42 PM

So... umm...

Bell was a stud in 2006?

CantonLegend · 09-29-2009, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by papz

So... umm...

Bell was a stud in 2006?

yep

Tobias-Reiper · 09-30-2009, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

like i said before....bell won the job from PT.......PT didnt lose it....ive said this at least 5 times already......PT should have the same opportunity now that bell is injured....and for all we know, PT may earn it back

Dude... you are funny...
First, in order for someone to win something, someone else has to lose it... Second, Bell didn't win anything. PT had an injury and was inactive for 2 games. That is why Bell started the first 2 games. Had PT been healthy, he would've been on the field against Detroit and Philly.

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

at least quote me correctly....i said he wouldnt start on the majority of teams in the entire NFL

maybe lions or bengals but kevin smith and cedric benson are pretty solid

now you are just being childish.

There's this dish called crow. Try it sometime. It'll make you a better person.

CantonLegend · 09-30-2009, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Dude... you are funny...
First, in order for someone to win something, someone else has to lose it... Second, Bell didn't win anything. PT had an injury and was inactive for 2 games. That is why Bell started the first 2 games. Had PT been healthy, he would've been on the field against Detroit and Philly.

no way....i figured he just wasnt good enough to play.....im not as stupid as you think.....i know why PT didnt play.....i know why bell got the start

but that doesnt mean that bell couldnt have earned the spot.....PT didnt get a chance to defend his spot(title) and when a boxer cant defend his title he has to give it up to an interim champ......bell is currently the interim champ until PT proves he deserves it back

D_it_up · 09-30-2009, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

no way....i figured he just wasnt good enough to play.....im not as stupid as you think.....i know why PT didnt play.....i know why bell got the start

but that doesnt mean that bell couldnt have earned the spot.....PT didnt get a chance to defend his spot(title) and when a boxer cant defend his title he has to give it up to an interim champ......bell is currently the interim champ until PT proves he deserves it back

Looks like the interim champ (Bell) couldn't defend his title, and PT earned it back...in a huge way.

CantonLegend · 09-30-2009, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by D_it_up2

Looks like the interim champ (Bell) couldn't defend his title, and PT earned it back...in a huge way.

perhaps.....but 14 carries is hardly enough to be labeled a starter......now the coaching staff may feel thats enough when bell returns but for now thats still up in the air

CantonLegend · 09-30-2009, 02:14 PM

D it up

the more you post....the happier i get

D_it_up · 09-30-2009, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

D it up

the more you post....the happier i get

Why? Do you like the taste of crow? I'll send you some Tony Chachere's to spice it up a little for ya.

DeadmaN · 09-30-2009, 02:36 PM

CantonLegend

That video had me laughing so hard I had tears in my eyes
and here I was depressed about getting divorced a 2nd time and leave it up to you guys to cheer me up

but seriously
Both bell and PT play hard. And no one can take anything away from either of them.
I think are both equally effective in there own way and personally I'm glad both are playing for us.
I would like to see the two of them rotated in games like Denver does with there backs

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09-29-2009, 05:14 PM	#1
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Best Saints Running Back Originally Posted by papz Bell was a stud in 2006? As for the rest of it... been there done that. Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Don't waste too much time on that.. the issue is, on another thread, Canton declared PT was no Matt Forte, how PT was average at best, and wouldn't even start on any NFC North team. I had to show him the error in his ways Now, after a game where PT had the flu, a tweaked knee, had to take IVs for dehydration, the passing game wasn't effective, he comes in on the second half and in 2 quarters puts up 120+ yards rushing and 2 TDs, the only thing Canton can say is "PT played well". what do you want me to say? hes god and we should all bow? i said he played well.....he had a good half....im not going to crown him as our lord and savior but he did play well Originally Posted by D_it_up2 Some people will just never get it. I'm still trying to figure out how Bell was a stud in '06. He had one game of over 100 yards that year, played the majority of the year behind an offensive line that was notorious for being excellent under Shanahan and only averaged 4.3 YPC, and scored less TD's in 15 games than Pierre scored last year in 9 games. Pierre also had 30 less carries last year compared to Bell in '06. Tatum Bell was ahead of him on the depth chart. Where is Tatum Bell now? Mike Bell played great in preseason. I give him that. However, Payton said himself that PT was the starter going into the season. The only reason Bell got the opportunity was because of PT's knee. I ask again. Does PT lose the job because of injury? If this is the case and Bell "earned" the starting job over PT, then shouldn't the same apply here? Shouldn't Bell lose his "starting" spot that he so greatly "earned" since he hurt his knee? Do your homework, Canton, because you are failing miserably to prove your point. like i said before....bell won the job from PT.......PT didnt lose it....ive said this at least 5 times already......PT should have the same opportunity now that bell is injured....and for all we know, PT may earn it back do my homework? mike shanahan is known for putting together a good running game.....you are saying that tatum bell started in front of mike bell so hes obviously better right? isnt that my argument for bell being better than PT but you are saying my argument doesnt make sense and yours does. you are comparing numbers of a running back on a primarily running team to a running back on the most prolific offense in NFL history and you think comparing touchdowns is fair? thats fine tho A few more things and I'll be done schooling you. What in the heck gives you the idea that the Bills D didn't want to play in the 2nd half? They were down THREE POINTS? Seriously, Canton? I actually laughed out loud at that comment, because of how asanine it was. I won't even continue on that comment. you dont have to believe me......watch the game...it was very obvious to me that the bills defense that we played in the 4th qtr was very different from the team we played the rest of the game.....i know im stupid and blind and dont "do my homework" so i cant be right about that.....i'll go watch it again just to make sure Secondly, it wasn't ME who said he had an IV. It was THE FRIGGEN HEAD COACH!!! Did you watch the clip? I just repeated what SEAN PAYTON said. Again, I will not elaborate anymore on your comment about this, because it isn't worth wasting anymore breath over. i wasnt disagreeing with the statement brother....i just said it was the first ive heard of it....give it a rest How can you NOT credit a guy for playing sick? You never did. All you said in another post is that "he played well". That is a huge understatment. He was given the rock and he shined. If Mike Bell had done the same thing Pierre did in the 2nd half against a "tired, worn down team", you would be shining his jock for him. man you got me pegged right down the the correct brand of jock cleaner and everything....you have no idea how i feel about how PT played......i said he played well....what else should i have said? maybe 1 day i will be as good a poster as you 3.....only time will tell......but heres to wishful thinking having a different opinion doesnt make me wrong.....it just means we disagree on things...thinkin one player is better than another is not a fact, its an opinion no matter how you swing it you are not right and i am not wrong
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

09-29-2009, 06:42 PM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: Best Saints Running Back So... umm... Bell was a stud in 2006?

09-29-2009, 06:47 PM	#3
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Best Saints Running Back Originally Posted by papz So... umm... Bell was a stud in 2006? yep

09-30-2009, 06:51 AM	#4
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Best Saints Running Back Originally Posted by CantonLegend like i said before....bell won the job from PT.......PT didnt lose it....ive said this at least 5 times already......PT should have the same opportunity now that bell is injured....and for all we know, PT may earn it back Dude... you are funny... First, in order for someone to win something, someone else has to lose it... Second, Bell didn't win anything. PT had an injury and was inactive for 2 games. That is why Bell started the first 2 games. Had PT been healthy, he would've been on the field against Detroit and Philly. Originally Posted by CantonLegend at least quote me correctly....i said he wouldnt start on the majority of teams in the entire NFL maybe lions or bengals but kevin smith and cedric benson are pretty solid now you are just being childish. There's this dish called crow. Try it sometime. It'll make you a better person.

09-30-2009, 09:45 AM	#5
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Best Saints Running Back Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Dude... you are funny... First, in order for someone to win something, someone else has to lose it... Second, Bell didn't win anything. PT had an injury and was inactive for 2 games. That is why Bell started the first 2 games. Had PT been healthy, he would've been on the field against Detroit and Philly. no way....i figured he just wasnt good enough to play.....im not as stupid as you think.....i know why PT didnt play.....i know why bell got the start but that doesnt mean that bell couldnt have earned the spot.....PT didnt get a chance to defend his spot(title) and when a boxer cant defend his title he has to give it up to an interim champ......bell is currently the interim champ until PT proves he deserves it back

09-30-2009, 02:10 PM	#6
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Best Saints Running Back Originally Posted by CantonLegend no way....i figured he just wasnt good enough to play.....im not as stupid as you think.....i know why PT didnt play.....i know why bell got the start but that doesnt mean that bell couldnt have earned the spot.....PT didnt get a chance to defend his spot(title) and when a boxer cant defend his title he has to give it up to an interim champ......bell is currently the interim champ until PT proves he deserves it back Looks like the interim champ (Bell) couldn't defend his title, and PT earned it back...in a huge way.

09-30-2009, 02:14 PM	#7
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Best Saints Running Back Originally Posted by D_it_up2 Looks like the interim champ (Bell) couldn't defend his title, and PT earned it back...in a huge way. perhaps.....but 14 carries is hardly enough to be labeled a starter......now the coaching staff may feel thats enough when bell returns but for now thats still up in the air

09-30-2009, 02:14 PM	#8
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Best Saints Running Back D it up the more you post....the happier i get

09-30-2009, 02:21 PM	#9
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Best Saints Running Back Originally Posted by CantonLegend D it up the more you post....the happier i get Why? Do you like the taste of crow? I'll send you some Tony Chachere's to spice it up a little for ya.

09-30-2009, 02:36 PM	#10
DeadmaN Saints Junky Join Date: May 2007 Location: Metairie Originally now a Houston transplant Posts: 672	Re: Best Saints Running Back CantonLegend That video had me laughing so hard I had tears in my eyes and here I was depressed about getting divorced a 2nd time and leave it up to you guys to cheer me up but seriously Both bell and PT play hard. And no one can take anything away from either of them. I think are both equally effective in there own way and personally I'm glad both are playing for us. I would like to see the two of them rotated in games like Denver does with there backs